Thailand Blacklisted By Saudi Arabia

[givenall]

Is it true that Saudi Arabia has black listed Thailand fortravel and has put a very harsh penalty for their citizens if they come here?And if so why?

[PattayaParent]

Something to do with a laod of jewels that went missing from a Saudi prince's place that turned up in Bangkok.

It happened about 20 years ago.

[fredob43]

Something to do with a laod of jewels that went missing from a Saudi prince's place that turned up in Bangkok.

It happened about 20 years ago.

must keep out of BKK dont want my jewels to go missing.

[surayu]

must keep out of BKK dont want my jewels to go missing.

[backsoon]

must keep out of BKK dont want my jewels to go missing.

You dont say! Nobody told me that Saudy Prince's jewels are missing...

[PattayaParent]

Something to do with a laod of jewels that went missing from a Saudi prince's place that turned up in Bangkok.

It happened about 20 years ago.

must keep out of BKK dont want my jewels to go missing.

They went missing from his place in Riyadh so you've nothing to worry about.

Edited June 1, 2011 by PattayaParent

[jalansanitwong]

Diplomatic immunity doesnt apply here in Thailand expecially if youre from saudi arabia. Three of their diplomats were whacked in BKK some years back over an incident involving selling stolen jewels .The list of Thai's involved is mind boggling . nuff said.

A thai would be very brave or stupid to travel to Saudi land.

[gennisis]

Diplomatic immunity doesnt apply here in Thailand expecially if youre from saudi arabia. Three of their diplomats were whacked in BKK some years back over an incident involving selling stolen jewels .The list of Thai's involved is mind boggling . nuff said.

A thai would be very brave or stupid to travel to Saudi land.

The story of the 'missing' Blue Diamond is very interesting..........Google it !!

[IMA_FARANG]

I have been coming to Thailand for long enough, so I know the facts.

I also spent 5 years working in Saudi Arabia.

First of all it is NOT Thailand who blocks the Saudis from coming here. In fact it is the Saudi authorities who often refuse a Saudi the right to go to Thailand. They do this by trying to prevent the Thai consulate in Saudi Arabia from issueng visas to Saudi citizens for travel to Thailand. There is no prohibition on Saudi citizens coming to Thailand here in Thailand.

Secondly, in Saudi Arabia there is an active "religious police" for the purpose of keeping Saudis from straying off the path of their own strict and orthadox intepretation of Isalam. That includes discourageing young Saudi males who want to go to Thailand for the "bars. booze, and loose women" scene.

Many Saudis who come to Thailand first get a visa to another Asian country...Singapore or Malaysia are favorites...and then make a "detour" and stop-over in Thailand during their journey. Saudis can also easily drive across the causeway to Bahrain...and get a visa from the Thai consulate there for Thailand.

Now, as to what happened:

A wealthy Saudi had some of the jewelry in his house stolen...it was a group of the foriegn servents from Asia he had hired who were the culprits. At least one of them was a Thai. All the thieves fled the country.

The Saudi who had his jewelry stolen managed to trace the Thai theif to Thailand. He had influence, and was able to get the Thai police to arrest the thief, and recover some of the jewelry.

While the thief was in jail, some of the recovered jewelry was "lost" while in the possesion of the police.Shortly afterward the wife of a high ranking Thai police officer was seen wearing what was claimed to be a necklace with some of the jewels from the stolen jewelry at a dinner party here in Thailand. She claimed that the necklace was purchased here in Bangkok. This may have been true, apparently the thieves had removed the stones from the jewelry and had them remounted here in Thailand. So the woman may have bought the necklace without knowing the source of the jewels. At any rate, this caused a big problem between the Thai police and the Saudi government. For a period the Saudi authorities did stop Saudis from coming to Thailand, but that ban was later recinded. Now the Saudis just try to discourage the Thai consulate from issueing visa to saudi citizens...as I mentioned above.

If I recall correctly, all this started in the 1980's...not sure exactly when.

And another point. Many Thai bargirls do not like and will actively try to avoid any Saudis that come into the bar where the girls are working. I saw this with my own eyes. I was in a bar, early in the afternoon, before there were many customers. A group of 3 Saudi males entered, sat down and ordered drinks. They made obvious attempts to try to attract a group of bargirls without a "customer". The bargirls would not accept a drink from the Saudis, would not talk to them, and turned thier backs..litterly... on the Saudis. The Saudis realized they weren't wanted in that bar, quickly finished their drinks. and left. As they were leaving one of the bargirls made a rude jesture at the departing Saudis...basically the Thai equivlent of "giving them the finger".

At the time I was talking to another bargirl who I knew and I saw the whole thing occur. Since I had once worked in Saudi Arabia, and wanting to express my then general opinion of the Saudis I had known, I bought the bargirls who had rejected them each a drink. I made sure the mamasan who served them the drinks let them know why I had bought then a drink also.

That was some years ago now, and my then active dislike for Saudis has now simply turned to a more mild preference to simply avoid ever talking to them.

[BlueSmurf]

Yes true the Saudi dictatorship dies not want its people to come hete..Me? I don't want to go there.I also know a Saudi who is a teacher in his home country and cannot smoke or drink there but cones hete to Thailand via another country to visit his little wife and chain smoke and drink himself into oblivion! He is actually quiet a nice guy but goes OTT while over here.

[jacknorman]

must keep out of BKK dont want my jewels to go missing.

You dont say! Nobody told me that Saudy Prince's jewels are missing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Diamond_Affair

[Debothai]

I have been coming to Thailand for long enough, so I know the facts.

I also spent 5 years working in Saudi Arabia.

First of all it is NOT Thailand who blocks the Saudis from coming here. In fact it is the Saudi authorities who often refuse a Saudi the right to go to Thailand. They do this by trying to prevent the Thai consulate in Saudi Arabia from issueng visas to Saudi citizens for travel to Thailand. There is no prohibition on Saudi citizens coming to Thailand here in Thailand.

Secondly, in Saudi Arabia there is an active "religious police" for the purpose of keeping Saudis from straying off the path of their own strict and orthadox intepretation of Isalam. That includes discourageing young Saudi males who want to go to Thailand for the "bars. booze, and loose women" scene.

Many Saudis who come to Thailand first get a visa to another Asian country...Singapore or Malaysia are favorites...and then make a "detour" and stop-over in Thailand during their journey. Saudis can also easily drive across the causeway to Bahrain...and get a visa from the Thai consulate there for Thailand.

Now, as to what happened:

A wealthy Saudi had some of the jewelry in his house stolen...it was a group of the foriegn servents from Asia he had hired who were the culprits. At least one of them was a Thai. All the thieves fled the country.

The Saudi who had his jewelry stolen managed to trace the Thai theif to Thailand. He had influence, and was able to get the Thai police to arrest the thief, and recover some of the jewelry.

While the thief was in jail, some of the recovered jewelry was "lost" while in the possesion of the police.Shortly afterward the wife of a high ranking Thai police officer was seen wearing what was claimed to be a necklace with some of the jewels from the stolen jewelry at a dinner party here in Thailand. She claimed that the necklace was purchased here in Bangkok. This may have been true, apparently the thieves had removed the stones from the jewelry and had them remounted here in Thailand. So the woman may have bought the necklace without knowing the source of the jewels. At any rate, this caused a big problem between the Thai police and the Saudi government. For a period the Saudi authorities did stop Saudis from coming to Thailand, but that ban was later recinded. Now the Saudis just try to discourage the Thai consulate from issueing visa to saudi citizens...as I mentioned above.

If I recall correctly, all this started in the 1980's...not sure exactly when.

And another point. Many Thai bargirls do not like and will actively try to avoid any Saudis that come into the bar where the girls are working. I saw this with my own eyes. I was in a bar, early in the afternoon, before there were many customers. A group of 3 Saudi males entered, sat down and ordered drinks. They made obvious attempts to try to attract a group of bargirls without a "customer". The bargirls would not accept a drink from the Saudis, would not talk to them, and turned thier backs..litterly... on the Saudis. The Saudis realized they weren't wanted in that bar, quickly finished their drinks. and left. As they were leaving one of the bargirls made a rude jesture at the departing Saudis...basically the Thai equivlent of "giving them the finger".

At the time I was talking to another bargirl who I knew and I saw the whole thing occur. Since I had once worked in Saudi Arabia, and wanting to express my then general opinion of the Saudis I had known, I bought the bargirls who had rejected them each a drink. I made sure the mamasan who served them the drinks let them know why I had bought then a drink also.

That was some years ago now, and my then active dislike for Saudis has now simply turned to a more mild preference to simply avoid ever talking to them.

Agree totally with you...(about your views on KSA), even though I still haven't had the misfortune of working there.

[Razzler1973]

You're not missing anything. I live in Dubai and nothing stops the Saudis and Kuwaitis coming here for a bit of whoring to Bahrain where they paid for the causeway, of course I am sure it's hurting the Saudis more than it's hurting Thailand

[Thongkorn]

must keep out of BKK dont want my jewels to go missing.

same could be said about some lady boys down walking street

[scotinsiam]

I have been coming to Thailand for long enough, so I know the facts.

I also spent 5 years working in Saudi Arabia.

First of all it is NOT Thailand who blocks the Saudis from coming here. In fact it is the Saudi authorities who often refuse a Saudi the right to go to Thailand. They do this by trying to prevent the Thai consulate in Saudi Arabia from issueng visas to Saudi citizens for travel to Thailand. There is no prohibition on Saudi citizens coming to Thailand here in Thailand.

Secondly, in Saudi Arabia there is an active "religious police" for the purpose of keeping Saudis from straying off the path of their own strict and orthadox intepretation of Isalam. That includes discourageing young Saudi males who want to go to Thailand for the "bars. booze, and loose women" scene.

Many Saudis who come to Thailand first get a visa to another Asian country...Singapore or Malaysia are favorites...and then make a "detour" and stop-over in Thailand during their journey. Saudis can also easily drive across the causeway to Bahrain...and get a visa from the Thai consulate there for Thailand.

Now, as to what happened:

A wealthy Saudi had some of the jewelry in his house stolen...it was a group of the foriegn servents from Asia he had hired who were the culprits. At least one of them was a Thai. All the thieves fled the country.

The Saudi who had his jewelry stolen managed to trace the Thai theif to Thailand. He had influence, and was able to get the Thai police to arrest the thief, and recover some of the jewelry.

While the thief was in jail, some of the recovered jewelry was "lost" while in the possesion of the police.Shortly afterward the wife of a high ranking Thai police officer was seen wearing what was claimed to be a necklace with some of the jewels from the stolen jewelry at a dinner party here in Thailand. She claimed that the necklace was purchased here in Bangkok. This may have been true, apparently the thieves had removed the stones from the jewelry and had them remounted here in Thailand. So the woman may have bought the necklace without knowing the source of the jewels. At any rate, this caused a big problem between the Thai police and the Saudi government. For a period the Saudi authorities did stop Saudis from coming to Thailand, but that ban was later recinded. Now the Saudis just try to discourage the Thai consulate from issueing visa to saudi citizens...as I mentioned above.

If I recall correctly, all this started in the 1980's...not sure exactly when.

And another point. Many Thai bargirls do not like and will actively try to avoid any Saudis that come into the bar where the girls are working. I saw this with my own eyes. I was in a bar, early in the afternoon, before there were many customers. A group of 3 Saudi males entered, sat down and ordered drinks. They made obvious attempts to try to attract a group of bargirls without a "customer". The bargirls would not accept a drink from the Saudis, would not talk to them, and turned thier backs..litterly... on the Saudis. The Saudis realized they weren't wanted in that bar, quickly finished their drinks. and left. As they were leaving one of the bargirls made a rude jesture at the departing Saudis...basically the Thai equivlent of "giving them the finger".

At the time I was talking to another bargirl who I knew and I saw the whole thing occur. Since I had once worked in Saudi Arabia, and wanting to express my then general opinion of the Saudis I had known, I bought the bargirls who had rejected them each a drink. I made sure the mamasan who served them the drinks let them know why I had bought then a drink also.

That was some years ago now, and my then active dislike for Saudis has now simply turned to a more mild preference to simply avoid ever talking to them.

I agree with you 100% and I share your dislike of Saudi's having worked with them there for some years - thankfully no more !

[toenail]

It is a GOOD THING that Thais are not allowed in Saudi; infact, they should not go to other rich Arab countries such as Kuwait to work. Why? Because most rich Kuwaitis and Saudis treat their workers like crap. First, when you go into the country to work, the company or family sponsoring you has your passport. If you run into mistreatment ( such as not receiving your pay; working without days off; or unsafe working conditions...or for a woman, rape...) there is no representative to help you. The "poorer" countries don't have the guts to protect their own citizens because of the importance of the income that is going into their country. (Look at the Philipines for an example). I lived in Saudi Arabia for a total of 12 years. I had a good life because I lived on a private compound for Western expats. I also was considered higher up on the social ladder than the workers with unskilled jobs. What bothered me was the mistreatment of the workers from other poor Arab countries and Asia (India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nepal...) . SAD SAD SAD The problem with the citizens of the rich Gulf countries is that they went from being desert people to all at once having the modern life in the cities. Because of the quick progress and not knowing what hard work is, the culture lacks an appreciation of hard work, and looks at themselves as superior to others. They can also be confused....being "holy" in their Islamic country racing to the mosque 5 times a day and condeming the non Muslims as infidels; meanwhile they'll come to Thailand and act like dogs.

[triffid]

Would the people who expressed a dislike for saudis care to explain, briefly, why they feel this way? I mean at the level of saudis visiting Thailand or in their country, not in regard to their country's social, legal or political character.

[PattayaParent]

Would the people who expressed a dislike for saudis care to explain, briefly, why they feel this way? I mean at the level of saudis visiting Thailand or in their country, not in regard to their country's social, legal or political character.

You really need to go to Saudi to understand the feelings of expats that have lived there.

[kropotkin]

I have been coming to Thailand for long enough, so I know the facts.

I also spent 5 years working in Saudi Arabia.

First of all it is NOT Thailand who blocks the Saudis from coming here. In fact it is the Saudi authorities who often refuse a Saudi the right to go to Thailand. They do this by trying to prevent the Thai consulate in Saudi Arabia from issueng visas to Saudi citizens for travel to Thailand. There is no prohibition on Saudi citizens coming to Thailand here in Thailand.

Secondly, in Saudi Arabia there is an active "religious police" for the purpose of keeping Saudis from straying off the path of their own strict and orthadox intepretation of Isalam. That includes discourageing young Saudi males who want to go to Thailand for the "bars. booze, and loose women" scene.

Many Saudis who come to Thailand first get a visa to another Asian country...Singapore or Malaysia are favorites...and then make a "detour" and stop-over in Thailand during their journey. Saudis can also easily drive across the causeway to Bahrain...and get a visa from the Thai consulate there for Thailand.

Now, as to what happened:

A wealthy Saudi had some of the jewelry in his house stolen...it was a group of the foriegn servents from Asia he had hired who were the culprits. At least one of them was a Thai. All the thieves fled the country.

The Saudi who had his jewelry stolen managed to trace the Thai theif to Thailand. He had influence, and was able to get the Thai police to arrest the thief, and recover some of the jewelry.

While the thief was in jail, some of the recovered jewelry was "lost" while in the possesion of the police.Shortly afterward the wife of a high ranking Thai police officer was seen wearing what was claimed to be a necklace with some of the jewels from the stolen jewelry at a dinner party here in Thailand. She claimed that the necklace was purchased here in Bangkok. This may have been true, apparently the thieves had removed the stones from the jewelry and had them remounted here in Thailand. So the woman may have bought the necklace without knowing the source of the jewels. At any rate, this caused a big problem between the Thai police and the Saudi government. For a period the Saudi authorities did stop Saudis from coming to Thailand, but that ban was later recinded. Now the Saudis just try to discourage the Thai consulate from issueing visa to saudi citizens...as I mentioned above.

If I recall correctly, all this started in the 1980's...not sure exactly when.

And another point. Many Thai bargirls do not like and will actively try to avoid any Saudis that come into the bar where the girls are working. I saw this with my own eyes. I was in a bar, early in the afternoon, before there were many customers. A group of 3 Saudi males entered, sat down and ordered drinks. They made obvious attempts to try to attract a group of bargirls without a "customer". The bargirls would not accept a drink from the Saudis, would not talk to them, and turned thier backs..litterly... on the Saudis. The Saudis realized they weren't wanted in that bar, quickly finished their drinks. and left. As they were leaving one of the bargirls made a rude jesture at the departing Saudis...basically the Thai equivlent of "giving them the finger".

At the time I was talking to another bargirl who I knew and I saw the whole thing occur. Since I had once worked in Saudi Arabia, and wanting to express my then general opinion of the Saudis I had known, I bought the bargirls who had rejected them each a drink. I made sure the mamasan who served them the drinks let them know why I had bought then a drink also.

That was some years ago now, and my then active dislike for Saudis has now simply turned to a more mild preference to simply avoid ever talking to them.

The full story would include gruesome murders....... Google!