webfact Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Reds threaten to rally for Arisman's bail The Nation The red shirts in the North and Northeast will on Wednesday's evening travel from their red villages to visit remanded leader Arisman Pongruangrong and demand his release tomorrow. "Some 5,000 reds in the North and other 5,000 in the Northeast are planning to rally for Arisman," organiser Anont Saennan said. Anont is the Udon Thani red leader spearheading the set-up of 8,702 red villages in the North and Northeast. He said residents of red villages wanted to free all red shirts being held under remand. In the Arisman case, he said bail should be granted because Arisman did not flee to elude his criminal charges but to save his life. After the resumption of normalcy, Arisman and other red shirts reported themselves to the law enforcement authorities, he said. Arisman is being detained at Bangkok Remand Prison since December 7. His second bail application was rejected on Monday. -- The Nation 2011-12-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The only good thing about this is to be reminded, yet again, of what the red shirts stand for. And it clearly ain't "democracy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave9000 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 As Thaksin pulls the strings with increasing vigour, his minions will be reinvigorated with rebellious power. The storm is brewing yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patjem Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 These sheep remind me of the deluded bunch from Monty Python's 'Life of Brian'. "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 they love the guy who encouraged people to burn down bangkok. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgarfriendly Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 "do not wait for word from us, Just burn your city halls to the ground" Genius! Let Him Out!! Etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9XiJoWSSs Am i missing something? Edited December 21, 2011 by webfact video link fixed /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9XiJoWSSs Am i missing something? You're not missing a thing. My maid describes this guy Anont as a loose cannon and capable of doing anything. As for 10,000 of the red mob converging on Bangkok, ever wonder who is funding this i.e. bus tickets, hiring vans and trucks for transportation, food, ect. Most of these farmers that go are dirt poor and don't have the funds. At 1,000 Baht per person and that is a low estimate this means 1,000,000 Baht for this little trip. Edited December 21, 2011 by webfact Video link in quote fixed /Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Mob Rule - Democracy, Red Shirt style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 He should try the Nuremburg defence - " I was only following orders!" The court should then give a Nuremburg sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar52 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 It is my choice, but if it was with the approach of 5,000 I would differently not allow bail, and would probably arrest those that demand his release. Where is the logic, do these people just think that because a few people show up that is reason to release a criminal. 1. He should not be released, not because of that fact he is a flight risk; but because he broke his previous bail. How does logic work when you are on bail for an offense and told not to break your bail, then you incite riots, storm a hotel, Parliament, a hospitable, etc. I am really all for their thinking on Rule of Law....NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Where are the usual defenders of this mob. No one in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Where are the usual defenders of this mob. No one in sight. There is no defence, so they are understandably quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 was wondering what it meant when I heard young people talking to each other :not going for 300 Baht per day". Strange gatherings everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Where are the usual defenders of this mob. No one in sight. from a different thread: Babcock, on Today, 11:42 , said: The redshirts campaigned under the slogan " no double standards." The people want Law and Order and they want it equally applied. Where are the clowns....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcent Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) will this be CFR sponsored, like Egypt, Libya etc.? Saw a group of people (about 30), some of them on police bikes, but most where not from the area, yesterday evening in BLUE shirts. Kind of blue tones with whatever brand. Disguise? - or playing the color game when something goes wrong? Thaksin himself, since being ousted from power in a very real move to protect Thailand from foreign-funded sedition, has since been represented by US corporate-financier elites via their lobbying firms including, Kenneth Adelman of the Edelman PR firm (Freedom House,International Crisis Group, PNAC), James Baker of Baker Botts (CFR), Robert Blackwill ofBarbour Griffith & Rogers (CFR), Kobre & Kim, and currently Robert Amsterdam ofAmsterdam & Peroff (Chatham House). http://landdestroyer.../label/Thailand Edited December 21, 2011 by elcent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9XiJoWSSs Am i missing something? You're not missing a thing. My maid describes this guy Anont as a loose cannon and capable of doing anything. As for 10,000 of the red mob converging on Bangkok, ever wonder who is funding this i.e. bus tickets, hiring vans and trucks for transportation, food, ect. Most of these farmers that go are dirt poor and don't have the funds. At 1,000 Baht per person and that is a low estimate this means 1,000,000 Baht for this little trip. No Bus and food can be arranged very cheap. I guess the total incl. the 300 Baht fee might be 500 Baht+the fee for the "Manager". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdoom6996 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The only good thing about this is to be reminded, yet again, of what the red shirts stand for. And it clearly ain't "democracy" Here Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 In the Arisman case, he said bail should be granted because Arisman did not flee to elude his criminal charges but to save his life. So do him a favour and save his life once again by leaving him where he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janverbeem Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9XiJoWSSs Am i missing something? You're not missing a thing. My maid describes this guy Anont as a loose cannon and capable of doing anything. As for 10,000 of the red mob converging on Bangkok, ever wonder who is funding this i.e. bus tickets, hiring vans and trucks for transportation, food, ect. Most of these farmers that go are dirt poor and don't have the funds. At 1,000 Baht per person and that is a low estimate this means 1,000,000 Baht for this little trip. Lets see how many will turn up actually,I have already seen the million man march,the million liter blood spoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 The buzzword we hear all the time is reconciliation and yet this Anont wants to set up red shirt villages in Thailand? That'll really help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudaves2002 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 It is the time for boss to pay money again. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Cant beat a good rally, have not had one for while now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonableman Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Don't know why we need law courts and the rule of law in LOS at all, when we have such eminent groups of legal and administrative experts "advising" the government and judiciary on what's best for the other 65 million. Yawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Setting up red shirt villages, organising paid protests, attempting to circumvent the process of law while saying they want equal justice,(question is, equal for who?). They talk recincilliation while at the same time driving a demarcation wedge through the country using the 'us and them' thinking re. the red shirt villages. What will happen in this country? Will we see a progression from protests to more deadly civil unrest? I have not been here long enough to develop any colour affiliation, I enjoy being here with my wife and I love the people, I fear what lies ahead if these paid anarchists are not stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunterHunter Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I thought it was obvious to all... The Reds version of reconciliation is to destroy the opposition and intimidate the establishment. ... and they wont stop until they get it all their own way, or they burn the country to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeklong Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Reminds me of "Animal Farm", and this artist's "book cover" seems the most appropriate http://fc04.devianta..._AstroCrush.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 REDS MOVEMENT Red shirts to demand Arisman's release The Nation Red shirts in the North and Northeast will on Wednesday evening travel from their red villages to visit leader Arisman Pongruangrong in jail and demand his release from Bangkok Remand Prison tomorrow. "Some 5,000 reds in the North and other 5,000 in the Northeast are planning to rally for Arisman," organiser Anont Saennan said. Anont is the Udon Thani red leader who spearheaded the setting up of 8,702 red villages in the North and Northeast. He said residents of red villages want to free all red shirts being held under remand. In the Arisman case, he said bail should be granted because Arisman did not flee to elude his criminal charges but because he feared for his life. After the resumption of normalcy, Arisman and other red shirts reported to the law enforcement authorities, he said. Arisman has been detained at Bangkok Remand Prison since December 7 pending trial on charges related to terrorism in connection with last year’s political turmoil. He fled to Cambodia once the red-shirt rally at Ratchaprasong intersection was brought to an end on May 19 last year. His second bail application was rejected on Monday on grounds that he might flee again. His escape and the serious nature of the charges were two critical factors behind the rejection of his first request for bail, the court said. In his second plea for bail, Arisman told the court that he had to flee abroad and wait until this month to surrender because people had warned him of attempts on his life. Arisman vowed in court that he would not attempt to escape or lead any rallies again. -- The Nation 2011-12-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) In the Arisman case, he said bail should be granted because Arisman did not flee to elude his criminal charges but to save his life. If one overlooks for a moment the fact that if someone was truly out to get him, being locked away would surely be safer than roaming around without a home, i thought from the way he called for his underlings to put themselves on the line for the cause, he would be happy to stand up and be counted, whatever the risk. Isn't that what leaders do? What example does he set by running away like a coward? Edited December 21, 2011 by rixalex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 In the Arisman case, he said bail should be granted because Arisman did not flee to elude his criminal charges but to save his life. If one overlooks for a moment the fact that if someone was truly out to get him, being locked away would surely be safer than roaming around without a home, i thought from the way he called for his underlings to put themselves on the line for the cause, he would be happy to stand up and be counted, whatever the risk. Isn't that what leaders do? What example does he set by running away like a coward? I disagree. I think he dies in prison at the hands of someone sponsored by his own bretheren. To them, he's a liability only, at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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