Uk Benefits

[mucker1234]

Folks, is a Thai national with an ILE visa able to claim benefits such as job seekers (yes of course assuming they are looking for a a job) and housing benefit?

Cheers

[RAZZELL]

I believe it depends on whether there was an undertaking by the "sponsor"?

RAZZ

[7by7]

Restrictions on public funds apply to those subject to immigration control. Someone who has no time restriction on their stay in the UK, such as ILE or ILR, and so is not subject to immigration control is entitled to claim the full range of public funds.

Provided they meet the other requirements, of course.

[RAZZELL]

Restrictions on public funds apply to those subject to immigration control. Someone who has no time restriction on their stay in the UK, such as ILE or ILR, and so is not subject to immigration control is entitled to claim the full range of public funds.

Provided they meet the other requirements, of course.

I know it's not really relevant but I believe there are certain types of ILE granted to family or relations of refugees etc which have conditions placed on them.

Or I could be wrong

RAZZ

Edited January 2, 2012 by RAZZELL

[7by7]

As far as I am aware the restrictions on public funds only apply to those subject to immigration control.

However, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

[MAJIC]

As far as I am aware the restrictions on public funds only apply to those subject to immigration control.

However, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

Probably it would depend if her ILR had "No Recourse to Public Funds" written in it,or not,as I understand it.

Best to ask your wifes Thai Girlfriends,who already have ILR.

And yes it is correct, No Recourse Public Funds to those "subject to Immigration control" such as those on a two year Spousal Visa.

[mucker1234]

I believe it depends on whether there was an undertaking by the "sponsor"?

RAZZ

What is the sponsor was also unemployed?

[mucker1234]

Restrictions on public funds apply to those subject to immigration control. Someone who has no time restriction on their stay in the UK, such as ILE or ILR, and so is not subject to immigration control is entitled to claim the full range of public funds.

Provided they meet the other requirements, of course.

But would this go aginst the citizenship application if this person was a drain on public funds?

And can someone who has never really paid into the NI contrubitions get JSA?

[mucker1234]

As far as I am aware the restrictions on public funds only apply to those subject to immigration control.

However, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

Probably it would depend if her ILR had "No Recourse to Public Funds" written in it,or not,as I understand it.

Best to ask your wifes Thai Girlfriends,who already have ILR.

And yes it is correct, No Recourse Public Funds to those "subject to Immigration control" such as those on a two year Spousal Visa.

All of them work so they wouldnt know.....

So, an ILR or ILE can claim but a settlement visa holder cannot?

[MAJIC]

As far as I am aware the restrictions on public funds only apply to those subject to immigration control.

However, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

Probably it would depend if her ILR had "No Recourse to Public Funds" written in it,or not,as I understand it.

Best to ask your wifes Thai Girlfriends,who already have ILR.

And yes it is correct, No Recourse Public Funds to those "subject to Immigration control" such as those on a two year Spousal Visa.

All of them work so they wouldnt know.....

So, an ILR or ILE can claim but a settlement visa holder cannot?

A Settlement Visa Holder can't claim public funds,in her Passport is written on her Visa "No Recourse To Public Funds" The good news is she will be entitled to NHS care.

I can't comment with any definate accuracy,concerning ILR/ILE .

Edited January 2, 2012 by MAJIC

[kennkate]

Well I thought when you got ILR The restrictions were a thing of the past. So when my wife got her ILR. We went to the job centre to sign on.

She has not worked since she arrived in the UK, Doing her ESOL was more important.

Well yes she can sign on and get her stamp credited after she gets her visa restrictions lifted But NO job seekers allowance That is based on NI contributions or Income.

Nil contributions and household income is taken into account.

So unless all the household is unemployed You won't get anything. Its not much anyway.

BTW my wife did get a job same week that she went to the job centre. It is still better to get the stamp paid for the future.

[Eff1n2ret]

Persons with Indefinite Leave are still "subject to immigration control", i.e. they may still be refused entry if they are away from the UK for more than two years, and may be made subject of a Deportation Order, unlike British Citizens who have "Right of Abode".

But as far as I'm aware, once you attain Indefinite Leave the full bounty of the UK's benefit systems is available to you, if you qualify.

[7by7]

Persons with Indefinite Leave are still "subject to immigration control", i.e. they may still be refused entry if they are away from the UK for more than two years, and may be made subject of a Deportation Order, unlike British Citizens who have "Right of Abode".

I stand corrected on that point.

The main point is, though, that persons with indefinite leave are entitled to claim the same public funds as persons with right of abode. Claiming any will have no effect on any future naturalisation application.

Obviously, if they have not paid any, or sufficient, NI contributions then they will not receive contribution based benefits (pension excepted, see other topic), such as contribution based JSA, and their spouse/partner's income will be taken into account when assessing their entitlement to income based benefits, such as income based JSA.

One of the vagaries of the system is that applicants for indefinite leave must show that they can be adequately maintained and accommodated without recourse to public funds, but as soon as their IL has been granted they can claim any and all for which they qualify.

[ThaiVisaExpress]

The person would need to be in the UK ?

[7by7]

Depends on the benefit, but I believe that they would need to be in the UK when they make the initial claim, and for most remain in the UK to continue receiving it.

The obvious one which people can continue to receive if living outside the UK is the state pension.