Anyone Out There Brewing Neem?

[IsaanAussie]

Quick check to ask if anyone is making up neem oil at the moment or has done in the past? Love to hear from you if you have. Thought I would give it a shot this year.

Isaan Aussie

[soidog2]

Just made some, going to add lemon grass; ready to go.

best

[IsaanAussie]

Just made some, going to add lemon grass; ready to go.

best

Can I impose and ask for process details? Leaves or berries, or both?

Isaan Aussie

[soidog2]

Just made some, going to add lemon grass; ready to go.

best

Can I impose and ask for process details? Leaves or berries, or both?

Isaan Aussie

We follow grandma's recipe, impractical for large areas but perfect for the garden.

If you have a 200L plastic barrel, fill it up about a third with freshly chopped up small branches, leaves & berries.

To increase efficiency, if you have lemon grass, chop up some too.

Fill up with water, stir it up good everyday for at least three days; the water will get a little cloudy.

Strain it in your sprayer and you're ready to go.

Refill water and replace leaves as you use it. Not perfect but should give you edible really organic vegetables.

Now, if I could only find something that works on the fruit fly !!

Best

[WatersEdge]

I know where there are 200 big trees available for steady harvest of leaf all year, and seed in May.

Private property planted for this purpose originally, before the present owner purchased the farm.

Should there be a market, I can arrange the raw materials.

In the earlier discussion of this topic,

drtreelove suggests that only 20% of the foliage be taken...that still produces a lot of potential weight.

The seed comes ripe in April or May, soon possibly even ready now.

You have to pick up the seeds immediately after they fall, because they evidently go bad quickly.

Edited April 10, 2011 by WatersEdge

[drtreelove]

You can brew leaves and will get some limited results, but to have really effective material, you need the refined oil from the neem seed. One of the largest manufacturers in the world is this company in India.

http://fortunebiotech.com/

They don't have a distributor in Thailand and I was thinking about taking it on. But now I'm back in California and have easy access to manufactured products like the highly popular and very effective 'Azatrol'.

http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/Azatrol-SL.pdf

http://www.neemfoundation.org/

[soidog2]

You can brew leaves and will get some limited results, but to have really effective material, you need the refined oil from the neem seed. One of the largest manufacturers in the world is this company in India.

http://fortunebiotech.com/

They don't have a distributor in Thailand and I was thinking about taking it on. But now I'm back in California and have easy access to manufactured products like the highly popular and very effective 'Azatrol'.

http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/Azatrol-SL.pdf

http://www.neemfoundation.org/

I do have some sources for refined Neem oil but it's kind of expensive B 2000+ per liter.

That works out to about 60 baht per week per use per 20 liters.

I was wondering if you can elaborate on the added benefits of refined neem oil vs leaf brew.

Thank you in advance, hope all is well for you.

I see you are back in California.

Edited April 12, 2011 by soidog2

[drtreelove]

You can brew leaves and will get some limited results, but to have really effective material, you need the refined oil from the neem seed. One of the largest manufacturers in the world is this company in India.

http://fortunebiotech.com/

They don't have a distributor in Thailand and I was thinking about taking it on. But now I'm back in California and have easy access to manufactured products like the highly popular and very effective 'Azatrol'.

http://www.pbigordon.../Azatrol-SL.pdf

http://www.neemfoundation.org/

I do have some sources for refined Neem oil but it's kind of expensive B 2000+ per liter.

That works out to about 60 baht per week per use per 20 liters.

I was wondering if you can elaborate on the added benefits of refined neem oil vs leaf brew.

Thank you in advance, hope all is well for you.

I see you are back in California.

My comment was based on quite limited personal experience and reports from others. I'm no authority and I haven't been able to find an in depth discussion. Searches for neem info produces a lot of advertisements to sort out. Some say the refined oil extract products doesn't preserve all the goodies and they prefer the pure cold pressed oil mixed with insecticidal soap, others say the azadirachtin ingredient is all that matters and the properly refined product is more concentrated and effective. Neem leaf seems to be used primarily for the medicinal products and neem seed preferred for ag uses. I did find a description of small scale oil extraction that described pounding the seeds in a mortar and pestel and then soaking and floating off the oil and collecting it from the top of the water.

http://www.neemoilextract.com/methods-of-extraction.html

http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-oil-spray.html

[soidog2]

You can brew leaves and will get some limited results, but to have really effective material, you need the refined oil from the neem seed. One of the largest manufacturers in the world is this company in India.

http://fortunebiotech.com/

They don't have a distributor in Thailand and I was thinking about taking it on. But now I'm back in California and have easy access to manufactured products like the highly popular and very effective 'Azatrol'.

http://www.pbigordon.../Azatrol-SL.pdf

http://www.neemfoundation.org/

I do have some sources for refined Neem oil but it's kind of expensive B 2000+ per liter.

That works out to about 60 baht per week per use per 20 liters.

I was wondering if you can elaborate on the added benefits of refined neem oil vs leaf brew.

Thank you in advance, hope all is well for you.

I see you are back in California.

My comment was based on quite limited personal experience and reports from others. I'm no authority and I haven't been able to find an in depth discussion. Searches for neem info produces a lot of advertisements to sort out. Some say the refined oil extract products doesn't preserve all the goodies and they prefer the pure cold pressed oil mixed with insecticidal soap, others say the azadirachtin ingredient is all that matters and the properly refined product is more concentrated and effective. Neem leaf seems to be used primarily for the medicinal products and neem seed preferred for ag uses. I did find a description of small scale oil extraction that described pounding the seeds in a mortar and pestel and then soaking and floating off the oil and collecting it from the top of the water.

http://www.neemoilextract.com/methods-of-extraction.html

http://www.discoverneem.com/neem-oil-spray.html

I went looking for Neem oil to spray the home vegetables garden.

Not that hard to find, bellow one of the better ones, premixed with insecticidal soap.

B 600 to 900 for this size. Apply 20 to 25 CC for 20 liters; it says you can add more soap.

[rice555]

Hello All, this an ad out of a Thai ag magazine, it is also the same co. I posted info on this co. on the

Pinned fairs/shows thread in 2009. Thaineem Co.

At the bottom R/H corner shows the pictures of the "neem teabag". Some of us find it easier to open a

bag or bottle and just add water.

Says it's sold at Lotus and Home Pro.

If my translation hardware is right, the picture on the bottle are 'before/after' use for leaf miners on citrus.

Won't kill all bugs, but good for aphids.

rice555

[Pond Life]

We've made a spray liquid from the leaves a few times when the bugs get greedy.

But my favorite use is to put the dry leaves in sealed containers with grains.

We have some 18 month old rice stored in blue plastic barrels with dry leaves on top.

No bugs at all.

We had some 6 month old rice in a sack, leaping with little white moths etc,

put it in a barrel with Neem leaves, 1 week later no bugs.

I've done the same with Wheat seeds, works the same.