zakmak Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hi Kaz, The milky stops growing during cold season. This is my first corp of the milky and a new specie from china, the big cup mushroom (clitocybe maxima). I am from Klung, Chantaburi. You may come to learn growing the milky any time you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakmak Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Thank you Khun Packdee, I guess the growing season could be extended with solar heated polytunnel or other similar arrangements , but the lack of established market is another obstacle. What other species do you grow? Yes I would like to go and learn from you thank you, i will contact you about it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Packdee Posted February 12, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2014 zakmak Milky mushroom is new for Thailand, It originally comes from India.It is the third popular mushroom in India. Last year got the culture from a friend in the Philippines.IsaanAussie is the first in Thailand who commercially grows this mushroom. It takes time to make Thais to familiar to this mushroom.The price I get here is about 20 Baths higher than straw mushroom. Any farm waste from plant can be used as substrate for growing the milky. Now I am doing experiment to reduce cost by using lime soaked pasteurization technique.Once when we can sell milky mushroom cheaper than straw mushroom, we will conquer the mushroom market. I am doing experiment on another mushroom, the bamboo mushroom.This mushroom is popular in Chinese dishes. Thais love to order bamboo tissue soup.They understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China.In fact it is mushroom growing all over the places in Chantaburi when I was young.Chinese keep secret not allow Thai to know that it is mushroom. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakmak Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wow, that looks awesome! As soon as I figure out how I can send you a pm here I will contact you about visiting you. Maybe as soon as this Friday if it works for you and my wife agrees too :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Bamboo tissue soup. (99.9% of Thais understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China) Dry mushroom before cooking.(Look like bleaching chemically treated mushroom) Sun drying the mushroom. Collecting wild mushroom. Cultivating bamboo mushroom during summer in China. (In Thailand this mushroom can be grown the whole year round.) Photos credit : https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E5%9F%B9%E8%82%B2+%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ub_7UtOFM43PkwWgkoG4Bg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=768 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Bamboo mushroom eggs in Chinese dishes. Photo credit: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA%E8%9B%8B&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Z1_8UpGCOIKkiQe7uoGYAQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=768 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 ฺBamboo mushroom is in the same genus with stinkhorn and zombie hand mushroom. The Chinese believe that eating eggs of this mushroom will help boost a sex drive.Thai beleive that paying respect to this mushroom will help to win lottery. Photo credit http://lottery.kapook.com/view41773.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullHorn Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 zakmak Milky mushroom is new for Thailand, It originally comes from India. It is the third popular mushroom in India. Last year got the culture from a friend in the Philippines. IsaanAussie is the first in Thailand who commercially grows this mushroom. It takes time to make Thais to familiar to this mushroom. The price I get here is about 20 Baths higher than straw mushroom. Any farm waste from plant can be used as substrate for growing the milky. Now I am doing experiment to reduce cost by using lime soaked pasteurization technique. Once when we can sell milky mushroom cheaper than straw mushroom, we will conquer the mushroom market. I am doing experiment on another mushroom, the bamboo mushroom. This mushroom is popular in Chinese dishes. Thais love to order bamboo tissue soup. They understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China. In fact it is mushroom growing all over the places in Chantaburi when I was young. Chinese keep secret not allow Thai to know that it is mushroom. Bamboo tissue soup. (99.9% of Thais understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China) Dry mushroom before cooking.(Look like bleaching chemically treated mushroom) Sun drying the mushroom. Collecting wild mushroom. Cultivating bamboo mushroom during summer in China. (In Thailand this mushroom can be grown the whole year round.) Photos credit : https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E5%9F%B9%E8%82%B2+%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ub_7UtOFM43PkwWgkoG4Bg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=768 Bamboo mushroom eggs in Chinese dishes. Photo credit: https://www.google.co.th/search?q=%E7%AB%B9%E8%8D%AA%E8%9B%8B&newwindow=1&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Z1_8UpGCOIKkiQe7uoGYAQ&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=768 It is "same same" with Thais...Thai will never tell another Thai where he/she found the valuable Had Khun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA1 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 For those interested in growing different mushrooms and have been reading about Col. Packdee's expertise look at the Thread "Isaan Farmers Meeting No. 10" as we are organising a meeting at his mushroom business at the end of March! Do get in touch if you are interesting in joining us by contacting us on the "Isaan Farmers Meeting No. 10" Thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soidog2 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Khun Packdee! Last year I found this growing in my cassava field here in Buriram. Looks like a yellow relative of your bamboo mushroom. Do you know anything about it, is it edible ? Thank you zakmak Milky mushroom is new for Thailand, It originally comes from India. It is the third popular mushroom in India. Last year got the culture from a friend in the Philippines. IsaanAussie is the first in Thailand who commercially grows this mushroom. It takes time to make Thais to familiar to this mushroom. The price I get here is about 20 Baths higher than straw mushroom. Any farm waste from plant can be used as substrate for growing the milky. Now I am doing experiment to reduce cost by using lime soaked pasteurization technique. Once when we can sell milky mushroom cheaper than straw mushroom, we will conquer the mushroom market. I am doing experiment on another mushroom, the bamboo mushroom. This mushroom is popular in Chinese dishes. Thais love to order bamboo tissue soup. They understand that it is bamboo tissue imported from China. In fact it is mushroom growing all over the places in Chantaburi when I was young. Chinese keep secret not allow Thai to know that it is mushroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I found that the milky mushroom can produce fruit without casing. With casing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basoan Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hello everybody, I work in a familiar wild mushroom company in Spain and Im so interested in the commercial aspect of milky mushroom. We do trade with a same generous mushroom (Calocybe gambosa) and I would like to know if it does have similar features like strong flour smell and strong taste. Since I saw milky mushroom video in youtube, I have been looking for the possibility of seen with my own eyes this mushroom and think about possibilities of inporting it, but I havent find any company who can produce it. If any of you thinks that can help me in this aim, please let me know, I wouldn´t mind to travel anywhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 We use micro-bag technique to grow the milky mushroom with rich supplement.The mushroom tastes half chicken and half squid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfrunes Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 how is everyone doing with their bags bought during IFM#10? 5th day in for me and still waiting. Have 2 noob questions to ask thou... what does EM and LAB mean? sorry for being dense.... have zero knowledge on farming / growing mushrooms and am trying to read up on it as much as possible currently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revar Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Mine are in. Their private greenhouses:) EM is the brand name Idaho micro-organism culture which improves soil, intestinal Flora for pigs, fertilizer, etc. Sent from my i-mobile i-style 7.1 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) EM = Effective Microorganismhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_microorganismLAB = Lactic Acid Bacteriahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactic_acid_bacteriaOne who want to start growing mushroom can learn from this paper.http://www.fao.org/docrep/004/ab497e/ab497e07.htmTV members who joined IFM#10 can come to get free training at Colonel's Farm anytime. Today I tested my electric pasteurizer, it worked well.If my presupposition, to germinate spores then kill pathogen at 62 - 70 degrees C, is correct,growing mushroom for the beginner will be easier. Edited April 5, 2014 by Packdee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfrunes Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thank you revar and col packdee. Waiting for my FIL to finish his current job before fixing the dates to visit your farm for training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Packdee Posted April 6, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2014 Casing DIY kit.Container can be a pot, basket, bucket, or large size plastic bag. Limit some opening at the bottom, just for draining excessive water. Peel out plastic bag and place the fully colonized substrate into the pot. Fill the gaps. Press hard by hand. Top with pot soil (60 - 75% moisture), 1 - 2 inches thick (thinner more fruit but smaller, thicker lesser fruit but larger. Keep cased pot in a chamber that can keep humidity high. It takes ten days or more to have the first pinhead.After seeing pinheads, partially open the plastic cover for air circulation, spray water on casing to keep moisture high but not wet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfrunes Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) Day 1 @31st Mar Day 9? @9th Apr Am I doing the casing correctly? In the 2nd pic.. Correct type of "mould"? *** My apologies for the lack of definition in my pics.. Do not have a proper camera on hand =.= Edited April 9, 2014 by wolfrunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 If the 2nd pic looks like this, it is a cluster of pinheads. But finally only one or two fruits will grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancealot Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Thanks, Packdee, done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfrunes Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Thank you Col Packdee. Yes, it looks like the clusters pic that you showed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 After casing about 10 days to two weeks, pinheads start to form. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdrk7 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Good work Col Pakdee . This is what we need . Some of us here could only read information in english . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Packdee Posted April 23, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2014 Five days later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Day 6th. Cock cage and plastic sheet keeps high humidity inside, wet jute sack on the floor provides moisture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surat04 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 If you can access BBC iplayer you guys might enjoy "The Magic of Mushrooms" http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b041m6fh/The_Magic_of_Mushrooms/ I just watched it using Firefox browser with Media Hint extention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfrunes Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 A very funny growth of milky mushroom. No idea why did it decide to bend over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packdee Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 @wolfrunes Lack of ventilation. The milky needs good air circulation, high temperature (28 - 35 degrees C), high humidity (85 - 90% RH) around the fruit (if the mushroom get wet directly, it will turn to brown) (Close up photo) From this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepcell Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 WOW! superb! I had never seen such big ones like this! The Tricholoma Crassum, a native Thai mushroom, can be large to the size of banana trunk.This mushroom tastes better the milky mushroom but it take much longer time to get the fruiting. The grain spawn in plastic bag (500 gram) or bottle (175-200 gram) are also available.Free mushroom cultivation training fee for guest who stay at my Farm Stay. My location: 15° 2'4.67"N, 101°24'44.30"E 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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