473geo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 To pen the draft version of an article/proposal does not automatically exclude advice and input from others and render the result a personal plan We are talking about Chalerm here. I take it you have a clue who he is; an idea about his nature? As you wish, so when this draft finally appears I guess you guys will accept that there was no input from anybody promoting a little self interest... .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 To pen the draft version of an article/proposal does not automatically exclude advice and input from others and render the result a personal plan We are talking about Chalerm here. I take it you have a clue who he is; an idea about his nature? As you wish, so when this draft finally appears I guess you guys will accept that there was no input from anybody promoting a little self interest... .. The logic of the last sentence escapes me. If this draft appears we still need to read it to form an opinion. Still this draft is unlikely to appear as Dept. PM Chalerm still want to discuss things in it with some fellow Pheu Thai members, probably some selected on suitability as for the recent cabinet changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) To pen the draft version of an article/proposal does not automatically exclude advice and input from others and render the result a personal plan We are talking about Chalerm here. I take it you have a clue who he is; an idea about his nature? As you wish, so when this draft finally appears I guess you guys will accept that there was no input from anybody promoting a little self interest... .. The logic of the last sentence escapes me. If this draft appears we still need to read it to form an opinion. Still this draft is unlikely to appear as Dept. PM Chalerm still want to discuss things in it with some fellow Pheu Thai members, probably some selected on suitability as for the recent cabinet changes The logic is simple Rubl there are people here on the board who are prepared, indeed insist, this draft is all the personal work of Chalerm for reconcilliation, they appear to think he alone has constructed this draft......let us say the draft goes through without alteration........the usual bleat of interference from abroad would then be redundant.......yes? Edited February 4, 2012 by 473geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxyz Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) To pen the draft version of an article/proposal does not automatically exclude advice and input from others and render the result a personal plan We are talking about Chalerm here. I take it you have a clue who he is; an idea about his nature? As you wish, so when this draft finally appears I guess you guys will accept that there was no input from anybody promoting a little self interest... .. The logic of the last sentence escapes me. If this draft appears we still need to read it to form an opinion. Still this draft is unlikely to appear as Dept. PM Chalerm still want to discuss things in it with some fellow Pheu Thai members, probably some selected on suitability as for the recent cabinet changes It might have been a dictation from mr T and the discussion with PTP cabinet would be a one way conversation. Edited February 4, 2012 by wxyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 It might have been a dictation from mr T and the discussion with PTP cabinet would be a one way conversation. Nope, according to TVisa knowledgable and expert political commentators Whybother and Rixalex it is all his own work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) As you wish, so when this draft finally appears I guess you guys will accept that there was no input from anybody promoting a little self interest... .. The logic of the last sentence escapes me. If this draft appears we still need to read it to form an opinion. Still this draft is unlikely to appear as Dept. PM Chalerm still want to discuss things in it with some fellow Pheu Thai members, probably some selected on suitability as for the recent cabinet changes The logic is simple Rubl there are people here on the board who are prepared, indeed insist, this draft is all the personal work of Chalerm for reconcilliation, they appear to think he alone has constructed this draft......let us say the draft goes through without alteration........the usual bleat of interference from abroad would then be redundant.......yes? The OP states Deputy Prime Minister Police Captain Chalerm Yoobamrung said he has completed drafting a national reconciliation bill.He added he prepared the draft bill by himself and no one has seen its content yet. The rest is speculation Edited February 4, 2012 by rubl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Rubl, I recall you once came into a thread at post 175 and apologised for not reading the whole thread, then proceeded to post a comment that had been addressed at least twice already Do me a favour and go back and read the thread....there's a good chap.... Edited February 4, 2012 by 473geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Rubl, I recall you once came into a thread at post 175 and apologised for not reading the whole thread, then proceeded to post a comment that had been addressed at least twice already Do me a favour and go back and read the thread....there's a good chap.... Even though it raining here in Bangkok I'm still not in the mood for speculation at nauseam. You may continue if you have nothing better to do. Have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Drafted by him with lots of help from the man in Dubai! Such a scumbag him, his master, the master's puppet sister and the majority of the PTP. I suspect his bill will be made public just as soon as Thaksin gets done adding his touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looping Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 He noted that to achieve true national reconciliation, any incidents and outcomes after September 18, 2006, or the military coup and its after effects, must be voided. So Thaksin will still be held accountable for his actions before the coup? He'll still stand trial for all the outstanding cases against him? Or do they still plan to pin the deaths from the 2010 crackdown on Abhisit, then use that as a bargaining tool to 'balance' the scales of justice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Or do they still plan to pin the deaths from the 2010 crackdown on Abhisit, then use that as a bargaining tool to 'balance' the scales of justice? Yes they do and well nut-shelled. Edited February 4, 2012 by rixalex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 To pen the draft version of an article/proposal does not automatically exclude advice and input from others and render the result a personal plan But this does: He added he prepared the draft bill by himself and no one has seen its content yet. Nope it means he prepared it...and nobody has seen it............,,no indication at all that he has not adopted, utilised, included advice and ideas from other sources A litle over pedantic, but no surprise that you protect him regardless of his background and history, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 What are his qualifications for actually drafting a law? Also, if Thaksin is to get off for a criminal act, as the constitution states that "all Thais are equal,:anyone convicted of a criminal act after the coup must get off too. But most of Thaksins alleged crimes are from BEFORE the coup... So he wants then expunged completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxyz Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) sounds like thugocracy rules the land. noun. Rule of a country or state by a group of thugs. Edited February 4, 2012 by wxyz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Deputy PM Explains Charter Change Campaign to House A deputy premier maintains the push to amend the current charter is not aimed to absolve former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra of his crimes. Speaking during the parliamentary meeting today, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobumrung clarified to the House the meaning of the speech he made during his visit to Udon Thani Province. Chalerm had vowed to bring self-exiled former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra home to Thailand. The deputy premier said he'll pave the way for the return of Thaksin via the reconciliation bill he himself is drafting. He denied any links between the return of the former premier to the current push to amend the 2007 Constitution. The deputy premier said the reconciliation bill will contain 6 articles. The details of the bill are being kept under wraps by the Deputy PM, who said they'll be revealed when the time is right. -- Tan Network 2012-02-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) ^ nice gesture, Chalerm, but you're supposed to put your thumb up for a thumbs up Edited February 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Chalerm insisted charter amendment not for Thaksin's return BANGKOK, 23 February 2012 (NNT)-Deputy Prime Minister Police Captain Chalerm Yubumrung indicated that the charter amendment had nothing to do with the attempt to bring former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra back to Thailand. The Police Captain has insisted that the charter amendment proposal is intended to improve the reconciliation bill, and by no means is to facilitate the return of Police Lieutenant-Colonel Thaksin Shinawatra. -- NNT 2012-02-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Yai Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Drafted by him with lots of help from the man in Dubai! Such a scumbag him, his master, the master's puppet sister and the majority of the PTP. And don't forget the party's mega paid mouthpiece the Honorable Robert Amsterdam!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) ^ ^ a lot of usage of "police" in that brief article. Those NNT journalists have a good sense of humor. . Edited February 23, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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