Has Anyone Driven The 2012 Nissan Almera With Supercharger

[max108]

The car comes with a 1.2 ltr motor but with supercharger performs similar to a 1.5 ltr motor.

Would like to know if the extra demand on the engine shortens engine life.

[culicine]

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

[max108]

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

I have driven the car but could not communicate well with the salesman due to his lack of english and my little thai. I was not aware of the supercharger at the time but after stutying the brochure I was made aware of it. I did test the stop-start feature at red lights and that works very well. I believe the supercharger can be activated by depressing a button on the gear shifter eas also told that the supercharger kicks in when exceeding 2000 RPM.

I'm presently out of the country for a few month but would like to know if there is a long waiting list when ordering. Anyone know ?

[dazk]

would not shorten engine life, i have owned supercharged motors of 15 years age still on original engine, would add to the fuel consumption though

Edited May 19, 2012 by dazk

[thaicbr]

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

I have driven the car but could not communicate well with the salesman due to his lack of english and my little thai. I was not aware of the supercharger at the time but after stutying the brochure I was made aware of it. I did test the stop-start feature at red lights and that works very well. I believe the supercharger can be activated by depressing a button on the gear shifter eas also told that the supercharger kicks in when exceeding 2000 RPM.

I'm presently out of the country for a few month but would like to know if there is a long waiting list when ordering. Anyone know ?

Umm in which country do Nissan do an Almera 1.2 with a supercharger????

sent from my Wellcom A90+

[sezze]

When it is a engine developed by the company it will not shorten engine life . Everything is made for this spec , and will have it's corresponding lifetime . Aftermarket modifications will shorten engine lifetime as these are not testen the same way , and by this the whole engine ( and the rest of the vehicle like gearbox , suspension , brakes ) is not modified for this purpose . It is the same as with the electronic tuning ( chipping ) , you can get more out of the same engine but this will shorten the lifetime and increase failure rate . Also HP or kW needed is fuel needed , it is just a basic fact . So increasing your power will increase fuel consumption .

[max108]

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

I have driven the car but could not communicate well with the salesman due to his lack of english and my little thai. I was not aware of the supercharger at the time but after stutying the brochure I was made aware of it. I did test the stop-start feature at red lights and that works very well. I believe the supercharger can be activated by depressing a button on the gear shifter eas also told that the supercharger kicks in when exceeding 2000 RPM.

I'm presently out of the country for a few month but would like to know if there is a long waiting list when ordering. Anyone know ?

Umm in which country do Nissan do an Almera 1.2 with a supercharger????

sent from my Wellcom A90+

The car with has a direct injection engine with supercharger and is available in thailand.

[culicine]

Will the engine even be available in Thailand? It's a factory supercharger, and fitted to the march/micra in some markets, so there should be a full warranty. I've never driven a car with this engine but there are some reviews on the net about it.

I have driven the car but could not communicate well with the salesman due to his lack of english and my little thai. I was not aware of the supercharger at the time but after stutying the brochure I was made aware of it. I did test the stop-start feature at red lights and that works very well. I believe the supercharger can be activated by depressing a button on the gear shifter eas also told that the supercharger kicks in when exceeding 2000 RPM.

I'm presently out of the country for a few month but would like to know if there is a long waiting list when ordering. Anyone know ?

Umm in which country do Nissan do an Almera 1.2 with a supercharger????

sent from my Wellcom A90+

The car with has a direct injection engine with supercharger and is available in thailand.

There's no sign of this model on the nissan website. The only model shown is the NA engine with 79HP. The supercharged version has something like 97HP. Have you got a Thai brochure with this model you can upload?

[muratremix]

How much more expensive this supercharged model compated to standard engine?

[rixalex]

The car with has a direct injection engine with supercharger and is available in thailand.

Strange. Wasn't available a few months ago when i bought one.

[dazk]

video review of the car

[rixalex]

[media=]

[/media]

video review of the car

Great but nothing in that that suggests it will be available here... well not that i picked up on.

I think anyway most people buying Marches and Almeras are keen on budget and costs, and seeing as the standard 1.2 engine gives sufficient power for most situations, won't be keen on something that will cost more at the gas station.

[max108]

The car with has a direct injection engine with supercharger and is available in thailand.

Strange. Wasn't available a few months ago when i bought one.

I think you guys are right. Supercharger not available on the 1.2 engine in Thailand. Here I thought I found a car that will work for me....ecconomy and when required extra power. Now I'm back to square one trying to find a car that gives me good fuel ecconomy, adequate power and less then 750,000 bts.

I may consider a factory dual fuel car. Also very important, I need a short waiting period as I'm out of the country and want drive it soon after I get back to Thailand. My 2000 Soluna still runs great but just want to get something new.

BTW how do you like your Almera ? How does it drive on the highway ?

[rixalex]

I think you guys are right. Supercharger not available on the 1.2 engine in Thailand. Here I thought I found a car that will work for me....ecconomy and when required extra power. Now I'm back to square one trying to find a car that gives me good fuel ecconomy, adequate power and less then 750,000 bts.

I may consider a factory dual fuel car. Also very important, I need a short waiting period as I'm out of the country and want drive it soon after I get back to Thailand. My 2000 Soluna still runs great but just want to get something new.

BTW how do you like your Almera ? How does it drive on the highway ?

The Almera is fine for what it is and it's great value for money.

I've been spoilt driving some very nice cars, so in terms of driving experience, the Almera isn't a car i itch to drive. It's average in just about every regard. Average, but not below par, so i'm never driving it thinking i wish it did this, or i wish it did that. On the highway it will easily cruise at 120 or 130, but probably it's more comfortable at around 100. Top speed though for me isn't such an issue, more interested in acceleration, and in this regard, it is fine. Hope that helps.

[max108]

I think you guys are right. Supercharger not available on the 1.2 engine in Thailand. Here I thought I found a car that will work for me....ecconomy and when required extra power. Now I'm back to square one trying to find a car that gives me good fuel ecconomy, adequate power and less then 750,000 bts.

I may consider a factory dual fuel car. Also very important, I need a short waiting period as I'm out of the country and want drive it soon after I get back to Thailand. My 2000 Soluna still runs great but just want to get something new.

BTW how do you like your Almera ? How does it drive on the highway ?

The Almera is fine for what it is and it's great value for money.

I've been spoilt driving some very nice cars, so in terms of driving experience, the Almera isn't a car i itch to drive. It's average in just about every regard. Average, but not below par, so i'm never driving it thinking i wish it did this, or i wish it did that. On the highway it will easily cruise at 120 or 130, but probably it's more comfortable at around 100. Top speed though for me isn't such an issue, more interested in acceleration, and in this regard, it is fine. Hope that helps.

Thanks for sharing your Almera driving experience. I am also used to driving more powerfull cars here in Canada but when in Thailand I am driving a 12 year old Toyota Soluna 1500 CC and it is still quick for city driving. I don't drive much over 100 km/hr on the highway but my biggest concern is being able to pass safely the big trucks on a nondivided road. I don't like being stuck behind a smoke belging trucks going 70 kph.

Most of my driving is in the city so The Almera is still high on my list.

Does anyone know the aprox. delivery period for the Almera. I know Honda Jazz is 3 month.

[culicine]

Did you consider the ford fiesta? It is supposed to give very good fuel economy, especially on the highway, not sure about around town. I think the delivery is relatively fast too. If you are considering cars up to the 700-750K mark its worth a look. But the jazz would be better in some ways as it has a lot more space inside and quite versatile - delivery I think will be long too. The almera is large too, but with a smaller more economical engine it has less power, but probably still adequate for around town.

[Hostile17]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

Edited May 22, 2012 by Hostile17

[rixalex]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

In over 7,000 kms of 80% city driving, i've averaged over 17km per litre. A diesel pickup will do better? Are you sure about that?

[funcat]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

In over 7,000 kms of 80% city driving, i've averaged over 17km per litre. A diesel pickup will do better? Are you sure about that?

If you compare the New Ranger 2.2 with the Almera,the costs in fuel consumption will be pretty similar...the truck will use a little more fuel,but diesel is cheaper ...

[rixalex]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

In over 7,000 kms of 80% city driving, i've averaged over 17km per litre. A diesel pickup will do better? Are you sure about that?

If you compare the New Ranger 2.2 with the Almera,the costs in fuel consumption will be pretty similar...the truck will use a little more fuel,but diesel is cheaper ...

Can we talk figures? What sort of kpl would you get out of that Ranger with mainly city driving, and how much is diesel these days?

[max108]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

A pickup is not an obtion ......the small parking stalls at BIG C make life difficult. When I see people with pickups struggle when parking at these places I am glad to have a small vehicle.

[culicine]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

A pickup is not an obtion ......the small parking stalls at BIG C make life difficult. When I see people with pickups struggle when parking at these places I am glad to have a small vehicle.

And the ranger/bt50 is so big some people cannot put them in their car parking space at home and shut the gate!

[funcat]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

In over 7,000 kms of 80% city driving, i've averaged over 17km per litre. A diesel pickup will do better? Are you sure about that?

If you compare the New Ranger 2.2 with the Almera,the costs in fuel consumption will be pretty similar...the truck will use a little more fuel,but diesel is cheaper ...

Can we talk figures? What sort of kpl would you get out of that Ranger with mainly city driving, and how much is diesel these days?

OK...I've test driven both of those cars and I'm on the waiting list (but will probably go with the Ranger)...normal driving in the city of course,both cars showed 12+km/l on the meter(that must be close guess),which is really surprising considering size and weight of those vehicles...if you are getting 17km/l that's pretty good !!...Anyway,the cost(in CM) of the Gasohol95(that's what Almera should use) is about/close to 40 Baht/l and diesel is about 32...that's as close as I can get and I think it is close.... The Ranger is much better option for me...

[aussiebebe]

just get a diesel pickup if you care about fuel consumption

In over 7,000 kms of 80% city driving, i've averaged over 17km per litre. A diesel pickup will do better? Are you sure about that?

That's great fuel economy, is that with your Almera?

[aussiebebe]

[media=]

[/media]

video review of the car

I like that video, it's better than Top Gear - you actually learn something about the car!

[rixalex]

OK...I've test driven both of those cars and I'm on the waiting list (but will probably go with the Ranger)...normal driving in the city of course,both cars showed 12+km/l on the meter(that must be close guess),which is really surprising considering size and weight of those vehicles...if you are getting 17km/l that's pretty good !!...Anyway,the cost(in CM) of the Gasohol95(that's what Almera should use) is about/close to 40 Baht/l and diesel is about 32...that's as close as I can get and I think it is close.... The Ranger is much better option for me...

Are you taking your reading of fuel consumption from what the test vehicles you drove were showing? If so, you really have no idea how they have been driven, to make any sort of comparison. I've driven mine as i say, 7000 kms, mostly in the city, and whilst i don't thrash it, i'm not that light footed either, so i think my figure is going to be more accurate, than that of a test car.

With regards fuel, who told you it should use Gasohol 95? Inside of the filler cap and in driver manual says E20, which is around 35baht a litre. I'm aware of the arguments about E20 and am also aware that many people running these cars choose to us 91 or 95, but it will run perfectly happily on E20 and i think unless you are thinking of owning the car more than 10 years, you don't have too much to worry about.

In summary, i think there are many reasons why a Ranger would be a better buy than an Almera, for certain people, but i don't think using the reasoning of better fuel economy is a valid one.

All a bit by the by as max, the OP, has said he wants something small.

[funcat]

OK...I've test driven both of those cars and I'm on the waiting list (but will probably go with the Ranger)...normal driving in the city of course,both cars showed 12+km/l on the meter(that must be close guess),which is really surprising considering size and weight of those vehicles...if you are getting 17km/l that's pretty good !!...Anyway,the cost(in CM) of the Gasohol95(that's what Almera should use) is about/close to 40 Baht/l and diesel is about 32...that's as close as I can get and I think it is close.... The Ranger is much better option for me...

Are you taking your reading of fuel consumption from what the test vehicles you drove were showing? If so, you really have no idea how they have been driven, to make any sort of comparison. I've driven mine as i say, 7000 kms, mostly in the city, and whilst i don't thrash it, i'm not that light footed either, so i think my figure is going to be more accurate, than that of a test car.

With regards fuel, who told you it should use Gasohol 95? Inside of the filler cap and in driver manual says E20, which is around 35baht a litre. I'm aware of the arguments about E20 and am also aware that many people running these cars choose to us 91 or 95, but it will run perfectly happily on E20 and i think unless you are thinking of owning the car more than 10 years, you don't have too much to worry about.

In summary, i think there are many reasons why a Ranger would be a better buy than an Almera, for certain people, but i don't think using the reasoning of better fuel economy is a valid one.

All a bit by the by as max, the OP, has said he wants something small.

No sense to argue here,since the Almera is(!) the best choice for the eco sedans in TH...my readings been of the km/l meter and I did 0'it out before the test.It was stop'n go with some heavy acceleration at some times,so that's why the readings were lower in the 12's km/l...but I wouldn't normally drive this way,so they should be in the numbers you're getting IMO.

As to use of the E20 gasohol...well,if it says it on the gas cap that's means it is potentially ready for it,but I would not use it,as it lowers the performance of the engine and it's life as well,I think..."you are what you it" some people say-same goes with car engines...

The Ranger 2.2 is in a different class...and costs 200K more,but it's fuel economy is great (there were posts about it already)...so this is still my choice...and my big family requires a big car some times .

[rixalex]

OK...I've test driven both of those cars and I'm on the waiting list (but will probably go with the Ranger)...normal driving in the city of course,both cars showed 12+km/l on the meter(that must be close guess),which is really surprising considering size and weight of those vehicles...if you are getting 17km/l that's pretty good !!...Anyway,the cost(in CM) of the Gasohol95(that's what Almera should use) is about/close to 40 Baht/l and diesel is about 32...that's as close as I can get and I think it is close.... The Ranger is much better option for me...

Are you taking your reading of fuel consumption from what the test vehicles you drove were showing? If so, you really have no idea how they have been driven, to make any sort of comparison. I've driven mine as i say, 7000 kms, mostly in the city, and whilst i don't thrash it, i'm not that light footed either, so i think my figure is going to be more accurate, than that of a test car.

With regards fuel, who told you it should use Gasohol 95? Inside of the filler cap and in driver manual says E20, which is around 35baht a litre. I'm aware of the arguments about E20 and am also aware that many people running these cars choose to us 91 or 95, but it will run perfectly happily on E20 and i think unless you are thinking of owning the car more than 10 years, you don't have too much to worry about.

In summary, i think there are many reasons why a Ranger would be a better buy than an Almera, for certain people, but i don't think using the reasoning of better fuel economy is a valid one.

All a bit by the by as max, the OP, has said he wants something small.

No sense to argue here,since the Almera is(!) the best choice for the eco sedans in TH...my readings been of the km/l meter and I did 0'it out before the test.It was stop'n go with some heavy acceleration at some times,so that's why the readings were lower in the 12's km/l...but I wouldn't normally drive this way,so they should be in the numbers you're getting IMO.

As to use of the E20 gasohol...well,if it says it on the gas cap that's means it is potentially ready for it,but I would not use it,as it lowers the performance of the engine and it's life as well,I think..."you are what you it" some people say-same goes with car engines...

The Ranger 2.2 is in a different class...and costs 200K more,but it's fuel economy is great (there were posts about it already)...so this is still my choice...and my big family requires a big car some times .

I get what you say about E20, but at the end of the day, if cost at the tank is your priority, and if you don't plan on keeping the car 10 years or more, i really don't think it will be much of an issue. Driving past my local gas station this morning i saw it at 34.48.

Anyway, as i say, i think the Ranger is great. I just don't think your earlier comment that if you care about fuel economy, buy a Ranger, was entirely accurate.

[funcat]

OK...I've test driven both of those cars and I'm on the waiting list (but will probably go with the Ranger)...normal driving in the city of course,both cars showed 12+km/l on the meter(that must be close guess),which is really surprising considering size and weight of those vehicles...if you are getting 17km/l that's pretty good !!...Anyway,the cost(in CM) of the Gasohol95(that's what Almera should use) is about/close to 40 Baht/l and diesel is about 32...that's as close as I can get and I think it is close.... The Ranger is much better option for me...

Are you taking your reading of fuel consumption from what the test vehicles you drove were showing? If so, you really have no idea how they have been driven, to make any sort of comparison. I've driven mine as i say, 7000 kms, mostly in the city, and whilst i don't thrash it, i'm not that light footed either, so i think my figure is going to be more accurate, than that of a test car.

With regards fuel, who told you it should use Gasohol 95? Inside of the filler cap and in driver manual says E20, which is around 35baht a litre. I'm aware of the arguments about E20 and am also aware that many people running these cars choose to us 91 or 95, but it will run perfectly happily on E20 and i think unless you are thinking of owning the car more than 10 years, you don't have too much to worry about.

In summary, i think there are many reasons why a Ranger would be a better buy than an Almera, for certain people, but i don't think using the reasoning of better fuel economy is a valid one.

All a bit by the by as max, the OP, has said he wants something small.

No sense to argue here,since the Almera is(!) the best choice for the eco sedans in TH...my readings been of the km/l meter and I did 0'it out before the test.It was stop'n go with some heavy acceleration at some times,so that's why the readings were lower in the 12's km/l...but I wouldn't normally drive this way,so they should be in the numbers you're getting IMO.

As to use of the E20 gasohol...well,if it says it on the gas cap that's means it is potentially ready for it,but I would not use it,as it lowers the performance of the engine and it's life as well,I think..."you are what you it" some people say-same goes with car engines...

The Ranger 2.2 is in a different class...and costs 200K more,but it's fuel economy is great (there were posts about it already)...so this is still my choice...and my big family requires a big car some times .

I get what you say about E20, but at the end of the day, if cost at the tank is your priority, and if you don't plan on keeping the car 10 years or more, i really don't think it will be much of an issue. Driving past my local gas station this morning i saw it at 34.48.

Anyway, as i say, i think the Ranger is great. I just don't think your earlier comment that if you care about fuel economy, buy a Ranger, was entirely accurate.

here is something about fuel economy....http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/455853-ford-ranger-t6-22-tdci/page__st__600

...if you don't care about use of your engine,just pure $ savings,I'll install Lpg system and pay 0.5 baht/km...

[rixalex]

...if you don't care about use of your engine,just pure $ savings,I'll install Lpg system and pay 0.5 baht/km...

1) LPG systems i have run in the past cost about 2 to 2.5 baht per km. Where do you get the 0.5 baht figure from?

2) If you buy a new car, which is what we are discussing, and have LPG fitted, it will screw up your manufacturer's warrantee

3) If you buy a small saloon, the LPG tank will fill the entire boot, leaving you with no space.

4) The LPG i ran was very prone to stalling when sat in traffic, and on one occasion when a mechanic was trying to repair it, the engine exploded in a ball of flames.

So whilst i agree that if fuel cost is your only consideration, you could fit LPG and save even more money than E20, but the potential drawbacks are somewhat greater.

Edited May 23, 2012 by rixalex