webfact Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Rally leaders face treason accusations The Nation BANGKOK: -- A Pheu Thai Party MP yesterday lodged a police complaint accusing Pitak Siam group leaders of treason in connection with Saturday's anti-government rally Pheu Thai Party MP Singthong Buachum accused Pitak Siam group leader General Boonlert Kaewprasit and five others - Squadron Leader Prasong Soonsiri, General Pathompong Kesornsuk, Kaewsan Atibhodi, Samdin Lertbut and Tul Sitthisomwong - of treason in accordance with the Internal Security Act 2008. He also submitted evidence to officers at Dusit Police Station including seven samples of documents, CDs and pictures he obtained from websites and cameras of people present at the scene, and from the media. Meanwhile, Karom Polpornklang, a lawyer for the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship, also lodged a complaint with police at the same station accusing Boonlert, Pathompong, Prasong, Air Marshal Watchara Ruethakani, General Nattanai Permsab, Thaikorn Polsuwan and Sub-Lt Saemdin Lertbut of violating Article 113, Article 80 and Article 116 of the Criminal Code. The lawyer alleged they attempted to bring down the government by calling on the military to oust it. He also submitted evidence including documents and CDs. Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung said police would handle the cases without discrimination. All suspects who had been arrested have been released without bail. Chalerm said the Internal Security Act (ISA) is expected to be lifted today. Meanwhile, police pressed an additional charge against Somsamai Nipaji, 58, the driver of a truck that allegedly ran through a barricade and hit police officers. Somsamai was released on Bt50,000 bail. He was charged with violating the ISA and resisting arrest. Scientific Crime Detection officials collected evidence allegedly found in Somsamai's truck. It included CDs, a water bottle and metal pieces that looked like parts of tear-gas canisters. Police yesterday lodged three separate suits against 127 suspects accused of violating the ISA at the Dusit District Court. The three suits comprised three different groups of 97, 16 and 14 people who were not present at the court and have been released on bail. Police will file suits after five days against another 10 suspects who are minors. -- The Nation 2012-11- 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Buchholz Posted November 27, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2012 Chalerm said the Internal Security Act (ISA) is expected to be lifted today. Can someone please take the drink out of his hand and tell him it was already lifted yesterday? . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Chalerm said the Internal Security Act (ISA) is expected to be lifted today. Can someone please take the drink out of his hand and tell him it was already lifted yesterday? . It is probably exactly what he said when he was asked yesterday unless he was giving interviews in the small hours this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 They should be careful where they go with these treason charges. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 They should be careful where they go with these treason charges. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. Indeed. Too many sheep followers forget that the reds were calling for the overthrow of a legitimate government in 2010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Like children running to teacher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That's fine, as long as there are no double standards. Throw Thaksin in the same cell with him, and everyone in Thailand is the winner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 It seems Charlems "ear-medicine rapidly eating his brain cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GentlemanJim Posted November 27, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) And so we now see the attempt to silence forever any dissent or alternative viewpoint. Be warned everyone, the single party agenda moves on and if the Fugitive abroad loses a grip on that he loses Thailand. Far far more treasonous for Thaksin's son to say 'My Father will be the first President of Thailand'! Yikes, how did he get away with that one, especially while he said it to a policeman out the window of his car, which he was driving whilst drunk. The one party republic agenda continues and progresses insidiously. I wonder if Thais are ever taught at school, in biology, one of the lessons about the frog! If you drop a frog into a pan of boiling water it will jump back out immediately, however, if you put a frog into a pan of cold water and then slowly bring the water to the boil, the frog will remain there, totally unaware of its dangerous predicament until it meets its demise! Edited November 27, 2012 by GentlemanJim 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 And so we now see the attempt to silence forever any dissent or alternative viewpoint. Be warned everyone, the single party agenda moves on and if the Fugitive abroad loses a grip on that he loses Thailand. Far far more treasonous for Thaksin's son to say 'My Father will be the first President of Thailand'! Yikes, how did he get away with that one, especially while he said it to a policeman out the window of his car, which he was driving whilst drunk. The one party republic agenda continues and progresses insidiously. I wonder if Thais are ever taught at school, in biology, one of the lessons about the frog! If you drop a frog into a pan of boiling water it will jump back out immediately, however, if you put a frog into a pan of cold water and then slowly bring the water to the boil, the frog will remain there, totally unaware of its dangerous predicament until it meets its demise! Love this quote ... "Chalerm Yoobamrung said police would handle the cases without discrimination" Which means the exact opposite. Usually with extreme prejudice if Chalerm has anything to do with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) Scientific Crime Detection officials collected evidence allegedly found in Somsamai's truck. It included CDs, a water bottle and metal pieces that looked like parts of tear-gas canisters. Brilliant piece of detective work - "evidence". A driver who listens to CD's, has water to slake his thirst and pieces of tear gas canisters, probably what pissed him off enough to drive his truck into the barricade in the first place. Remember constable plod, Police fired first! Edited November 27, 2012 by asiawatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiameseCurios Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 They should be careful where they go with these treason charges. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. Indeed. Too many sheep followers forget that the reds were calling for the overthrow of a legitimate government in 2010 And for the destruction of Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Treason? What should we call the event of 2009 and 2010 then? A picnic? What should justice do with the masterminds of the 2009 and 2010 events? oh wait, we know already....Nothing, this is how double standard works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozfromoz Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The General and his colleauges shouldnt have too much to worry about. After all, the prisons here are bursting at the seams with low occupancy rates with all of the other top end criminals, that have not either been charged, or gaoled. It will just tie up resources for a "feel good" for the govt, and take away those folks from other priorities, which are.....................i'll get back to you on that when i figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferangled Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Chalerm said the Internal Security Act (ISA) is expected to be lifted today. Can someone please take the drink out of his hand and tell him it was already lifted yesterday? . So quick to jump on any perceived wrong you can... exactly who's been drinking Buchholz?! Clearly this statement was made yesterday, so he was quite correct in what he said. Look at the time of the OP, do you really think Chalerm was up giving interviews hours before 5:56 in the morning, giving the Nation time to type it up and get it to press...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 A Pheu Thai Party MP yesterday lodged a police complaint accusing Pitak Siam group leaders of treason in connection with Saturday's anti-government rally We really have to thank the government and their main party MPs for the reconciliatory approach to Pitak Siam. First 137 protesters released without bail (but after having been charged) and now this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Why can't they just be content that the protest fizzled out and they went home? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonclark Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) Why can't they just be content that the protest fizzled out and they went home? Because reconciliation first demands that you conquer, defeat and humiliate your opponents, right? Edited November 27, 2012 by jonclark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Why can't they just be content that the protest fizzled out and they went home? Because reconciliation first demands that you conquer, defeat and humiliate your opponents, right? Strange trait isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ferangled Posted November 27, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 27, 2012 A Pheu Thai Party MP yesterday lodged a police complaint accusing Pitak Siam group leaders of treason in connection with Saturday's anti-government rally We really have to thank the government and their main party MPs for the reconciliatory approach to Pitak Siam. First 137 protesters released without bail (but after having been charged) and now this. Yes when TVs finest believed they released them without charge they criticise the Government for falsifying the arrests and when they release them without bail but charge them for their offences it's seen as being anti reconciliation... "I wonder if they were arrestable offences, given that 99% of them have been released with no charge." "It seems like the arrests by the Police were just token gestures on trivial offences,otherwise why did the police let 137 free,without charging them?" "My highlighting was for emphasis,that whatever cooked up charges had been applied by the Police,was not enough to get a conviction,in other words trivial offences,and not worth the risk of being shown up in Court as nonsense charges! hence the release of 137 arrested.....without charge." "There wasn't enough evidence to prosecute the individuals that were arrested" Damned if you and damned if you don't! When any and every action is so readily twisted by those with an agenda what hope is there for any reconciliation in this country? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 ^ $20 ferangred: 'when TV finest believe them to be released without charge'. I'm in a good mood this morning but I still find it difficult to include our dear member ferangred in the group of 'finest'. Mind you he wrote "I'm guessing you are about to post a congratulatory message to the current Government and the police, for putting reconciliation first rather than dragging them through the court system and furthering the divide?" http://www.thaivisa....25#entry5881125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 A Pheu Thai Party MP yesterday lodged a police complaint accusing Pitak Siam group leaders of treason in connection with Saturday's anti-government rally We really have to thank the government and their main party MPs for the reconciliatory approach to Pitak Siam. First 137 protesters released without bail (but after having been charged) and now this. If I was a betting man, I would take short odds that the PTP MP was both a party list appointee, and a redshirt with outstanding charges. Because the universe may not be infinite, but human stupidity certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozfromoz Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Why can't they just be content that the protest fizzled out and they went home? Because reconciliation first demands that you conquer, defeat and humiliate your opponents, right? Strange trait isn't it. Sinking the boot in I think it's called. They are pretty good at that here I have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 For the only time in my life I must admit to being greatly impressed by the efficiency and rapid reaction by which the police have processed all those arrested. Copious information and evidence collected and all processed in record time. Pity they could not have done the same in the Red Bull driver case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Chalerm said the Internal Security Act (ISA) is expected to be lifted today. Can someone please take the drink out of his hand and tell him it was already lifted yesterday? . He dont read too good. Eye medication me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Was the man in Dubai ever charged with treason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Chalerm said the Internal Security Act (ISA) is expected to be lifted today. Can someone please take the drink out of his hand and tell him it was already lifted yesterday? . It was ear medicine, not a drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOODLOVER Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I will try to overcome my deficient writing skills and English usage. I am from Texas. That certainly explains a great deal. Just a suggestion that those living in glass houses refrain from throwing rocks... So wise, I will try to overcome my deficient writing skills and English usage. I am from Texas. That certainly explains a great deal. Just a suggestion that those living in glass houses refrain from throwing rocks... What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Inflammatory posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 They should be careful where they go with these treason charges. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. Indeed. Too many sheep followers forget that the reds were calling for the overthrow of a legitimate government in 2010 What legitimate government? certainly not the Thai one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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