Thai Immigration Arrest 65-Year-Old British National On Child Abuse Charges

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Thai Immigration arrest 65-year-old British National on child abuse charges

BANGKOK: -- An alleged child abuser, 65-year old British national, was captured by the Immigration Bureau Police on Sunday on charges of sexual exploitation of a minor and publicizing child pornography.

Immigration Bureau chief Pol Lt General Wiboon Bangthamai raided a house in Pridibhanomyong in Klongton Nua, Wattana District of Bangkok. Varley Layman Andrews, 65 year old British national was arrested on charges of statutory rape of a minor and child pornography. Andrews is wanted by both the Indian and the UK police. He fled to Thailand and changed his name to Martin Ashley.

The police have transferred the custody of Andrews to the British embassy in Thailand.

Translated from DailyNews.co.th

-- Tan Network 2012-02-06

[tangcoral]

Mr. Ashley, lucky you...now its your turn to abused, hopefully for a long time.

[englishinsiam]

Another piece of filth off the streets.

[rubl]

Mr. Ashley, lucky you...now its your turn to abused, hopefully for a long time.

Please rephrase to "justice will be served on him". If this person was abused he would get off with a clever lawyer

[huahinjoe]

Another piece of filth off the streets.

Yeah, its very good but the problem is still have thousands more... Would be nice if some expat ex-policemen or who have some power or courage (Balls) make some group to catch this crazy people and give them some lessons.....

Just setup a young girl's fake profile on Thaifriendly.com and let see how they feel then if they meet some body builder instead of the young girls... Maybe will teach lessons for the rest guys too a leaked video about the kindly threatment...

No offense, just an idea, definitly will reduce the number of pedophiles very very quickly and they can organize with the local police after or take the guy to immigration.

[OldeBellPedr]

I'm surprised that the British Embassy still has facilities to hold people in custody. 100 years ago the Thais weren't allowed to try British Subjects in Thailand but had to hand them over. In those days the British Embassy had its own prison. Where is Andrews now? in Asif Ahmad's spare room?

[jbhh]

I hope some guy in the prison he will end up in has a child and makes sure this sick man can never abuse a child again.

Now just take it a few steps step further...

1. find out how he got access to the kids, and once that is accomplished

2. Have a look at the back-alley brothels with under age kids being raised to become pros in the bars later, which are frequented by Thais pretty much exclusively.

It's always easy to point a finger at an Internationally known and wanted child abuser, is still doesn't change the fact that child abuse is a regular thing here.

Sorry for bashing... but this topic really gets under my skin.

[cdnvic]

Keep your posts civil. Obscene and rude replies will be removed.

[jbhh]

Another piece of filth off the streets.

Yeah, its very good but the problem is still have thousands more... Would be nice if some expat ex-policemen or who have some power or courage (Balls) make some group to catch this crazy people and give them some lessons.....

Just setup a young girl's fake profile on Thaifriendly.com and let see how they feel then if they meet some body builder instead of the young girls... Maybe will teach lessons for the rest guys too a leaked video about the kindly threatment...

No offense, just an idea, definitly will reduce the number of pedophiles very very quickly and they can organize with the local police after or take the guy to immigration.

Nice plan, but...

Pedophiles have easy access to under age kids in Thailand, they don't need the Internet.

If the guy gets beaten up by a body builder without abusing a child, then the only one that may get a problem with the BiB is the abuser in this case...

I wish pedophiles would be removed from society forever... the thought of how an old fart that is already on his way out of this world is messing up kids that have their whole life still in front of them makes me want to hurt people, too...

Edited February 6, 2012 by jbhh

[ianf]

Keep your posts civil. Obscene and rude replies will be removed.

It seems that whenever this subject is bought up we are in the world of the new 'witchcraft' - the 'burn them at the stake' mob come out and wave their flags. It seems to bring out the worst in people. I'm afraid that there may be underlying reasons why pedophilia is attractive to some people (mainly men) but it is something that you'll find has been part of society since the dawn of history. Why? I don't know. But I feel very uncomfortable with the 'hang 'em high' brigade simply because it just seems so archaic where mob prejudice takes over from rational thought. It brings out the worst in people - usually in the UK (eg The Sun readers or those that like the Daily Express and Mail). The sad thing to me is its OK for these people to enjoy their pornography with 18 (barely legal) or even 29 years olds dressed as schoolgirls - so they just fantasize that they are with kids (this includes Page 3 of the Sun which over the years has had plenty of schoolgirl look-alike models). I think many people may be encouraged to overstep the mark after seeing all this schoolgirl type modelling: It could actually encourage people to go after the real thing. So some rational discussion would be welcomed.

[ginjag]

sick creep, as though he couldn't find anything to dip his wick in.  Problem here is the kids are easy to find, some parents encourage it. (money again) authorities know where these places exist, mostly for Thais. Amazing where you never see or hear of any Thai child molesters, it's fairly frequent within Thai families. No excuse for this guy, he can't help it it's in him, it's a need-he has to be monitored, and locked.

[sunjunkie56]

Its a great shame that we can`t put the Paedos, who are being protected in the UK behind bars , Google Holie Grieg!!

[cardholder]

Keep your posts civil. Obscene and rude replies will be removed.

It seems that whenever this subject is bought up we are in the world of the new 'witchcraft' - the 'burn them at the stake' mob come out and wave their flags. It seems to bring out the worst in people. I'm afraid that there may be underlying reasons why pedophilia is attractive to some people (mainly men) but it is something that you'll find has been part of society since the dawn of history. Why? I don't know. But I feel very uncomfortable with the 'hang 'em high' brigade simply because it just seems so archaic where mob prejudice takes over from rational thought. It brings out the worst in people - usually in the UK (eg The Sun readers or those that like the Daily Express and Mail). The sad thing to me is its OK for these people to enjoy their pornography with 18 (barely legal) or even 29 years olds dressed as schoolgirls - so they just fantasize that they are with kids (this includes Page 3 of the Sun which over the years has had plenty of schoolgirl look-alike models). I think many people may be encouraged to overstep the mark after seeing all this schoolgirl type modelling: It could actually encourage people to go after the real thing. So some rational discussion would be welcomed.

There are boundaries. That is NOT open to discussion in my book. This guy has frequently stepped over the boundary.

I have enjoyed several fantasies with 20 odd year old Pattaya girls dressing in uniforms etc. I have NEVER broken the law and I would NEVER suggest that such legal activities would ever encourage any right-minded person to cross line.

To suggest otherwise puts someone in the same category as the scumbag Andrews

[newermonkey]

I feel sorry for him, there are a lot of people who prefer younger partners, I am sure its genetic just as it is for others such as gay, straight or whatever etc... He is being tried for something he has no control over. I would like to know why there is so much hatred in peoples posts, I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

[geezer553]

i hope this 65 year old nonce gets beaten and raped i have no respect for people who sexually abuse children!!!

-well done to the thai authorities who captured this evil man.....also wanted in the uk and india_why has it taken so long "why has he evaded capture for so long".

[sexy man]

let him rot in bangkok hilton. then he'll find out first hand what it is like to be abused

[Gillespie]

Keep your posts civil. Obscene and rude replies will be removed.

It seems that whenever this subject is bought up we are in the world of the new 'witchcraft' - the 'burn them at the stake' mob come out and wave their flags. It seems to bring out the worst in people. I'm afraid that there may be underlying reasons why pedophilia is attractive to some people (mainly men) but it is something that you'll find has been part of society since the dawn of history. Why? I don't know. But I feel very uncomfortable with the 'hang 'em high' brigade simply because it just seems so archaic where mob prejudice takes over from rational thought. It brings out the worst in people - usually in the UK (eg The Sun readers or those that like the Daily Express and Mail). The sad thing to me is its OK for these people to enjoy their pornography with 18 (barely legal) or even 29 years olds dressed as schoolgirls - so they just fantasize that they are with kids (this includes Page 3 of the Sun which over the years has had plenty of schoolgirl look-alike models). I think many people may be encouraged to overstep the mark after seeing all this schoolgirl type modelling: It could actually encourage people to go after the real thing. So some rational discussion would be welcomed.

There are boundaries. That is NOT open to discussion in my book. This guy has frequently stepped over the boundary.

I have enjoyed several fantasies with 20 odd year old Pattaya girls dressing in uniforms etc. I have NEVER broken the law and I would NEVER suggest that such legal activities would ever encourage any right-minded person to cross line.

To suggest otherwise puts someone in the same category as the scumbag Andrews

When you're acting out your schoolgirl fantasies, do you actually wonder what it would be like to frolic with real schoolgirls? If so, how can you adopt the moral high ground? And if not, they're pretty half-assed fantasies.

[geezer553]

I feel sorry for him, there are a lot of people who prefer younger partners, I am sure its genetic just as it is for others such as gay, straight or whatever etc... He is being tried for something he has no control over. I would like to know why there is so much hatred in peoples posts, I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

how can you feel sorry for somebody who has been a sexual pest interfering with under age children_children need protected.....

---------------------therfor my question to yourself.........what if he sexually interfeared with your children?

[housepainter]

I find it interesting that he is held within the detention cells of the British Embassy. They no doubt instructed the Thai Police in the matter and were involved in his detention. Put simply, if it weren't for the BE involvement he'd still be a free man.

That is the reality.

The Thai Police don't see paedophilia as the problem we in the West do.

Whatever their protestations, the fact is, that his country makes sexual provisions for the worlds perverts and has industrialised prostitution as an institution and even managed to produce free lance prostitutes on a National Scale.

The truth is that you can order a prostitute 24-7 anywhere in Thailand. Add to that this strange phoenomona of the transexual and their acceptance in society, a back ward society in many respects, and yet far more liberal and accepting than probably all the first world.

I question just why that is. Crudely put I believe it is a further example of the sexual predilictions of the Thais themselves.

The birth rate in Thailand is most healthy. However, the main reason being that as soon as a girl can ovulate she is to be made pregant. This is not by way of some teenage engagement in a misguided exploraation of sex. It is mainly due to some far older [ 20 years plus] male who may well be a member of her own family taking advantage of her.

Hence girls barely in their teens have babies by males who bare no responsibilty and abandon both children; the mother and the baby.

That is a major societal problem that Thailand refuses to address.

Then we have the tourist paedophiles. Hardly surprising as the Thai police are a backward institution devoid of modernisation, resources or the desire to improve.

Offenders simply move unknown amongst us and commit their crimes under the radar. Although their first preference will be young children, including babies, should they be committed to Thai prisons they can remain at liberty to offend.

The sexual activity amongst men is disproportionately high due to the bi-sexual tendencies of Thai men, the numbers of homosexuals and the transexuals. Both groups are willing participants with foreign paedophiles.

In contrast, a sentence in a UK based segregation unit is a sobering experience. The tracking of released offenders on the sex offenders register combined with travel restrictions makes for a much reduced personal freedom after release.

Furthermore, there is a high chance of attack from main stream offenders while in prison. It is the norm that all prisoners are compelled by threat of violence to themselves by others, thata should they have contact with any sex offender they must inflict grievous violence upon them.

We do have a problem with paedophilia in society. However, I would argue that we have a problem with prostitution, the exploitation of women and the attitude of men towards women. This is amplified in countries like Thailand where we see extreme examples enacted in the most graphic, basic and disgusting form.

Thai society has degenerated to a level where sex in your face permeates all stratum of society. If there were state brothels and the recognition of prostitution and regulation in order to ensure the safety of women and women it would not negate the street, back street and home abuse that is rampant across the whole of Thailand.

You have to question your own behaviour, sexual relations and reasons for being in Thailand as a presence there is contributory to the problem in many instances. Supporting prostituion is exploiting women. The paedophile exploited children.

Glass house dwelling and stone throwing was never the wisest of occupations.

[josephinebloggs]

I find it interesting that he is held within the detention cells of the British Embassy. They no doubt instructed the Thai Police in the matter and were involved in his detention. Put simply, if it weren't for the BE involvement he'd still be a free man.

That is the reality.

The Thai Police don't see paedophilia as the problem we in the West do.

Whatever their protestations, the fact is, that his country makes sexual provisions for the worlds perverts and has industrialised prostitution as an institution and even managed to produce free lance prostitutes on a National Scale.

The truth is that you can order a prostitute 24-7 anywhere in Thailand. Add to that this strange phoenomona of the transexual and their acceptance in society, a back ward society in many respects, and yet far more liberal and accepting than probably all the first world.

I question just why that is. Crudely put I believe it is a further example of the sexual predilictions of the Thais themselves.

The birth rate in Thailand is most healthy. However, the main reason being that as soon as a girl can ovulate she is to be made pregant. This is not by way of some teenage engagement in a misguided exploraation of sex. It is mainly due to some far older [ 20 years plus] male who may well be a member of her own family taking advantage of her.

Hence girls barely in their teens have babies by males who bare no responsibilty and abandon both children; the mother and the baby.

That is a major societal problem that Thailand refuses to address.

Then we have the tourist paedophiles. Hardly surprising as the Thai police are a backward institution devoid of modernisation, resources or the desire to improve.

Offenders simply move unknown amongst us and commit their crimes under the radar. Although their first preference will be young children, including babies, should they be committed to Thai prisons they can remain at liberty to offend.

The sexual activity amongst men is disproportionately high due to the bi-sexual tendencies of Thai men, the numbers of homosexuals and the transexuals. Both groups are willing participants with foreign paedophiles.

In contrast, a sentence in a UK based segregation unit is a sobering experience. The tracking of released offenders on the sex offenders register combined with travel restrictions makes for a much reduced personal freedom after release.

Furthermore, there is a high chance of attack from main stream offenders while in prison. It is the norm that all prisoners are compelled by threat of violence to themselves by others, thata should they have contact with any sex offender they must inflict grievous violence upon them.

We do have a problem with paedophilia in society. However, I would argue that we have a problem with prostitution, the exploitation of women and the attitude of men towards women. This is amplified in countries like Thailand where we see extreme examples enacted in the most graphic, basic and disgusting form.

Thai society has degenerated to a level where sex in your face permeates all stratum of society. If there were state brothels and the recognition of prostitution and regulation in order to ensure the safety of women and women it would not negate the street, back street and home abuse that is rampant across the whole of Thailand.

You have to question your own behaviour, sexual relations and reasons for being in Thailand as a presence there is contributory to the problem in many instances. Supporting prostituion is exploiting women. The paedophile exploited children.

Glass house dwelling and stone throwing was never the wisest of occupations.

You make some very good points, sadly.

[dalsobrook]

Awe, poor Mr. Ashley, you're going to find out what it is like to be abused! I hope you back is healthy enough for all the bending over you're going to have to endure. I'm pretty sure they don't hand out vasoline/petroleum jelly in prison. It's inevitable, I suggest you just enjoy it.

[Misterwhisper]

Mr. Ashley, lucky you...now its your turn to abused, hopefully for a long time.

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson in 'Anger Management': "I just hope Andrews will be passed around the cell block like a peace pipe..."

[newermonkey]

I feel sorry for him, there are a lot of people who prefer younger partners, I am sure its genetic just as it is for others such as gay, straight or whatever etc... He is being tried for something he has no control over. I would like to know why there is so much hatred in peoples posts, I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

how can you feel sorry for somebody who has been a sexual pest interfering with under age children_children need protected.....

---------------------therfor my question to yourself.........what if he sexually interfeared with your children?

My boy would simply say NO to him.

But there are plenty of kids who say yes, it is a fact that most of the sex between adults and underage kids is consensual and a very tiny percentage can be classed as non-statutory rape. its actually a matter of education.

[TomTao]

I feel sorry for him, there are a lot of people who prefer younger partners, I am sure its genetic just as it is for others such as gay, straight or whatever etc... He is being tried for something he has no control over. I would like to know why there is so much hatred in peoples posts, I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

Many men who predate young children have been often victims themselves when they were young, if they could be found early and counselled before they begin to offend, then we may see much less offences committed against children. The other group of offenders are simply depraved individuals who simply enjoy targeting young children, these are the ones who need to be removed from society or monitored so they cannot reoffend, ever.

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Edited February 6, 2012 by TomTao

[thaiIand]

I feel sorry for him, there are a lot of people who prefer younger partners, I am sure its genetic just as it is for others such as gay, straight or whatever etc... He is being tried for something he has no control over. I would like to know why there is so much hatred in peoples posts, I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

Hmm many men have a high libido, live in thailand and are faithfull to a woman who isnt from a bar.

Yet they keep fantasizing about going out and banging 10 prime escorts at the same time.

But they dont. They'll watch gangbang porn.

Nobody forced t he pedo to act on his sexual preference.

Just as many closet gays will stay with their wives forever and never experiment gay sex, just like some fetish crazy loonies into getting shit on the face will keep this fantasy for the porn world.

[scotbeve]

Mr. Ashley, lucky you...now its your turn to abused, hopefully for a long time.

Please rephrase to "justice will be served on him". If this person was abused he would get off with a clever lawyer

Most unfortunately Uncle Rubl, I'll hafta agree with you on this one.... sad but true....

[Roj]

I feel sorry for him, there are a lot of people who prefer younger partners, I am sure its genetic just as it is for others such as gay, straight or whatever etc... He is being tried for something he has no control over. I would like to know why there is so much hatred in peoples posts, I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

He can just say no! Children are entitled to their childhood. It would appear some stones are being overturned here.

[geriatrickid]

Rather disgusting that some would hope that the accused is raped or otherwise made the victim of a crime. There is a court system. It is the court system that will pass judgement and that will decide on the penalty. Fortunately, law and order will prevail. I am not particularly comfortable with mob "justice". I often think that some of the most violent reactions come from those that repress hidden desires.

All that matters is that an abuser is removed from society and people are protected. He was able to what he did because along the way he had enablers. w\Whether it was the people that supplied the victims, or the places where the victims were abused, or that looked the other way. Those people are just as guilty, and yet no one says anything about them.

[Oli23]

This problem is huge. Moving to Cambodia and Vietnam too... or other poor countries where the mafia provide them. I heart there is a way (medical) to cut the envy of those mad guys, but human right is again.

All the guys were involved in childs abuse start again after getting out of jail. IT must be a real international debate on this kind of crime.

[samsiam]

I notice quite a lot of over reactions.

Ask the kids how they feel.

Supporting prostituion is exploiting women.

That is a ridiculous statement....woman can choose what they do themselves and an agreement of mutual benefit between both parties is suitable to both parties for various reasons...