Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

A variation of the SLR is the TLR (Twin-Lens Reflex) and one of the first camera types I owned, Yashica TLR. Yeah I know, it's dating me. biggrin.png

220px-Yashica_mat_124G_-_WLF_ouvert.jpg

I have a TLR on my shelves and it takes great pictures. Also view cameras, polaroids, pinholes, etc, etc.. even a lego camera.. ;o)

  • 11 months later...
Posted

You seem to know a lot.I need urgent advice.

I have to buy a digital camera.

for making family photos touristic photos as simple as possible no need for making videos or fotographing moving objects or underwater.as easy as possible to handle without having to consult a thick manual.If possible with batteries.Medium price range .Do you need more information to be able to give an advice?

Thank you

  • 7 months later...
Posted

Just a note about Rangefinder cameras...film or digital.

Most importantly, the main reason rangefinders perform so well

is that there is no "black out" when the shutter release is pressed.

This means that the photographer...even at that most critical of

moments always has the subject in the viewfinder. On SLR

cameras; digital or film, there is a brief moment when the viewfinder

is blanked out as the mirror rises to let the light strike the sensor/film.

There is no reflex mirror in a rangefinder camera to cause this.

In case anybody wants to know why Leica's cost so much please

PM me and I'll tell you. I own 2...M-6 & M-9 with some rather

very pricey lenses. They record great images, I create them.

  • 8 months later...
Posted (edited)

Just a note about Rangefinder cameras...film or digital.

Most importantly, the main reason rangefinders perform so well

is that there is no "black out" when the shutter release is pressed.

This means that the photographer...even at that most critical of

moments always has the subject in the viewfinder. On SLR

cameras; digital or film, there is a brief moment when the viewfinder

is blanked out as the mirror rises to let the light strike the sensor/film.

There is no reflex mirror in a rangefinder camera to cause this.

In case anybody wants to know why Leica's cost so much please

PM me and I'll tell you. I own 2...M-6 & M-9 with some rather

very pricey lenses. They record great images, I create them.

As a long time RF shooter I, amongst many others, realise that the essence of RF shooting is found in the actual absence of an EVF which, as such, enables the photographer to concentrate on the image CONTENT as opposed the RENDITION of the lens in use, which is the pertinent characteristic of an EVF. It is inaccuate to state that "blackout" is the end all and be all, when it is not the main criteria. TLR's, pellicle mirrored SLR's, mirror up implementation will combat this trait which is not confined to RF shooting. I would also question the statement that a camera records in itself a great image. It does not. It merely records the photographers selection exposure which in itself is the perception and visualisation of the end result via his EV/lens perspective selection.

And why do Leica's cost so much? - you get what you pay for, or you pay for what you get!

Edited by fimgirl
  • Like 1
Posted

@ Fimgirl...

Why do Leica's cost so much? Hmmmmm....over the years I have also wondered

why myself. I reckon why they cost so much is both queries you gave plus that

awfully visual, almost visible from the Moon, red logo! That blasted thing must

account for at least half the price. As to what any camera records....I simply believe

it is recording what the user reckons is a great image and also what may not be a

great image when those "Ooops (or favourite explicative) what was I thinking" moments

happen. About "blackout"...yes there are ways around it when using an SLR just as

there are ways around parallax error in TLR's, there's ways around everything it

seems...however...many things can change in 1/60th of a second (just an example)

which can ruin a one off shot when the photographer simply can't see the subject

in the blacked out time frame. Now if the shot is "staged" or a studio set up, the

photog can always do it again...in the field, say in street/news shoots, if the photog

gets off a second decent shot...that's pure luck...many things can change rapidly;

such as a vehicles windscreen reflecting the sun into said shot obliterating everything.

Mind you there's always workarounds as I previously stated...however there are times

when those workarounds just can't be done. As for viewfinders...not the EVF mind you,

you will need a VF if you want to use say the 21 or 24 mm WA lenses unless you

have enough experience to magically correctly frame a shot without one just using

the cameras VF. Personally I would not want to use a 16K $ camera/lens combination

in a poke & hope situation...aka...point-n-shoot. EVF's will get better as time goes by

however for the present they're good on mirrorless bodies & some PnS cameras IMO.

Another personal gripe is that I find a stability issue with using the LCD screen as a

VF mainly because how can one be stable with their arms outstretched? To me that

may be fine for happy snaps but sweet FA else & I'll use the camera on my Samsung

Galaxy 4 instead in that type of situation if there's nothing else available in me belt pouch.

And now...Leica has their new T Series camera & lenses available...quite a lotta dosh

to toss out for a PnS camera IMO...even if it is CNC'd out of a solid block of Aluminum

and it has no built in VF...not even a tiny one such as on Canon's G12! So...Leica has

come out with an EVF just for the T Series....oh what joy...more dosh to toss out.

Even more dosh tossed out if one wants to use their M mount lenses for the adaptor.

When I bought my M6 all those years ago I bought it for two reasons; firstly I could

finally afford the body & a couple lenses along with the "motor". Secondly I bought

it because the shutter was virtually silent. Yeah...it makes a bit of a subdued sound

but compared to the motorised F2AS I usually used back then it was silent. That

figure of merit had many uses in itself...and it still does today. A fine easily available

situation is have a look & listen at a major press conference on television. Listen

when the keynote speaker(s) raise their heads up to look at the audience and the

SLR kitted photogs start a 5 second time on target barrage of flashes & frames.

If I'm using my Leica's I'm in & out with "the shot" before they begin firing. You

can't quite hear what the speaker is saying over the mirror thuds & beeps...

I like my DSLR's too...don't get me wrong...but to me there is a time & place for

everything...especially when silence, stealth and compactness is the order of the

moment.

Posted

I can remember my Farther with his early Nikon F2 Photomic. He reminded me of a One Man Band. Clattering around with a string of Lenses and Gadget Bag.Mother got all the best shots with Her Cheapo early Auto, and got the Old Boy wound up a treat when folks liked hers better.

  • Like 1
Posted

@Sunshine

Leica's and their pricings might be in line with the following.

Back in the UK a friend was a very rich and successful car dealer. To move a specific vehicle he would place an identical one alongside but priced somewhat lower. No difference between the two but the price. The one he wanted to sell, the higher priced one, went out every time. What he was projecting, and indeed it panned out, was "if you can afford it, it ain't worth having", aka easy come, easy go.

Nowt so strange as folk eh?

  • Like 1
  • 1 year later...
Posted (edited)

You seem to know a lot.I need urgent advice.

I have to buy a digital camera.

for making family photos touristic photos as simple as possible no need for making videos or fotographing moving objects or underwater.as easy as possible to handle without having to consult a thick manual.If possible with batteries.Medium price range .Do you need more information to be able to give an advice?

Thank you

Was going to comment but did not see the date of the post! An oldie resurrected! facepalm.gif

Edited by Fiddlesticks
  • Like 1
Posted (edited)

You seem to know a lot.I need urgent advice.

I have to buy a digital camera.

for making family photos touristic photos as simple as possible no need for making videos or fotographing moving objects or underwater.as easy as possible to handle without having to consult a thick manual.If possible with batteries.Medium price range .Do you need more information to be able to give an advice?

Thank you

Was going to comment but did not see the date of the post! An oldie resurrected! facepalm.gif

Better late then never I guess , you any good with a Commodore 64 computer by any chance ?

cheesy.gif

Cheers

Apologies Stix

Edited by Goompa
  • Like 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.


  • Topics

  • Latest posts...

    1. 651

      Thailand's Expats Urged to Register with TRD for Tax, Says Expert

    2. 57

      Getting Old: Stoic About It or Endless Whinger?

    3. 13

      Thailand Live Monday 25 November 2024

    4. 3

      Thai-Chinese Collaboration: MOU Signed for Environmentally Friendly Waste-to-Energy Plant

    5. 1

      Marrying a Thai Wife: Overrated or Underrated?

    6. 5

      Tour Boat Capsizes in Cheow Lan Dam in Storm: Search for Missing French Tourist

    7. 0

      Young Male Elephant Found Dead in Natural Canal in Chachoengsao

    8. 13

      Thailand Live Monday 25 November 2024

  • Popular in The Pub


×
×
  • Create New...