lovetotravel Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I think it's hard to argue that man has not had an impact on the world. Whether that means this is significantly contributing to climate change is the point of debate. But it sure would seem like it. Beijing in the winter being blasted by sand storms from the desert, which is a direct result of human interference. Massive deforestation globally. Smoke covering almost all of Asia during parts of the year. Etc. In that movie, Chasing Ice, he did show a few interesting things. One was a cause of some of Greenland's ice cap melt. Darkening of the ice caused by pollution. Another interesting fact was the data on glaciers in Canada. Sure, a few were increasing, but the vast majority were shrinking at record levels. The earth certainly does warm and cool over time, but it tends to be very long time frames. Not the shortened ones we are seeing now???? I was in Patagonia a few years ago and got to see first hand how the glaciers have changed. Pictures showing where the ice was 50, 40, 30, 20, 10 years ago were crazy to see. Massive melt off in the past 10 years. Even in the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmarlin Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Your poll is not complete: *) Climate change is a hoax I vote for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 the fact that you cant understand why that would be the case means that it isnt a fact? lol Would you be so kind to take a few minutes and explain how the CO2 levels during the start of the Silurian period were vastly higher than they are today (and I really mean vastly) and yet it was the first ice-age following the Pre-Cambrian period. And then go on to explain how my education in geology was a total waste of time. Thanks in advance. no I'd already worked out that you couldn't. Bit of friendly advice, if you have already been caught in a lie, it may be best not to try and compound it. Cheers, and have a nice day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiftyTwo Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Well after reading al of the my house got flooded posts some people came to realise that Thailand has had problems with floods for century's thats why many old houses in rural Thailand are built on stilts . Apparently buying a parcel of cheap land from noi or toys family in nakhon somewhere and building that million dollar retirement villa has left a sour taste in their mouth and bank account. So much for climate change.But according to some people its al a certain politicians fault ........ I am not sure why the Thai rural houses are built on stilts, but in Issan I think it had something to do with keeping snakes, and bugs etc out of the dwelling amoung other reasons. No, it's about flooding and cooling, most snakes can climb steps or drop from trees. Bugs can often fly as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetotravel Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Your poll is not complete: *) Climate change is a hoax I vote for that. But the climate has changed in the past and is guaranteed to change again in the future. No hoax there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Maybe if someone had asked John D. Rockefeller what the climate would do he would have given the same prediction he did when asked about what the stock market would do. "Fluctuate." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crumpled Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I draw your attention to GreenSnappers input. +1 Not enough options. Maybe we are contributing to some degree but the climate changes anyway as it has in the past. I feel we are being taxed to the hilt in the U.K. over global warming and Camoron is now talking about backtracking on the green taxes - as of yesterdays news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Maybe if someone had asked John D. Rockefeller what the climate would do he would have given the same prediction he did when asked about what the stock market would do. "Fluctuate." Must be nice to live in such simplicity, bet you watch FOX "news". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourauntbob Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Maybe if someone had asked John D. Rockefeller what the climate would do he would have given the same prediction he did when asked about what the stock market would do. "Fluctuate." Must be nice to live in such simplicity, bet you watch FOX "news". i bet you watch abc nbc, cbs, and msnbc "news" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rsokolowski Posted October 24, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2013 Maybe if someone had asked John D. Rockefeller what the climate would do he would have given the same prediction he did when asked about what the stock market would do. "Fluctuate." Must be nice to live in such simplicity, bet you watch FOX "news".I watch fox news, and MSNBC, CNN, Bloomberg, CNBC, and others as well as internet sources such as CNN, FOX. Roll Call, Real Clear Politics, and even the notorious Drudge Report (which is just a compilation of news links from other sources). If a topic is interesting I will read a book (or books) about the topic. For TV FOX is my favorite, but I like to watch MSNBC regularly to listen to the what the other side thinks and listen to their reasoning behind their argument. I have found that many with a more left view of the world prefer to watch news that agrees with their world view and don't want to listen to other opinions. The left in general is for diversity of everything, except diversity of thought. The left is for science, but in the case of global warming the science is settled and everyone should accept carbon taxes that do absolutely nothing to stop the rise of CO2 in the atmosphere (China and India don't have CO2 taxes and are major sources of CO2). I don't argue that warming hasn't occurred, I don't deny that man may contribute to warming, but the UN IPCC has greatly overestimated the effect that CO2 has on the environment (every IPCC report on climate change has overestimated the amount of warming). It is factual that every single climate estimate from the UN has overestimated the amount of warming, and CO2 levels have continued to increase since 1996, but temperatures have steadied out. Remember the "theory" that greenhouse gases (primarily CO2) causes heat to be trapped which will increase the average global temperature. CO2 levels have continued to increase, but the temperature increase has paused. I don't know why it paused but if the theory is correct the temperature should be increasing. Failure to address this pause in the latest UN IPCC report indicates (to me anyway) that they don't have a clue what is causing the pause, they are grasping at straws and will try any BS claim (i.e. "the deep ocean is trapping heat") to keep the gravy train flowing. Heat rises, even in the ocean. Science can never be settled when valid questions remain, no matter how many times the UN IPCC and green lobby restate that it has been settled already and everyone should shut up and open their wallets. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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