Brand new coilovers angle grinded!

misterphil · July 6, 2013

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

If spacers are required offset is not correct..Yes, you should have said chai krap.. Spacers can solve it now but shouldn't have been necessary if offset was compatible.. Spacers may now cause other issues like lugs being too short not giving enough safe thread bite, center caps not fitting properly, fender rubbing, etc..

If spacers are required only on one wheel that means the steering and suspension geometry is out of alignment and needs adjusting.

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

If spacers are required offset is not correct..Yes, you should have said chai krap.. Spacers can solve it now but shouldn't have been necessary if offset was compatible.. Spacers may now cause other issues like lugs being too short not giving enough safe thread bite, center caps not fitting properly, fender rubbing, etc..

Went back to the shop and I was ignored by the boss, spacers have been put on the front wheels, I am now at Manit Center having a new tire at my expense no doubt, Manit are adjusting the front camber as the original shop did not do it correctly, as I said before I noticed more camber had been applied to the front near side which has caused the problem!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

If spacers are required offset is not correct..Yes, you should have said chai krap.. Spacers can solve it now but shouldn't have been necessary if offset was compatible.. Spacers may now cause other issues like lugs being too short not giving enough safe thread bite, center caps not fitting properly, fender rubbing, etc..

If spacers are required only on one wheel that means the steering geometry is out of alignment.

No the problem has been caused by not having the same amount of camber both sides, they just looked and thought it is okay!!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

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This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

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This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

This is <deleted> costing me over 4000฿ but what can I do, I don't want to get into an argument I will never win, best pay and walk away, never go back!! Oh I told Manit they had ignored me and the head mechanic said oh falang!!

misterphil · July 6, 2013

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

If spacers are required offset is not correct..Yes, you should have said chai krap.. Spacers can solve it now but shouldn't have been necessary if offset was compatible.. Spacers may now cause other issues like lugs being too short not giving enough safe thread bite, center caps not fitting properly, fender rubbing, etc..

Went back to the shop and I was ignored by the boss, spacers have been put on the front wheels, I am now at Manit Center having a new tire at my expense no doubt, Manit are adjusting the front camber as the original shop did not do it correctly, as I said before I noticed more camber had been applied to the front near side which has caused the problem!

Tell Manit Center to take the spacers off that cowboy Somchai fitted and get them to aligned the steering and suspension correctly. Now that the camber has been tampered with you now need to set everything else such as toe in and toe out. You cant just set one part, it all has to be done together. If you don't your tyres will wear un evenly and scrub off in no time.

hansgruber · July 6, 2013

No pics of coilovers? Im curious to see.

Loptr · July 6, 2013

Get some wheel spacers to offset the wheels out a bit from the hubs. I had the same problem and this worked the charm.

misterphil · July 6, 2013

It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

Perhaps the 17's you put on have the wrong offset?

This is what I think - assuming the coilovers are specific for the car. Perhaps spacers will move the wheels out slightly enough to have avoided grinding the coilover. which was pretty unprofessional of them. However moving the wheel out could cause the tire to strike on the wheel arches, especially in 17 guise. Is the OP using 205 or 215 tires? 205 is appropriate for 7", but 215 is better for 7.5". I had lowered suspension on my civic for a while but the rear negative camber was stuffing my tires.

The tires are 205x40x17 there is no problem with the tires rubbing the arches as the suspension is stiff, I should have mentioned that the rears have slight negative camber and are fine and look good, I wanted the fronts done, they said okay no problem, the front offside tire is fine, I did notice when I got home that there was more camber on the front near side, this is obviously the problem and the tire was up against the coilover causing loss of rubber, this can all be sorted out by using spacers, I asked them 3 times should spacers be used but they only said "you want" I should have said yes!!

If spacers are required offset is not correct..Yes, you should have said chai krap.. Spacers can solve it now but shouldn't have been necessary if offset was compatible.. Spacers may now cause other issues like lugs being too short not giving enough safe thread bite, center caps not fitting properly, fender rubbing, etc..

If spacers are required only on one wheel that means the steering geometry is out of alignment.

No the problem has been caused by not having the same amount of camber both sides, they just looked and thought it is okay!!

Steering geometry is camber, caster, toe in and toe out. But what do I know, only been doing this for 25 years. You cant just look and see if its OK it has to be set with the right equipment, also a competent person that knows how to use it.

highonthai · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

No pics of coilovers? Im curious to see.

I was just about to take some pictures but they are now out testing the car, I will post some of the car now it has been corrected, be gentle it is my pride and joy!!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

Get some wheel spacers to offset the wheels out a bit from the hubs. I had the same problem and this worked the charm.

Already done!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....

No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....
No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!

Okay this is my car which I love very stiff suspension and all, as I said be gentle. Lol

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....
No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!
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Okay this is my car which I love very stiff suspension and all, as I said be gentle. Lol

misterphil · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....
No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!

I told you it was the camber an hour ago.

misterphil · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....
No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!
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Okay this is my car which I love very stiff suspension and all, as I said be gentle. Lol

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Wheres the grind marks in the strut?

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....
No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!
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Okay this is my car which I love very stiff suspension and all, as I said be gentle. Lol

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Wheres the grind marks in the strut?

The Manit mechanics checked the coilover and it is only the surface paint that is missing, so all okay, Manit have set the camber to 3 degrees using the correct equipment, new tire at my cost but I feel safer, original shop manager has apologized for what has happend but not offered to pay for tire, anyway all good, Manit are excellent!!

misterphil · July 6, 2013

Wrong wheel offset....
No the wheels are correct, the problem has been with the camber, hopefully sorted now!
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ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373081110.650793.jpg

Okay this is my car which I love very stiff suspension and all, as I said be gentle. Lol

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Wheres the grind marks in the strut?

The Manit mechanics checked the coilover and it is only the surface paint that is missing, so all okay, Manit have set the camber to 3 degrees using the correct equipment, new tire at my cost but I feel safer, original shop manager has apologized for what has happend but not offered to pay for tire, anyway all good, Manit are excellent!!

Ok glad you got it sorted out.

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

Cheers to everyone who posted, I don't like my pride and joy being hurt!!

BSJ · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

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This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!
"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

Woodsie888 · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

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This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

Whilst not my cup of tea, I think you've made a nice job of it. Well done. Doesn't look like 3 degrees of camber though?

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?
For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

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This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

Whilst not my cup of tea, I think you've made a nice job of it. Well done. Doesn't look like 3 degrees of camber though?

Those picture are pre Manit adjustment!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?
For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

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This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

Whilst not my cup of tea, I think you've made a nice job of it. Well done. Doesn't look like 3 degrees of camber though?

Those picture are pre Manit adjustment!

I assume 3degrees is not a lot in the car Camber world?

Woodsie888 · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?
For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

Whilst not my cup of tea, I think you've made a nice job of it. Well done. Doesn't look like 3 degrees of camber though?

Those picture are pre Manit adjustment!

I assume 3degrees is not a lot in the car Camber world?

3 degrees is heaps

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?
For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!

"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Manit has! everything that was wrong has been rectified by Manit center, not happy that I had to pay for a new tire though, manager of first place said "okay to still use, no problem" so why didn't he answer my question, "would you use it with your family and friends in the car" no answer!!

Whilst not my cup of tea, I think you've made a nice job of it. Well done. Doesn't look like 3 degrees of camber though?

Those picture are pre Manit adjustment!

I assume 3degrees is not a lot in the car Camber world?

3 degrees is heaps

Shows you what I know! doesn't look a lot, but I am used to seeing cars with extreme camber!

dogpoo · July 6, 2013

To me it looks like there is more camber on the rear than the front, there are now spacers on the front so maybe that is why it looks different, Manit used the correct equipment to set the camber so I am happy, they did mention it was set at 4 degrees so they altered to 3 degrees all round?

misterphil · July 6, 2013

If you are only having a problem on one suspension strut catching the tyre, its more than likely that the camber or caster is set incorrectly. Other than that has the car been in an accident before? The camber is normally set by 2 bolts at the bottom of the strut where the wheel hub is fitted to it. If they changed your struts they have more than likely just threw it together without marking where the bolts were when they took it off. The only way for this to be set correctly is by using wheel alignment equipment such as techalemit and the like. These are either a frame that is fitted to the wheels and mirrors are used to check alignment, or there is a laser system that is used, you should be able to find this equipment in places like B quik and cock pit. I used to use this equipment in the UK on a daily basis before I started to work abroad and live here. Your car will have its own settings and degrees that need to be inputed in to the wheel alignment equipment before it can be aligned, not all cars suspension geometry is the same. Too much negative camber will cause your tyre to catch the strut. Is the tyre thats catching the strut wearing in correctly? Have a look at the tread pattern. Does the car pull to one side when you let go of the steering wheel?

For Som chai to grind away at the new coil over is just proof that he knows sweet FA about steering geometry and you should never take your car there again.

Send me the following pictures with the wheels straight. To make sure your wheels are straight accelerate forward and then put the car in neutral and free wheel to a stop, do not press the brake and don't touch the steering wheel.

1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.

2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car.

ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079034.827412.jpg ImageUploadedByThaivisa Connect Thailand1373079100.636269.jpg

This is all being done by Manit Center Max as we speak!
"1. Place camera on the floor 15 metres away from the front of the car.
2. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the LSF wheel. (Left Side Front)

3. Place camera on the floor 10 metres away from the RSF wheel. (Right Side Front)

4. Lets see the damage Som chai has done to your car."

I had a laugh at that! Not many workshops anywhere would have that much space to spare to be setting up cameras.

Why would you laugh at what I asked him to do? I wanted him to send me photos of the caster, camber and toe in and out steering and suspension geometry so I could see the problem. He didn't need to do that in a workshop he could of done it in a street or anywhere. Anyway I told him what was wrong with it before he took it back. Like I said in my first post to him, it sounds like the camber is set incorrectly. And what did Manit Center Max say where he took it to? The camber is set incorrectly, but what do I know? Only been doing this for 25 years.

WarpSpeed · July 6, 2013

What car is it? does it have origional factory wheels? replacements could be the problem wrong offset for coilovers you may end up having to run a set of wheel spacers or another set of wheels.
It's a nissan March which has been my project to make look better, the wheels are 17x7 the coilovers are specifically for the March so no problem there, they shouldn't have modified the coilovers without asking me first, we will see later this morning! yes I have already suggested spacers on the front!

There is no need to mention the name of the shop, I have been going to this place for 4yrs and have never had a problem until now, I am sure they will do the right thing!

Ermmm, they already failed to do the right thing..

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