Trouble With The Wifey

[F1fanatic]

Thai women, especially hookers are teh most jelous people you can meet.

:lol:

I learned that the hard way the first time I came to Thailand. I figured it a bar girl I had been with could go home with various custormers then I could take another girl from the same bar home with me when the first gal wasn't available. BROTHER! Was I ever WRONG! I was rather funny though, and I eventually wound up with both of them.

Yes, they thought you were incredibly funny so were both desperate to have sex with you .

Money had nothing to do with it at all.

Edit - I'm honestly not following you around - but you do come up with the most ridiculous posts!

Edited September 8, 2011 by F1fanatic

[IanForbes]

So your limit is if you know you won't get away with it you're v careful??

This is not a criticism as such by the way, as I'm the same .

BUT I object to you pretending you have 'a line' that cannot be crossed when its obvious your 'line' can be crossed by people who have the power to harm you!

Oh, no doubt that many people have the power step over the line to harm me. What they don't realize is I am a hunter with lots of patience and I WILL harm them in return... and enjoy doing it. I'll just pick my own time and place, and leave an escape route. I've done it before and can do it again. There is power in terrorism... as the USA has learned the hard way. I don't believe in the Marquis De Queensbury rules and fair fights. Only survivors win.

[F1fanatic]

So your limit is if you know you won't get away with it you're v careful??

This is not a criticism as such by the way, as I'm the same .

BUT I object to you pretending you have 'a line' that cannot be crossed when its obvious your 'line' can be crossed by people who have the power to harm you!

Oh, no doubt that many people have the power step over the line to harm me. What they don't realize is I am a hunter with lots of patience and I WILL harm them in return... and enjoy doing it. I'll just pick my own time and place, and leave an escape route. I've done it before and can do it again. There is power in terrorism... as the USA has learned the hard way. I don't believe in the Marquis De Queensbury rules and fair fights. Only survivors win.

Which is why you tolerate "the power tripping thugs in airport security and customs".

[IanForbes]

Thai women, especially hookers are teh most jelous people you can meet.

:lol:

I learned that the hard way the first time I came to Thailand. I figured it a bar girl I had been with could go home with various custormers then I could take another girl from the same bar home with me when the first gal wasn't available. BROTHER! Was I ever WRONG! I was rather funny though, and I eventually wound up with both of them.

Yes, they thought you were incredibly funny so were both desperate to have sex with you .

Money had nothing to do with it at all.

Edit - I'm honestly not following you around - but you do come up with the most ridiculous posts!

Nothing ridiculous about a true story, F1. Of course money had something to do with it. It always does. But it took a lot of explaining and apologizing to calm her jealous anger. I was real greenhorn in those days and didn't understand the system. I didn't realize that once a Thai hooker goes with a guy he sort of becomes her property... at least in the group she goes with. If a client takes out two different women from the same bar at different times then it causes problems. But, if the client takes both women out at the same time it is somehow okay. Like I said, it's a funny system.

[IanForbes]

Which is why you tolerate "the power tripping thugs in airport security and customs".

With them we have no choice. But, they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency. And, I do enjoy calling their supervisors over when I think they step out of line.

[MAJIC]

I think it's not only Thai but actually a very asian way of thinking. And if you think about it not very much different to what happen in the west during a divorce.

Basically, the wife sees as unavoidable the fact that her husband is going to have affairs, prostitutes, mia nois, ... So basically from day one the house, the savings are hers, as a security for her future and the future of her family (kids). If the husband leaves, he forfeits everything. And it's true in some cases he can be helped through the door.

But if you go through a divorce in the west, is there any big difference ?

Yes! you are sure to get your 50% of everything on Divorcing,

in Thailand it's not so clear cut?

[F1fanatic]

Thai women, especially hookers are teh most jelous people you can meet.

:lol:

I learned that the hard way the first time I came to Thailand. I figured it a bar girl I had been with could go home with various custormers then I could take another girl from the same bar home with me when the first gal wasn't available. BROTHER! Was I ever WRONG! I was rather funny though, and I eventually wound up with both of them.

Yes, they thought you were incredibly funny so were both desperate to have sex with you .

Money had nothing to do with it at all.

Edit - I'm honestly not following you around - but you do come up with the most ridiculous posts!

Nothing ridiculous about a true story, F1. Of course money had something to do with it. It always does. But it took a lot of explaining and apologizing to calm her jealous anger. I was real greenhorn in those days and didn't understand the system. I didn't realize that once a Thai hooker goes with a guy he sort of becomes her property... at least in the group she goes with. If a client takes out two different women from the same bar at different times then it causes problems. But, if the client takes both women out at the same time it is somehow okay. Like I said, it's a funny system.

But then again you could have just made it clear that you were not her property.

You obviously did this, which is why you were able to take someone else home.

[hotandhumid]

Ian, i always thought you were a peaceful easy goin fella but now your starting to remind me of this bloke......

I AM an easy going bloke, ozzie, but I do have limits. I'm a cold hearted bastard if I get pushed too far. That movie (Falling Down) is a good example of a man pushed too far. When someone steps over a certain line with me I change completely and turn icey cold and calculating. And at that point there is nothing that I won't do and get pleasure out of doing. I have to be very careful and control myself when I feel it coming. I REALLY have to control myself when dealing with the power tripping thugs in airport security and customs.

Cor, you sound really scary!

[F1fanatic]

Which is why you tolerate "the power tripping thugs in airport security and customs".

With them we have no choice. But, they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency. And, I do enjoy calling their supervisors over when I think they step out of line.

In other words, you basically let them get away with it.

I'm sure they're v worried though that "they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency".

[IanForbes]

Which is why you tolerate "the power tripping thugs in airport security and customs".

With them we have no choice. But, they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency. And, I do enjoy calling their supervisors over when I think they step out of line.

In other words, you basically let them get away with it.

I'm sure they're v worried though that "they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency".

Unfortunately, you can't kill them all. Some people are not dead because it's illegal to kill them. I usually just get pleasure out of thinking what a miserable soul the guy is and how lucky I am having the life I've lived and am still living. When he's my age he'll still be a miserable thug who nobody likes. He probably beats his wife and kids... if he has any and they will hate him for it. It usually goes with a gun and a badge.

[lovelaos]

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<br /><br />With them we have no choice. But, they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency. And, I do enjoy calling their supervisors over when I think they step out of line.<br />

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<br /><br />Unfortunately, you can't kill them all. Some people are not dead because it's illegal to kill them. I usually just get pleasure out of thinking what a miserable soul the guy is and how lucky I am having the life I've lived and am still living. When he's my age he'll still be a miserable thug who nobody likes. He probably beats his wife and kids... if he has any and they will hate him for it. It usually goes with a gun and a badge.<br />

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Can you two get a room?

[IanForbes]

Can you two get a room?

:lol:

F1 and I often banter with each other. I get a good laugh and I'll bet she does to.

[F1fanatic]

Can you two get a room?

:lol:

F1 and I often banter with each other. I get a good laugh and I'll bet she does to.

Exactly! TV can be boring but its always more interesting to argue with someone.

[sidjameson]

Just a point worth saying about the OP, yes remember that? lol

No guy buys a house in Thailand. He gives money to his wife, and she decides to buy a house. Nobody likes an Indian giver so why would a Thai women?

If you give some one a few million baht, thats a very nice thing to do, but why would you expect any of it back? Seems very strange!

[Mirth]

Welcome to Asia everyone! The continent where the husband's asset is the family's while the wife's asset is the wife's!

[Pacificperson]

Our money and her money.

[sbk]

Alright, I think this thread has had enough of the derogatory generalizations about all Thai people. So I will remind you of forum rules and leave a note that the next person to cross that line will be warned.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

7) Not to post slurs or degrading comments directed towards any group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation.

8) Not to post extremely negative views of Thailand or derogatory comments directed towards all Thais.

Hope this is clear enough.

[Livinginexile]

It IS her house!

Every last brick and blade of grass!

I have a friend in a similar situation. Bought land and built a house in HER name. Bought a new car in HER name. When she talks to other Thai's the property is always refered to as HER's

I havn't the heart to tell my friend (even if i did he would justify it in some way) but it is clear case of "pay me money and I will give you love".

But you know...at the end of the day....they are happy!

He's just a c*** struck idiot and she's a gold digging bitch!

Some would say (mainly poor rural Thai's) a marrage made in heaven!

Edited September 8, 2011 by Livinginexile

[ludditeman]

Although in our own countries, wives may still be able to take a hubby to the cleaners via the court systems, in Thailand Thai wives and their families have even more advantages over their farang husbands.

Thai ladies can't get anything away from you outside Thailand (unless you provided them with citizenship), and nothing from you through the Thai courts.

Ladies in our home countries can take almost anything away from us men easily, including future earnings and your passport.

Buy the car in your own name, rent a house, don't get married.

All potential problems solved, and you can just walk away at any time.

I think the Thai ladies are at a big disadvantage.

Edited September 8, 2011 by ludditeman

[ozzieovaseas]

It IS her house!

Every last brick and blade of grass!

I have a friend in a similar situation. Bought land and built a house in HER name. Bought a new car in HER name. When she talks to other Thai's the property is always refered to as HER's

I havn't the heart to tell my friend (even if i did he would justify it in some way) but it is clear case of "pay me money and I will give you love".

But you know...at the end of the day....they are happy!

He's just a c*** struck idiot and she's a gold digging bitch!

Some would say (mainly poor rural Thai's) a marrage made in heaven!

That does seem a pretty clear cut way of looking at things. Probably not a great deal of differance from the west in how we marry and then play to the roles that society expects of us.

Your post did strike a chord with me about looking at things from the other side though. I always find it amusing when guys on these forums claim " I bought my house" or " I bought my business" when in fact the letter of the law says it is not really their property at all, but their spouses.

Come to think of ot Living in Exile..werent you the guy that was posting about buying another farangs house out from under him, and getting it very cheap??

How is that going anyway? I suppose you would have to conceeed that that house is no more yours than it was the last fellows

[Latindancer]

Btw, woman all over the world sulk and blank their other halfs for days, do people really believe that ONLY Thai woman are like this?

True.....it's only the Isaan ones with hot tempers who are really objectionable. I pity their husbands. Luckily, my wife (Isaan) has a very sweet temper, and is a very reasonable person.

[ozzieovaseas]

Which is why you tolerate "the power tripping thugs in airport security and customs".

With them we have no choice. But, they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency. And, I do enjoy calling their supervisors over when I think they step out of line.

In other words, you basically let them get away with it.

I'm sure they're v worried though that "they certainly won't get any support from me in an emergency".

Unfortunately, you can't kill them all. Some people are not dead because it's illegal to kill them. I usually just get pleasure out of thinking what a miserable soul the guy is and how lucky I am having the life I've lived and am still living. When he's my age he'll still be a miserable thug who nobody likes. He probably beats his wife and kids... if he has any and they will hate him for it. It usually goes with a gun and a badge.

Ian, im thinking you could get some work in the..errr ..."making problems go away" business.But maybe best stick to the gigoloing and thaivisa while in LOS.

It might not pay as much, but looking on the bright side it seems like you might have gained at least 1 potential client from these pages

Edited September 8, 2011 by ozzieovaseas

[mca]

Ian, im thinking you could some work in the errr ..."making problems go away" business..But maybe best stick to the gigoloing and thaivisa while in LOS.

It might not pay as much, but looking on the bright side it seems like you might have gained at least 1 potential client from these pages

I don't think you're ian's type ozzie.

[ozzieovaseas]

Ian, im thinking you could some work in the errr ..."making problems go away" business..But maybe best stick to the gigoloing and thaivisa while in LOS.

It might not pay as much, but looking on the bright side it seems like you might have gained at least 1 potential client from these pages

I don't think you're ian's type ozzie.

and he is definately not my type either..to much of a brute for my liking

But you only have to wander back to half way down page 2 to see what i am talking about

[ozzieovaseas]

By the way, just to point out...I did not post the story of this guy in order for judgements to be made on the whole population of Thai women. We all know of the laws, but i do find it staggering to think that a guy (in this case) can provide a house and whatnot and then be showed very little respect directly after the fact. I mean from what he told me the guy often felt like he was an unwanted hinderance in his (well err..her) house.

Surely it would not hurt for the woman to refer to it as "our" house or maybe even (shock horror) thrown a tiny bit of praise in the form of ..."He is a good man, he buys house, and takes good care of me and his family"

More often than not i've heard tales about how the guy was treated like a king in the courtship but flung aside like a used ar$etowel after majour purchases have been made

Maybe on the positive side we should ask for contributions from Farangs who have been good providers and who are thoroughly appreciated for the sacrifices and contributions they've made... and who get some acknowledgement from thier partners every now and then.

It would be a nice thing to hear, but sadly you just dont seem to hear it voiced very often

[rgs2001uk]

Thai women, especially hookers are teh most jelous people you can meet.

:lol:

I learned that the hard way the first time I came to Thailand. I figured it a bar girl I had been with could go home with various custormers then I could take another girl from the same bar home with me when the first gal wasn't available. BROTHER! Was I ever WRONG! I was rather funny though, and I eventually wound up with both of them.

Yes, they thought you were incredibly funny so were both desperate to have sex with you .

Money had nothing to do with it at all.

Edit - I'm honestly not following you around - but you do come up with the most ridiculous posts!

Nothing ridiculous about a true story, F1. Of course money had something to do with it. It always does. But it took a lot of explaining and apologizing to calm her jealous anger. I was real greenhorn in those days and didn't understand the system.

... at least in the group she goes with. If a client takes out two different women from the same bar at different times then it causes problems. But, if the client takes both women out at the same time it is somehow okay. Like I said, it's a funny system.

&lt;deleted&gt; wheres your dignity and self respect, 'it took a lot of explaining and apologizing to calm her' this is a whore we are talking about.

I have been in Thai places with Thai male friends and I dont need to tell you what their reaction would have been if a stunt like that had been pulled.

'I didn't realize that once a Thai hooker goes with a guy he sort of becomes her property' may well happen in the cheap knocking shops you frequent but it certainly doesnt happen in the more up market establishments in Bkk.

[zzaa09]

Btw, woman all over the world sulk and blank their other halfs for days, do people really believe that ONLY Thai woman are like this?

True.....it's only the Isaan ones with hot tempers who are really objectionable. I pity their husbands. Luckily, my wife (Isaan) has a very sweet temper, and is a very reasonable person.

Yes, a rarity indeed!

[ozzieovaseas]

&lt;deleted&gt; wheres your dignity and self respect, 'it took a lot of explaining and apologizing to calm her' this is a whore we are talking about.

I have been in Thai places with Thai male friends and I dont need to tell you what their reaction would have been if a stunt like that had been pulled.

'I didn't realize that once a Thai hooker goes with a guy he sort of becomes her property' may well happen in the cheap knocking shops you frequent but it certainly doesnt happen in the more up market establishments in Bkk.

Im goin out on a limb here don't think Ian really believes the girl was jealous of loosing his affections..

Everyone knows the only reason these girls get jealous is because they think your (ie. their) money might go into another girls pocket

I think he might be having a little lend of us

Edited September 8, 2011 by ozzieovaseas

[Beetlejuice]

So your limit is if you know you won't get away with it you're v careful??

This is not a criticism as such by the way, as I'm the same .

BUT I object to you pretending you have 'a line' that cannot be crossed when its obvious your 'line' can be crossed by people who have the power to harm you!

Oh, no doubt that many people have the power step over the line to harm me. What they don't realize is I am a hunter with lots of patience and I WILL harm them in return... and enjoy doing it. I'll just pick my own time and place, and leave an escape route. I've done it before and can do it again. There is power in terrorism... as the USA has learned the hard way. I don't believe in the Marquis De Queensbury rules and fair fights. Only survivors win.

I’ve read all your previous posts on this thread and must say; that I think you are the bestest Thai visa member that has ever been and I agree with everything you say and will never disagree with you. NEVER.

And if in the future I do accidentally say anything that offends you, please keep in mind, that I have a money grasping partner, a poncing mother in law, buffaloes, dogs, cats, goldfish and kids, so have mercy.

[Livinginexile]

It IS her house!

Every last brick and blade of grass!

I have a friend in a similar situation. Bought land and built a house in HER name. Bought a new car in HER name. When she talks to other Thai's the property is always refered to as HER's

I havn't the heart to tell my friend (even if i did he would justify it in some way) but it is clear case of "pay me money and I will give you love".

But you know...at the end of the day....they are happy!

He's just a c*** struck idiot and she's a gold digging bitch!

Some would say (mainly poor rural Thai's) a marrage made in heaven!

That does seem a pretty clear cut way of looking at things. Probably not a great deal of differance from the west in how we marry and then play to the roles that society expects of us.

Your post did strike a chord with me about looking at things from the other side though. I always find it amusing when guys on these forums claim " I bought my house" or " I bought my business" when in fact the letter of the law says it is not really their property at all, but their spouses.

Come to think of ot Living in Exile..werent you the guy that was posting about buying another farangs house out from under him, and getting it very cheap??

How is that going anyway? I suppose you would have to conceeed that that house is no more yours than it was the last fellows

Yes We did, and it's in my wife's name.

BTW, there was more to it than "buying another farangs house out from under him".

We eventually got the full story from neigbours and other expats in the area. The guy was a complete prick that drove his wife to the brink of madness with drinking, whoreing and violence. He eventually disapeared so the ex was not lying, she just wanted to get out!

Anyway back to the subject....

ALL the property I have bought legally belongs to my wife, I guess I am luckier than most and she always refers to the properties as "ours".

But then again she's a women, and women are women the world over. It's ME I don't trust...not her