Clip shows 3-year-old forced to drink toilet cleaner: Chonburi

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Clip shows 3-year-old forced to drink toilet cleaner
The Nation

CHONBURI: -- A girl student, 10, reportedly forced a three-year-old kindergarten girl to drink toilet cleaner at a Chon Buri School after the younger student failed to pay her a "protection fee", a video clip on YouTube has revealed.

The clip first appeared on the Internet on Thursday - also the victim's birthday.

"I've asked the school to check recordings from its closed-circuit television system. From the clip, it's clear what happened," a relative of the victim said yesterday.

Following the incident, the victim was hospitalised. "After I watched the clip, I felt so sad. I never imagined that such terrible things could happen to my child at the school. I used to think that my girl would be safe there because teachers would take care of her," the girl's father lamented.

He said had the toilet cleaner been a widely available chemical product on the market, his daughter might already be dead. "Fortunately, the school makes its own toilet cleaner and it's not very acidic," the father said.

He vowed to take action against his daughter's abuser.

According to an informed source, the alleged abuser is 10. Her friends helped keep watch after the victim was taken to the restroom area.

The video clip showed that she slapped the victim in the face several times before forcing the younger girl to drink the toilet cleaner.

"The school should also take responsibility," the victim's father said.


-- The Nation 2013-08-03

[Thai at Heart]

This place is going downhill so fast.

[theblether]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

[Thai at Heart]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I applaud your intentions. What odds?

What about the rest of their gang. I am so tired of reading about things like this in Thailand.

[chooka]

Geez they start young, I wonder where she learnt her trade They say that children study their parents and those close to them and imitate their behaviour.

[NongKhaiKid]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I don't know much about Thai law but at age 10 what can be done ?

She needs to be sorted out somehow because a protection racket at 10, what does she move into next?

As a side issue it seems to me there's a lot of dodging responsibility. Many years ago a very experienced primary school teacher in a rural area told me she was appalled at a PTA type of meeting she had attended where the school blamed the parents for problems and vice versa.

[jonclark]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I applaud your intentions. What odds?

What about the rest of their gang. I am so tired of reading about things like this in Thailand.

Whilst I too am tired of reading about this type of action, it is just symptomatic of the global society we live in. I remember nigh on twenty years ago the James Bulger murder in the UK. Far worse and as i've stated symptomatic of a wider breakdown of society. Not a uniquely Thai or youth problem - adults do far worse to kids - as the life sentences for the parents of f Danial Pelka who starved, tortured, battered and ultimately murdered this 4 year old boy in the UK

[noitom]

A 10 year old "extortionist." These Thais, they are something else. No need to worry about products for cleaning in schools and universities in Thailand. a majority of institutions water down all products, and one in particular, has water private label, but it is tap water. So the cleaner the young unfortunate victim was forced to drink because she didn't pay "protection" money, was probably well watered down.

[johnlandy]

This place is going downhill so fast.

It didn't have far to fall in the first place

[GeorgeO]

This place is going downhill so fast.

You're so right. Just when you think you've heard it all.....

[DocN]

A 10 year old was asking a 3 year old for protection- money and made her drink toilet- cleaner, when the 3 year old refused to pay?

...I have nothing on this!

[Redhead27]

This is disgusting, where does a 10 year old learn to extort money from her classmates? There needs to be a serious look into her home life. Her parents need to be held responsible for her actions, this is a little more than just extortion it is attempted murder. If the cleaner had not been home made the 3 year old girl could have been killed.

[Redhead27]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I don't know much about Thai law but at age 10 what can be done ?

She needs to be sorted out somehow because a protection racket at 10, what does she move into next?

As a side issue it seems to me there's a lot of dodging responsibility. Many years ago a very experienced primary school teacher in a rural area told me she was appalled at a PTA type of meeting she had attended where the school blamed the parents for problems and vice versa.

Too many parents expect the schools to raise their children for them. It is a parents job to teach their children moral values and a schools job to educate them.

[Thai at Heart]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I applaud your intentions. What odds?

What about the rest of their gang. I am so tired of reading about things like this in Thailand.

Whilst I too am tired of reading about this type of action, it is just symptomatic of the global society we live in. I remember nigh on twenty years ago the James Bulger murder in the UK. Far worse and as i've stated symptomatic of a wider breakdown of society. Not a uniquely Thai or youth problem - adults do far worse to kids - as the life sentences for the parents of f Danial Pelka who starved, tortured, battered and ultimately murdered this 4 year old boy in the UK

Yes, bad stuff happens everywhere. The reaction of society, it's ability to try to solve these problems and change, and try to protect society at large are the difference.

What odds these kids end up back in school together next week? Kids who torture other kids desperately need help. What system is there to help these kids and protect society at large in Thailand?

Have you ever met a Thai psychiatrist? Me neither......

[Thai at Heart]

This place is going downhill so fast.

It didn't have far to fall in the first place

Very very worrying all in all.

[ronthai]

In 8 years, if not sooner, this girl will probably be in Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket doing the same to farangs

[chooka]

What on earth are 10 yr olds doing mixing with the nursery (Kindergarten) kids? The 10 yr olds shouldn't even have access to the toddlers and very young. Shows a complete lack of duty of care by teachers and the school. You have this story and other stories of kindergarten children being beaten up by primary school kids who have access to them, one still fighting for his life in hospital and stories of toddlers being left in vans. The system is in urgent need of a review to protect the very young.

[Thai at Heart]

What on earth are 10 yr olds doing mixing with the nursery (Kindergarten) kids? The 10 yr olds shouldn't even have access to the toddlers and very young. Shows a complete lack of duty of care by teachers and the school. You have this story and other stories of kindergarten children being beaten up by primary school kids who have access to them, one still fighting for his life in hospital and stories of toddlers being left in vans. The system is in urgent need of a review to protect the very young.

Chooka, the system is that there is no system. It broke long ago.

[chooka]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I applaud your intentions. What odds?

What about the rest of their gang. I am so tired of reading about things like this in Thailand.

Whilst I too am tired of reading about this type of action, it is just symptomatic of the global society we live in. I remember nigh on twenty years ago the James Bulger murder in the UK. Far worse and as i've stated symptomatic of a wider breakdown of society. Not a uniquely Thai or youth problem - adults do far worse to kids - as the life sentences for the parents of f Danial Pelka who starved, tortured, battered and ultimately murdered this 4 year old boy in the UK

Yes, bad stuff happens everywhere. The reaction of society, it's ability to try to solve these problems and change, and try to protect society at large are the difference.

What odds these kids end up back in school together next week? Kids who torture other kids desperately need help. What system is there to help these kids and protect society at large in Thailand?

Have you ever met a Thai psychiatrist? Me neither......

Primary school kids everywhere to not have access to the nursery during school times, toddlers and the very young are strictly supervised by teachers and staff. Nope it doesn't happen everywhere during school hours.

[fakename]

She probably learned these tricks from the older class mates, and when they moved on to other schools, it was her turn to be the extortionist. Its too easy to blame the parents, although they are responsible for part of the child's behavior. Peer pressure is often very great.

[chrisinth]

What on earth are 10 yr olds doing mixing with the nursery (Kindergarten) kids? The 10 yr olds shouldn't even have access to the toddlers and very young. Shows a complete lack of duty of care by teachers and the school. You have this story and other stories of kindergarten children being beaten up by primary school kids who have access to them, one still fighting for his life in hospital and stories of toddlers being left in vans. The system is in urgent need of a review to protect the very young.

You just beat me to that chooka. Aside from the terrible consequences of this assault, why were 10 year olds allowed access to 3 year olds unsupervised? In this instance you cannot tell me that the school are not partially responsible for what happened.

The other scary thing about this entire incident is that the clip was a/ recorded, and b/ uploaded to the internet by, apparently 10 year old kids.

[drdoom6996]

Children watch the strong arm tactics of folks like Chalerm and the BIB everyday. Who do you think they copy? Very sad.

[bangkokheat]

What on earth are 10 yr olds doing mixing with the nursery (Kindergarten) kids? The 10 yr olds shouldn't even have access to the toddlers and very young. Shows a complete lack of duty of care by teachers and the school. You have this story and other stories of kindergarten children being beaten up by primary school kids who have access to them, one still fighting for his life in hospital and stories of toddlers being left in vans. The system is in urgent need of a review to protect the very young.

i agree, but its not only the very young that need protecting in thailand

[bangkokheat]

makes you want to neck the child and her parents

[abhaya]

I happy to hear the child will recover.

[harrismac]

This is disgusting, where does a 10 year old learn to extort money from her classmates? There needs to be a serious look into her home life. Her parents need to be held responsible for her actions, this is a little more than just extortion it is attempted murder. If the cleaner had not been home made the 3 year old girl could have been killed.

Regardless of where she learned it from, where is the discipline nowadays? If I found my child doing that, I'd spank her little ass until the cows came home. She wouldn't have a toy worth a damn, no social life, no friends, and it would be straight to school and back home. People are scared to discipline their children. This is a serious matter, and she would not only hear about it, but her butt would feel it, too. She could kill somebody doing stuff like that. If I did that growing up, I would have to go cut a switch (small branch off of a tree), and my parent or parents would have tore my hide up. That or a simple belt would suffice. I would have had to sit there and listen to both my parents go on and on about why what I did was wrong and bad, and more than likely I would never do whatever it was again.

In today's overly politically correct world, if the child complained, the parents would be thrown in jail for "abuse". The kid would get taken away and put with a family that views that child as a paycheck. Parenting would go out the window, allowing the child to get into whatever he or she wanted. With today's society, kids think the dumbest stuff is "cool", and start doing pretty horrific things at a younger age that today's homes with dual working parents let go unnoticed. The kid ends up messing up their schooling and possibly going to jail for Lord knows what.

All in all, the child would have had way brighter of a future if the huge government would stay out of our lives and let us raise our children the way we know best, which has worked since the dawn of time. True abuse, yeah, intervene. But most cases, it's just a whiny brat that doesn't want to listen, and needs to be shown who is the authority and why that is.

[Docno]

This sort of thing, sadly, is not unique to Thailand. Here's a story from just two weeks back... 10 year-old in the US threatens his class with a handgun: http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/07/police_10-year-old_threatened.html . Threats and violence among kids this young is rare but it does happen and it happens everywhere. And I doubt it's any more prevalent than it's been in the past. For as long as we have had civilisation, people have been saying 'geez, things weren't like this in the good old days -- society is heading down hill'. Psychologists call this tendency the 'availability cascade' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_cascade) ... we remember more recent, significant events and don't have more distant benchmarks on which to judge them so think they are indicative of 'something new'.

[Sayonarax]

Wake up Thailand, you haven't learnt from the first incident months back. Put the parents in prison and make if very public..

I hope for the sake of all teachers this never happens near me, because you best put on your bullet proof skives.

[Andre0720]

A 'mama san' in the making....

[hellodolly]

Lord Of The Flies stuff.......

Once again it's not a Thai only issue, there are deranged children walking the planet all over the place.

That 10 year old will need to be assessed to see if she's actually psychotic, and in as much as we all would like to think that all kids are sweetness and light, some do show psychotic tendencies at a young age.

As for the three year old, hopefully young enough to forget, and naturally we all hope she makes a full recovery.

I applaud your intentions. What odds?

What about the rest of their gang. I am so tired of reading about things like this in Thailand.

Read Laos news then.

Yes this is a horrible thing to have happen. How ever it omits the fact that many parents use schools as baby sitters and teach their children nothing of ethics fair play or kindness. They leave that up to the schools who have teachers ill prepared for teaching knowledge much less the right way to live to honer others.

Edit

It just occur to me that isn't three years old a little young for kindergarten and what would a three year old be doing with money?

They have it on tape but the whole thing seems surreal. A school with a camera monitoring system making their own week solution toilet bowel cleaner. Also no complaints until a u tube video.

Are the Thai schools becoming like many American ones with armed guards and in some places armed teachers?

Edited August 3, 2013 by hellodolly