keemapoot Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Great weekend for modern world culture, Led Zep honored by Obama: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 They made some great music in their day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 That is a big statement to say they were the best altho i would say they were one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Robert Plants touring Australia soon also Deep Purples doing a tour soon. Couple good shows to check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 They were a great band indeed, but IMO, the Beatles were a better rock band and the Rolling Stones were a better hard rock band. I would call Led Zeppelin the greatest heavy metal band of all times and probably the 3rd best rock band of all time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 They were a great band indeed, but IMO, the Beatles were a better rock band and the Rolling Stones were a better hard rock band. I would call Led Zeppelin the greatest heavy metal band of all times and probably the 3rd best rock band of all time. A friend of mine was one of the most famous Rock promoters in the USA. He handled and knew every band. His house was like a rock museum with signed electric guitars and gold records on all the walls. In his opinion, The Who were the best rock band of all time, and were the best performers with the best show of all rock bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 They were a great band indeed, but IMO, the Beatles were a better rock band and the Rolling Stones were a better hard rock band. I would call Led Zeppelin the greatest heavy metal band of all times and probably the 3rd best rock band of all time. A friend of mine was one of the most famous Rock promoters in the USA. He handled and knew every band. His house was like a rock museum with signed electric guitars and gold records on all the walls. In his opinion, The Who were the best rock band of all time, and were the best performers with the best show of all rock bands. In the eye of the beholder I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Led Zepp. Timeless genius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Jimmy Page aged 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutsiwarrior Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 led zeppelin were like jimi hendrix in that they opened a new dimension (heavy metal) while staying with rock music's traditional roots in the blues... I'm not a big fan of heavy metal but I still like to shout like Robert Plant in the intro to 'I can't quit you, babe'... (tutsi stands up and hollers with post-coital exuberance while his paramour cowers under the covers...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watutsi Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 From someone who should know better it seems you are just playing with words.There is of course no "best rock band ever"but to describe the Beatles as the best seems to be missing the point .They are probably the most important and innovative band of rock but they were never a great performance band.The subjective title of" best rock band ever" should go to a LIVE band that totally blew you into another dimension,[drugs or not] So just of the top of my head i would suggest Cream ; MC5 ; Led Zepplin ; Motorhead ; The Clash ; The Ramones etc. My choice would be Cream but i wouldn't be that dogmatic about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watutsi Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Sorry the above post was referring to Ulysses G but the quote button did not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutsiwarrior Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) performers as opposed to artists?...performing artists? artistic performers...oh, well... I was fortunate and saw a lot of shows in the late 60's and early 70's but never did see led zep, the Doors or jimmi hendrix...jimi and jim morrison weren't around for very long, unfortunately... but if ever I have the chance to sell my soul I'd trade it to be in the audience during the live performance of Crossroads on Cream's Wheels of Fire album...every note of the mad guitar solo is etched in by brain somehow...if you listen carefully they were all mad in that recording... later, when I catch up with Robert Johnson in hell we'll have a lot to discuss... Edited December 11, 2012 by tutsiwarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) The title of the thread refers to the best rock band - not the best live band - and the most important and the most innovative goes a long way in that direction, but I did add a IMO (in my opinion). Actually the best live band that I ever saw was Jefferson Starship when they were not a real band, but more like Jefferson Airplane with a bunch of friends doing a strange space opera. Later they morphed into a pop band and went downhill. I never got to see Led Zepplin live, but have no doubt that they would have been amazing. Edited December 11, 2012 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneyboy Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 And Bob Dylan is just legendary. Bob Dylan and The Hawks 1966 http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n-jgQexXg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 The title of the thread refers to the best rock band - not the best live band - and the most important and the most innovative goes a long way in that direction, but I did add a IMO (in my opinion). Actually the best live band that I ever saw was Jefferson Starship when they were not a real band, but more like Jefferson Airplane with a bunch of friends doing a strange space opera. Later they morphed into a pop band and went downhill. I never got to see Led Zepplin live, but have no doubt that they would have been amazing. I never got to see Led Zepplin live, but have no doubt that they would have been amazing. Amazing doesnt do them justice, however on their last tour 1980, they were nothing but a pale imitation of their former selves. Agree about JS V JA, JA and Hot Tuna, now that what I am talking about, jamming. Also agree with TW, Cream could do it in the studio and on stage, ask yourself why The Beatles never toured with SP, because they couldnt recreate it on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 They were a great band indeed, but IMO, the Beatles were a better rock band and the Rolling Stones were a better hard rock band. I would call Led Zeppelin the greatest heavy metal band of all times and probably the 3rd best rock band of all time. A friend of mine was one of the most famous Rock promoters in the USA. He handled and knew every band. His house was like a rock museum with signed electric guitars and gold records on all the walls. In his opinion, The Who were the best rock band of all time, and were the best performers with the best show of all rock bands. In the eye of the beholder I say. I suppose you could say that, but that guy had booked, worked with, and seen every important band from the Beatles in the 60s to the early 90s, or so. But I suppose he was referring to "live" performances mostly. I always enjoy reading lists from experts of who the best rock band of all time was, or is. Personally, I'm a Stevie Ray Vaughan fan and also I do love early Cream as was mentioned. Clapton was such a brilliant guitar player who sadly morphed into a pop star. Another of my all-time favorites is Mark Knopfler, and a case could be made for Dire Straits in their heyday, though he was older by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 They were a great band indeed, but IMO, the Beatles were a better rock band and the Rolling Stones were a better hard rock band. I would call Led Zeppelin the greatest heavy metal band of all times and probably the 3rd best rock band of all time. A friend of mine was one of the most famous Rock promoters in the USA. He handled and knew every band. His house was like a rock museum with signed electric guitars and gold records on all the walls. In his opinion, The Who were the best rock band of all time, and were the best performers with the best show of all rock bands. In the eye of the beholder I say. I suppose you could say that, but that guy had booked, worked with, and seen every important band from the Beatles in the 60s to the early 90s, or so. But I suppose he was referring to "live" performances mostly. I always enjoy reading lists from experts of who the best rock band of all time was, or is. Personally, I'm a Stevie Ray Vaughan fan and also I do love early Cream as was mentioned. Clapton was such a brilliant guitar player who sadly morphed into a pop star. Another of my all-time favorites is Mark Knopfler, and a case could be made for Dire Straits in their heyday, though he was older by then. Clapton was such a brilliant guitar player who sadly morphed into a pop star. Excellent, always good to talk with another of the same opinion, IMHO Clapton did nothing after D&TD, I never understood why he swapt a Gibson for a Fender, his whole tone went to shit, but thats only my opinion. Listen to this, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionluke Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) hrer'sone for RG I should say rgs2001uk . Edited December 11, 2012 by onionluke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watutsi Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Yeah, Eric Clapton is rated #4 greatest guitarist of all time on Rolling Stone's top 100 list. That is purely because of his iconic work with Cream, I'm sure. Jimmy Paige of Led Zep is listed at #9, which i feel is too low. Duane Allman is #2 behind the guitar God Hendrix, which I agree with. Keith Richard is #10 (don't agree), and Knopfler is #27 (also too low). However, it's interesting that of the top 30 guitarists, there were only 4 in the arguably best bands of all time: Harrison - Beatles, Paige - Zepp, Richards-Stones, and Knopfler - Dire Straits. (Unless you include Allman bros, the Dead, and a few others on that list). http://www.hotguitarist.com/guitar_artists/guitar_players.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Never mind all this West Coast hippy BS, listen to some Lou and The VU, tell it like it is, the original punk, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionluke Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 having a good time he i saw nyo open my eye i saw you through the dancin' cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionluke Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 nyah fearties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutsiwarrior Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) recently in saudi I was riding into work one morning with a colleague that had Derek and the Dominos on the car stereo and a lot of it sounded unfamiliar as I had never associated Eric Clapton with slide guitar virtuosity...and I thought: 'Duane Allman?...' my colleague is an old <deleted> like me, over 60, old and fat with health problems and when I queried he was incredulous: 'it's fookin' Clapton with Derek and the Dominos!...' in his broad yorkshire accent... he then increased the volume significantly and soon we were racing thru the desert at 160kph...I don't think that he ever heard of the Allman Brothers Band... Edited December 11, 2012 by tutsiwarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Spinal Tap. Failing that .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 recently in saudi I was riding into work one morning with a colleague that had Derek and the Dominos on the car stereo and a lot of it sounded unfamiliar as I had never associated Eric Clapton with slide guitar virtuosity...and I thought: 'Duane Allman?...' my colleague is an old <deleted> like me, over 60, old and fat with health problems and when I queried he was incredulous: 'it's fookin' Clapton with Derek and the Dominos!...' in his broad yorkshire accent... he then increased the volume significantly and soon we were racing thru the desert at 160kph...I don't think that he ever heard of the Allman Brothers Band... .I don't think that he ever heard of the Allman Brothers Band. Good Gawd Tutsi thats almost a hanging offence, never heard of The Allmans, probably the only excuse he has is being from Yorkshire. Its your solemn duty to introduce him to such albums as Bros & Sisters and Live at the Fillmore. Try this to be going on with, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutsiwarrior Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) well...I got a problem with southerners...just like they got a problem with us west coast folks...I sorta lump them together with Lynyrd Skynyrd and fake good 'ol boys with a lot of howling and confederate flag waving... to Johnny Winter: 'ain't it good enough to be a talented albino guitarist without bein' a texan albino guitarist?...' and I was born in Nashville and even had a texan girlfriend and goddam was she proud of bein' from Texas...she was a smart gal but not smart enough and horribly affected and professed to not like popular music...didn't even know who Johnny Winter was...but we did like a lot of the same books and films... (cough,splutter...) Edited December 12, 2012 by tutsiwarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooEng Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's all a matter or opinion. And in my humble opinion they were THE best rock band by a country mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keemapoot Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 It's all a matter or opinion. And in my humble opinion they were THE best rock band by a country mile. Yeah, and the reason I posted the original video was to inform about their being awarded the eminently prestigious Kennedy Center honors. This is an elite club of those who have contributed to American culture. [The Kennedy Center Honors is an annual honor given to those in the performing arts for their lifetime of contributions to American culture]. One does not expect to find Rock bands as honorees. The few Brits who have won in the past: Paul McCartney, Peter Townsend/Roger Daltry (The Who), Julie Andrews, & Andrew Lloyd Webber. So, this is an elite club, especially for non-Americans, and as you can see, even more so for Rockers, as only the Beatles, The Who and Led Zep are represented. So, this represents an interesting and important argument to their place in history as the arguably best rock band ever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Center_Honors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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