webfact Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 IMPEACHMENTNACC to investigate backers of charter change draftThe NationBANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) will meet today to consider the fate of the 312 members of the House and Senate who backed the draft legislation - since ruled by the Constitutional Court to be unconstitutional - to amend the charter in order to change the make-up of the Senate.Vicha Mahakhun, an NACC commissioner, said yesterday the agency would open its first inquiry and launch an investigation process to find out whether these lawmakers had committed wrongful acts. Later, they will invite both complainants and defendants to testify.He said the inquiry would take around one month, but he could not say whether the case would be finished before February 2, the day of the next election.Commenting on the "People's Council" called for by anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban, Vicha said that this could be done through an executive decree and the caretaker government could be allowed to proceed with such a move as a possible way out of the political impasse. He said such a council would be responsible for political reform, but could not act as an alternative House of Representatives.He disagreed with a proposal for a royally appointed prime minister, saying there was no law allowing such a move.Asked whether caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra could step down, as demanded by the protesters, Vicha declined comment, but recalled that this had happened when Thaksin Shinawatra was in power. Thaksin had stepped down as caretaker prime minister, with Pol General Chidchai Vanasatidya appointed to perform prime ministerial duties.-- The Nation 2013-12-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uty6543 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Given that almost everyone is corruptible I wonder which side has bought the NACC's decision? Does anyone think these people are truly independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JRSoul Posted December 11, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2013 Those of the 312 that belong to PTP obviously voted on party lines. If the NACC decides that the decision to vote that way was made by Thaksin, an unelected criminal, are they all not guilty of vote-selling? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slapout Posted December 12, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2013 The Thai system as it exists, presents a chance to rid the country of many of the corrupt politicians and punish them, as an example for all future political parties.. The system by its own admission allowed Thaksin to assume the pm position orginally, (as they felt it best for the country at that time), overlooking his illegal actions. This and subsquent mistakes can be corrected, if the welfare of Thailand is their priority. The Shin family and its various named political mobs have brought Thailand to a breaking point, financially, politically, and morally. The laws are in place for them to be punished for their total disreguard for the system, its intent, and more importantly, the Thai population. The avenue is here, now do those tasked with the responsibility, legally, have the where with all to do the duty they have sworn to preform???? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibbles48 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Given that almost everyone is corruptible I wonder which side has bought the NACC's decision? Does anyone think these people are truly independent. I think that is a jaded view. While many are corrupt, not all are. Let's hope and pray for mass banning orders and hopefully a few token prison sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Proposing something that might not be 100% constitutional is not a crime. But conspiring to make laws that are obviously and clearly unconstitutional, and are done while in office by chicanery, subterfuge and deceit in the dead of night, may well be crimes, and conspiracy to commit crimes while in office and that is what the NACC will be looking at in these cases. And whether an outside party influenced the conspiracy for it's own benefit, would also be a context for these investigations. Edited December 12, 2013 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Proposing something that might not be 100% constitutional is not a crime. But conspiring to make laws that are obviously and clearly unconstitutional, and are done while in office by chicanery, subterfuge and deceit in the dead of night, may well be crimes, and conspiracy to commit crimes while in office and that is what the NACC will be looking at in these cases. And whether an outside party influenced the conspiracy for it's own benefit, would also be a context for these investigations. But propsing something that is 100% unconstitutional probably is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rametindallas Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I would find it hilarious if all 312 were banned the day before the election. Wouldn't that take away some of Dr. Thaksin's power? The Dems would win by default and Dr. Thaksin would have to raise another Red Shirt army to lay seige to Bangkok. About this time Dr. Thaksin is hopefully wondering if all the time, energy, and very great expense worth it to become Thailand's first President. Thaksin is sort of a reverse Nelson Mandela. Mandela served his prison time and united the divided S. A. and Dr. Thaksin...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHONSTEVE Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I would find it hilarious if all 312 were banned the day before the election. Wouldn't that take away some of Dr. Thaksin's power? The Dems would win by default and Dr. Thaksin would have to raise another Red Shirt army to lay seige to Bangkok. About this time Dr. Thaksin is hopefully wondering if all the time, energy, and very great expense worth it to become Thailand's first President. Thaksin is sort of a reverse Nelson Mandela. Mandela served his prison time and united the divided S. A. and Dr. Thaksin...? What a stirring thought!! I have come over all emotional at the irony of this perfect storm. Please make it happen this way and make me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 saw the posty going in to NACC offices with a big bag of brown envelopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 it,s a bit like the question ' why is there only 1 monopolyies commision' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukebowling Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 So what you are saying is that to propose an amendment to the constitution is unconstitutional…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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