eek Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Could really do with some help with how to insert SEO keywords into a document. If anyone has the know-how and willing to pm me to help a bit, would be very appreciated. Thank you kindly!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushdepth Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 A healthy dose of scepticism is warranted with the PMs you will receive. Just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 What do you mean by SEO keywords? Keywords are just keywords. There's no such thing as SEO keywords. Just write the document like it should be written. There isn't any need for special words. Make sure you don't pay someone to pretend they added SEO keywords. Anyway, what kind of document is it, and what website is it going on, and why do you think you need SEO keywords (whatever they are)? I have a feeling someone has misled you, or you have misunderstood something about SEO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave111223 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) If the article is about the topic/site that you are trying to promote then fitting the keywords into the article will be very easy. Just make a list of the keywords that want to use in the article, then as you are writing just insert each of the keywords from the list where is naturally fits. If your article has nothing to do with the topic you are trying to promote; a spam article (ie trying to promote the keywords "Boxing gloves" in an article about my little pony) it's going to be very difficult to make the article appear sincere. Edited March 5, 2013 by dave111223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Sup Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Use google adwords to figure out the value of the keywords you need. Don't "stuff" the content with more than three of the words. Begin and end the article with one of them. Write 300 to 500 words for the article. Then again, you can always go black hat.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) Use google adwords to figure out the value of the keywords you need. Don't "stuff" the content with more than three of the words. Begin and end the article with one of them. Write 300 to 500 words for the article. Then again, you can always go black hat.... That is such bad advice. You won't get anywhere with a 300-500 word article, especially in a competitive niche. And all that about adding the words to beginning and end. LOL. Just check what's no.1 on Google for most topics, and you'll see that you're completely wrong. Trying to game Google is a recipe for disaster. Just write great articles that people will love. That's what it's all about, not writing a crappy article of a few hundred words and stuffing keywords in it. That may have worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. No need for black hat either. Adobe Reader is no.2 in google for 'click here', but those words don't appear anywhere on the page. So much for your theory. Back to SEO 101 for you. Edited March 5, 2013 by davejones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Sup Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Use google adwords to figure out the value of the keywords you need. Don't "stuff" the content with more than three of the words. Begin and end the article with one of them. Write 300 to 500 words for the article. Then again, you can always go black hat.... That is such bad advice. You won't get anywhere with a 300-500 word article, especially in a competitive niche. And all that about adding the words to beginning and end. LOL. Just check what's no.1 on Google for most topics, and you'll see that you're completely wrong. Trying to game Google is a recipe for disaster. Just write great articles that people will love. That's what it's all about, not writing a crappy article of a few hundred words and stuffing keywords in it. That may have worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. No need for black hat either. Adobe Reader is no.2 in google for 'click here', but those words don't appear anywhere on the page. So much for your theory. Back to SEO 101 for you. If you disagree that's okay, but why make it personal? I'm on the first page of Google, and I do it all above board. Maybe I know what I am doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Use google adwords to figure out the value of the keywords you need. Don't "stuff" the content with more than three of the words. Begin and end the article with one of them. Write 300 to 500 words for the article. Then again, you can always go black hat.... That is such bad advice. You won't get anywhere with a 300-500 word article, especially in a competitive niche. And all that about adding the words to beginning and end. LOL. Just check what's no.1 on Google for most topics, and you'll see that you're completely wrong. Trying to game Google is a recipe for disaster. Just write great articles that people will love. That's what it's all about, not writing a crappy article of a few hundred words and stuffing keywords in it. That may have worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. No need for black hat either. Adobe Reader is no.2 in google for 'click here', but those words don't appear anywhere on the page. So much for your theory. Back to SEO 101 for you. If you disagree that's okay, but why make it personal? I'm on the first page of Google, and I do it all above board. Maybe I know what I am doing. It's not personal. I just don't think you should be giving out bad advice like this. Plenty of people are on page 1 of Google, but they are there for a variety of reasons. Plenty use the nonsense SEO you talk about, and they are nowhere near page 1. You advice is just plain bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Sup Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Use google adwords to figure out the value of the keywords you need. Don't "stuff" the content with more than three of the words. Begin and end the article with one of them. Write 300 to 500 words for the article. Then again, you can always go black hat.... That is such bad advice. You won't get anywhere with a 300-500 word article, especially in a competitive niche. And all that about adding the words to beginning and end. LOL. Just check what's no.1 on Google for most topics, and you'll see that you're completely wrong. Trying to game Google is a recipe for disaster. Just write great articles that people will love. That's what it's all about, not writing a crappy article of a few hundred words and stuffing keywords in it. That may have worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. No need for black hat either. Adobe Reader is no.2 in google for 'click here', but those words don't appear anywhere on the page. So much for your theory. Back to SEO 101 for you. If you disagree that's okay, but why make it personal? I'm on the first page of Google, and I do it all above board. Maybe I know what I am doing. It's not personal. I just don't think you should be giving out bad advice like this. Plenty of people are on page 1 of Google, but they are there for a variety of reasons. Plenty use the nonsense SEO you talk about, and they are nowhere near page 1. You advice is just plain bad. Did you not take your meds today? If you don't like the advice, pass on it. If you feel the need to denigrate people, grow up. Get some therapy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemoncake Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Odesk,com is where you find what you need and have a huge choice to chose from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Yo Sup - LOL. You're too sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Sup Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Yo Sup - LOL. You're too sensitive. Davejones - LOL. You're abusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Yo Sup - LOL. You're too sensitive. Davejones - LOL. You're abusive. Perhaps you can explain why pointing out that your advice is wrong is abusive? Wrong advice should be pointed out so that others don't waste their time by following it. That's being helpful to others, not abusive. You are way too sensitive. Get over it. Edited March 6, 2013 by davejones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yo Sup Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Yo Sup - LOL. You're too sensitive. Davejones - LOL. You're abusive. Perhaps you can explain why pointing out that your advice is wrong is abusive? Wrong advice should be pointed out so that others don't waste their time by following it. That's being helpful to others, not abusive. You are way too sensitive. Get over it. It is simply your opinion that my advice is wrong, and you made it personal by saying "that's such bad advice" and "back to SEO 101 for you". You should have, or could have, said; "that's one way to do it, here are some others..." You don't even post anything about how SEO should be done, you just find fault and attack. Since I have owned business in NYC and SF, and now on the internet, I'm not sensitive at all. You can't be sensitive, and survive in those environments. Also, I have had many employees and have learned to watch comments and behaviors, because they say a lot about a persons mental state... If your such an SEO expert, why don't you share in your knowledge? Maybe your in the SEO business and you want to attract a client...? I don't have anymore time for child's play. Get on with your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davejones Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Yo Sup - LOL. You're too sensitive. Davejones - LOL. You're abusive. Perhaps you can explain why pointing out that your advice is wrong is abusive? Wrong advice should be pointed out so that others don't waste their time by following it. That's being helpful to others, not abusive. You are way too sensitive. Get over it. It is simply your opinion that my advice is wrong, and you made it personal by saying "that's such bad advice" and "back to SEO 101 for you". You should have, or could have, said; "that's one way to do it, here are some others..." You don't even post anything about how SEO should be done, you just find fault and attack. Since I have owned business in NYC and SF, and now on the internet, I'm not sensitive at all. You can't be sensitive, and survive in those environments. Also, I have had many employees and have learned to watch comments and behaviors, because they say a lot about a persons mental state... If your such an SEO expert, why don't you share in your knowledge? Maybe your in the SEO business and you want to attract a client...? I don't have anymore time for child's play. Get on with your life. If you read my comments you would have seen my advice. So no point saying I didn't give advice when I did. Last post from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 What do you mean by SEO keywords? Keywords are just keywords. There's no such thing as SEO keywords. That isn't true. But you are right that the impact of using targeted keywords is not as high as people think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candypants Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 oh yeah? what about this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordWill Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Eek you have no idea what you have started here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordWill Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Use google adwords to figure out the value of the keywords you need. Don't "stuff" the content with more than three of the words. Begin and end the article with one of them. Write 300 to 500 words for the article. Then again, you can always go black hat.... That is such bad advice. You won't get anywhere with a 300-500 word article, especially in a competitive niche. And all that about adding the words to beginning and end. LOL. Just check what's no.1 on Google for most topics, and you'll see that you're completely wrong. Trying to game Google is a recipe for disaster. Just write great articles that people will love. That's what it's all about, not writing a crappy article of a few hundred words and stuffing keywords in it. That may have worked 10 years ago, but it doesn't now. No need for black hat either. Adobe Reader is no.2 in google for 'click here', but those words don't appear anywhere on the page. So much for your theory. Back to SEO 101 for you. So, your SEO advice is to not do any SEO. How much do you usually charge for that consultation? Maybe I should switch industries. Edited March 6, 2013 by OxfordWill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 @eek don't rely on self-proclamed SEO gurus. read this and you will know almost everything you can do by yourself to improve on-site SEO: http://www.seomoz.org/beginners-guide-to-seo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 oh yeah? what about this? Frankly that looks like a Virgin in flight meal. Did you cook it yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eek Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 Thanks for the info/advice guys, very appreciated. Didn't aim to be the instigate of squabbling Sorry about that! I believe i have the SEO thing sussed now. Thanks a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkmick Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Eek...make sure that you have well written title tags and meta descriptions as well as good content in the page. (think that the meta keyword tag is out dated now). If you are using WordPress then you can use the plugin called SEO Ultimate to help create the essential SEO components. Back links are necessary but there many various ways to get these. SEO is such a grey area that everybody has a different view (as shown above). Just keep it all white hat and you'll get there in the end. Good luck. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crushdepth Posted March 7, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Here's some sane advice on SEO from Google. Note the first three points: Be wary of SEO firms and web consultants or agencies that send you email out of the blue.No one can guarantee a #1 ranking on Google. Be careful if a company is secretive or won't clearly explain what they intend to do. Most "SEO consultants" are cranks and charlatans. Edited March 7, 2013 by Crushdepth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Thai Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 What do you mean by SEO keywords? Keywords are just keywords. There's no such thing as SEO keywords. That isn't true. But you are right that the impact of using targeted keywords is not as high as people think. Ah, Pie charts. Something to give a manager on a doc. Because he/she likes diagrams with lots of shiny colours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRS1 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) I made a big post about SEO tricks but it got screwed up by the new TV system. oh well, it was good i use to be a Google search engine evaluator,. Edited March 8, 2013 by KRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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