I'm not near a loser. You asked me this, "Yes, that was hundreds of years ago, and all those countries moved on to civilization. Just one didn't. Make a wild guess". I listed 5. if you're referring to America not being civilized because it has a lot of gun violence, you obviously are going by videos and some news, and have never lived there, as I did 62 years and visit yearly, along with hundreds of family and friends still there, none of whom experienced any gun violence and even seen it happening. Links............https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country.I lived in and around large cities, was out and around daily, sold guns for years, worked in NYC, and never saw any violence besides fist fights. Most gun violence in America is what I listed. Suicides, gangs and domestic. I'm thinking you haven't a clue how much gun violence goes on in Thailand alone,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Thailand let alone many other countries that are listed ahead of America in violence stats.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate ..............https://ocindex.net/rankings?f=rankings&view=List.
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