webfact Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 PM Yingluck Turns Down Call For ResignationBy Khaosod OnlinePrime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra taking questions from reporters, 17 December 2013BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has said she will not resign from her caretaker position demanded by anti-government protesters.The People′s Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), led by former Democrat MP Suthep Thaugsuban, has been calling for Ms. Yingluck′s resignation and a royal appointment of an unelected Prime Minister along with the formation of unelected ′People′s Council′ to rule the country as a transitional government.But in a press conference earlier today after a Cabinet meeting in Bangkok, Ms. Yingluck stressed that she will not resign, because the Constitution requires her to stay until the next election.She also told reporters that the election will go ahead on 2 February 2014 as scheduled; the protesters have demanded that the election be postponed and their "reform" of Thailand be implemented first.However, she refused to say whether she will run as the top ticket of Pheu Thai Party again, stating that there is still plenty of time to decide.Also attending the Cabinet meeting was Pol.Lt.Gen. Kamronwit Thoopkrachang, chief of Bangkok Metropolitan Police, who refused the talk to reporters about the police strategies to contain the prolonged protests.Asked whether the election will happen on 2 February 2014, Pol.Lt.Gen. Kamronwit said he does not know. "We have to evaluate that possibility from many [agencies]", but insisted that police can provide security for the election.Source: http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNE56STFPVEU0TXc9PQ== -- Khaosod English 2013-12-17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurentbkk Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Elected by whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nickymaster Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Because she is a very corrupt puppet. Edited December 17, 2013 by Nickymaster 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spare Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Elected by whom? By her brother. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thait Spot Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Elected by whom? By her brother. How do I get a cigar to you? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ManopY Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brewsterbudgen Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yingluck's corruption is just as illegal as Suthep's and all the other Thai, and other countries', politicians. But if the Thai people choose to elect her party again, she has the right to be Prime Minister. Far more corrupt, IMO, are those calling for the election to be postponed and a non-democratic junta put in place. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wimpey1946 Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Elected by whom? the majority, thats called democracy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Elected by whom? the majority, thats called democracy How many people voted for her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Local Drunk Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Elected by whom? the majority, thats called democracy How many people voted for her? None. They voted for her brother. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkkfaranguy Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yingluck's corruption is just as illegal as Suthep's and all the other Thai, and other countries', politicians. But if the Thai people choose to elect her party again, she has the right to be Prime Minister. Far more corrupt, IMO, are those calling for the election to be postponed and a non-democratic junta put in place. As far as I know she has not been convicted for any corruption charges, sure her brother has but that does not make her guilty. If all the other side has to offer is guilt by association or that she is a puppet (which I have never seen any proof) they have no chance of winning a election ever! There only platform seems to be tell lives often enough all the time and sooner or later you will get a few people to believe. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kkerry Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 You can argue the semantics 24/7 about who voted for who or voted for anything else for that matter, but at the end of the day Yingluck is for now still the acting Prime Minister... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Local Drunk Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 You can argue the semantics 24/7 about who voted for who or voted for anything else for that matter, but at the end of the day Yingluck is for now still the acting Prime Minister... Yingluck is for now still the acting Prime Minister You mean "acting " surely... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 She still wants to make travel plans to Hawaii... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjaak327 Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. Edited December 17, 2013 by sjaak327 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 brewsterbudgen, on 17 Dec 2013 - 13:39, said: Yingluck's corruption is just as illegal as Suthep's and all the other Thai, and other countries', politicians. But if the Thai people choose to elect her party again, she has the right to be Prime Minister. Far more corrupt, IMO, are those calling for the election to be postponed and a non-democratic junta put in place. As far as I know she has not been convicted for any corruption charges, sure her brother has but that does not make her guilty. If all the other side has to offer is guilt by association or that she is a puppet (which I have never seen any proof) they have no chance of winning a election ever! There only platform seems to be tell lives often enough all the time and sooner or later you will get a few people to believe. But then again neither have Suthep or Abhisit and have a look at your own posts and see what you are saying about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thairookie Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) If the Democrats had been elected and formed the Government under the current system, would they be calling for reforms ? Is it the duty of the Government to aid the Opposition Party so that the latter could pose a credible challenge to itself ? Edited December 17, 2013 by thairookie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr Yim Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Just a reminder to our yellow shirted friends that Suthep was model politician in his years in government. In1995, as part of the Sor Por Kor 4-01 land reform scheme, Suthep gave title deeds to 592 plots of land in Khao Sam Liam, Kamala and Nakkerd hills of Phuket province to 489 farmers. It was later found that members of 11 wealthy families in Phuket were among the recipients. Suthep addressed a huge crowd in his Surat Thani constituency a month before a no-confidence debate and called on his supporters to march on Bangkok in the hundreds of thousands to defend his reputation.The scandal led Prime Minister Chuan Leekpaiof the Democrat Party to dissolve the House of Representatives in July 1995 in order to avoid the no-confidence debate. In subsequent elections, Thai Nation Party won a majority, leading to the downfall of Chuan Leekpai's Democrat Party-led government. In 2009, Suthep was accused of violating the Constituion of Thailand by holding equity in a media firm that had received concessions from the government. Under the 1997 Constitution of Thailand, which Suthep had supported, Members of Parliament are banned from holding stakes in companies which have received government concessions. In July 2009, the Election Commission announced that it would seek a ruling by the Constitutional Court to disqualify Suthep. Suthep held a press conference a day later, announcing his decision to resign from Parliament. Suthep's resignation as an MP did not affect his status as a Deputy Prime Minister and as a Cabinet member. If his case had been submitted to the Constitution Court, he would have been suspended from duty as Deputy Prime Minister. He insisted his resignation was not a proof that he had done anything wrong but that he was worried about status as Deputy Prime Minister. Perhaps, our yellow buddies may like to list the inappropriate behaviour(s) of PM Yingluck Shiniwatra, as I cant find anything on Wikipedia. Edited December 17, 2013 by Mr Yim 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fstarbkk Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. Well, technically, her mandate is disputed, by the tens of thousands who have been disputing it on the streets of Bangkok and cities around the country lately. Just saying... Edited December 17, 2013 by fstarbkk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thait Spot Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjaak327 Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either.Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con The Thai PM is not directly elected, so disputing her mandate on that basis only shows ignorance about the electoral process. The Thai PM however is indirectly elected, elected by Mp's who in turn are elected by either the constituenty or by party list, which in both cases is done by the electorate. So yes the Thai PM is not appointed but democratically elected. Futhermore, as far as I know Yingluck was on the party list in 2011 and ran the PT campaign. Certainly the 15.7 million people that voted PT on the party list, mist have had a pretty good understanding who they were voting for.By the way, this isn't special, as in many countries the PM isn't directly elected. Edited December 17, 2013 by sjaak327 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zolt Posted December 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2013 None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con She was first on the party list vote for the party that garnered the most votes. You don't get any closer to being elected into the role directly under Thailand's system, or any parliamentary system for that matter. I don't know of any country where the office of PM is elected by direct suffrage. People knew what they were getting when they voted for PT. You're asserting that Thaksin shoehorned her into the role because he wanted his sister as proxy. I disagree: any other PT stooge would have served his interests just as well. I'm advancing instead the proposition that PT executives instead chose to put a Shinnawatra on top of their party list because they knew that would net them the most votes in the election. The name may be reviled in Bangkok but in the Northeast it's still very popular. Is it really a con if the voters know exactly what they're going to get, and vote for it anyway? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emptyset Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con I'm sure most people here would contest this, as they say even Abhisit was legally elected PM. Yingluck's party actually won the election and won with her at the head of the campaign as prospective PM. She was then voted PM by parliament and it didn't even require the assistance of the courts, military or PAD! But even if PT had voted for some complete unknown as PM after Yingluck had lead the election campaign, that would be fine as it's the vote in parliament that counts, not the issues surrounding it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibbles48 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Because if she doesn't resign, then people may up dying in an attempt to remove her! Edited December 17, 2013 by Crossy expletive deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con She's clearly one of the most naturally talented political figures of all time, along with an ex paper hanger from Austria, moving from nowhere into the very top job in Thai politics in one bound and all off her own bat. That's not bad for a girl who left university to work in telesales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 PM Yingluck Turns Down Call For Resignation Did she cry this time????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con The Thai PM is not directly elected, so disputing her mandate on that basis only shows ignorance about the electoral process. The Thai PM however is indirectly elected, elected by Mp's who in turn are elected by either the constituenty or by party list, which in both cases is done by the electorate. So yes the Thai PM is not appointed but democratically elected. Futhermore, as far as I know Yingluck was on the party list in 2011 and ran the PT campaign. Certainly the 15.7 million people that voted PT on the party list, mist have had a pretty good understanding who they were voting for. By the way, this isn't special, as in many countries the PM isn't directly elected. She is there for her DNA. Not her political experience and that's not democratic. Find me another PM in the whole world in such a situation Sent from my Nexus 4 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggold Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 well on the other hand she has been elected ...so why resign now ? Because she dissolved parliament, technically PTP are no longer the government! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 None. They voted for her brother. Her brother wasn't on the party list. The 297 MP's that voted for Yingluck to become PM didn't vote for Thaksin either. Her mandate is undisputed. I dispute it - it's hypocritical to do away with appointed senators when you have an appointed (Note NOT Elected) PM If nobody in the electorate voted for her, how is this democratic? She was chosen because she is her brother's sister Hell! She wasn't even a member of PTP and even now isn't the leader It's all a big con She's clearly one of the most naturally talented political figures of all time, along with an ex paper hanger from Austria, moving from nowhere into the very top job in Thai politics in one bound and all off her own bat. That's not bad for a girl who left university to work in telesales. Oh please don't crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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