Thai government to ask army to secure election

[huahinjoe]

Would be great to stop the drama and start a nationwide sms/call-in/app campaign for a serious of questions and implementations before they rush into anything. The TV could start to have experts and contest shows going on instead of soaps and "funny" shows, and the whole country could have a chance to look into a brighter future by proposing better ideas, maybe from foreign experts too and everybody can vote for it.

But hangon, the main problem is i think not with the ideas, but with the law enforcement, corruption free implementations, the whole system is affected by the blatant corruption and we can talk for ages if nobody willing the right thing to do, its too deep down in the roots.

The country really need a charismatic leader who is young, admired, smart enough to lead the country out the mess and everybody listen him/her.

The question is who is that person in the Thai Kingdom who everybody trust, admire, look up and listens without any doubt???

[JohnP1752]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

"This fight is only about money and power for Suthep"

Suthep is the Army's puppet. This is about removing any populist leader, denying the majority a say in future elections, and returning the Bangkok elite to power.

If that were true, then the army could effect another coup. What are they waiting for?

It would be a very unpopular move to the supporters of the elected government, which represent the majority of Thai citizens whichever way you look at it. I doubt they will stand by and just let it happen.

[oldthaihand99]

The question is who is that person in the Thai Kingdom who everybody trust, admire, look up and listens without any doubt??

Even Buddha would not qualify, let alone any living old wise guy.

Edited December 27, 2013 by oldthaihand99

[webfact]

CAPO seeks military hand to guard registration stations tomorrow



BANGKOK: -- The Center for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO) will seek cooperation from the Armed Forces to deploy troops at all election registration offices nationwide to prevent attempted blockades by protesters.

The move by CAPO came as the Election Commission (EC) will open the constituency election registration across the country tomorrow amid threat by the People’s Democratic Reform Committee’s call for all supporters to disrupt the registration beginning December28-January 1.

The EC also advised all registration office heads to consider appropriately whether to suspend registration if their offices are encircled and registration could not proceed. In such case, they are advised to report to the local police station on the disruption.

CAPO head Surapong Tovichakchaikul said he will call on the Supreme Commander and ask for the deployment of troops to maintain peace and order at the registration offices.

Surapong said that constituency election registration must go on so as to ensure that the February 2 election can be held.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/capo-seeks-military-hand-guard-registration-stations-tomorrow/

[thaipbs]2013-12-27/thaipbs]

[pumpuiman]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

"This fight is only about money and power for Suthep"

Suthep is the Army's puppet. This is about removing any populist leader, denying the majority a say in future elections, and returning the Bangkok elite to power.

If that were true, then the army could effect another coup. What are they waiting for?

They have been trying to incite violence, and hoped Yingluck would respond in kind. She exercised restraint and foiled their plan. The Thai media has been manipulated to say what they like...the world media has unfortunately reported the truth...much to their dismay.

They are waiting for the shit to hit the fan, or actually they are the ones flinging it.

The Army will continue to pull the strings on Suthep, incite more violence, allow more innocent people to die.....then say they have to step in.

[oldthaihand99]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

"This fight is only about money and power for Suthep"

Suthep is the Army's puppet. This is about removing any populist leader, denying the majority a say in future elections, and returning the Bangkok elite to power.

If that were true, then the army could effect another coup. What are they waiting for?

It would be a very unpopular move to the supporters of the elected government, which represent the majority of Thai citizens whichever way you look at it. I doubt they will stand by and just let it happen.

Yet they did so recently in a very similar situation. Was a coup "popular" then?

IOW the Army is afraid.

It might lose a war with the real "people's power" (voting majority) of Thailand.

Or they are not prepared to carry out genocide on half the country.

Who would the elite rule over & plunder then?

Edited December 27, 2013 by LivinginKata
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[backtonormal]

The army is being coaxed to make a decision.

They got to nip this in the bud and agree otherwise it won't just be a violent yellow shirt mob they have to control, it will be the whole nation.

if the government tells not asks the army to protect the election from Suthep facists then they should shut up and just do it. Any Officer disobeying orders or aligning themselves to a retire officers club should be tried for mutiny and hung accordingly.

The army has no choice....if as you say they refuse to man the polling booths then thats mutiny

[MGP]

Would be great to stop the drama and start a nationwide sms/call-in/app campaign for a serious of questions and implementations before they rush into anything. The TV could start to have experts and contest shows going on instead of soaps and "funny" shows, and the whole country could have a chance to look into a brighter future by proposing better ideas, maybe from foreign experts too and everybody can vote for it.

But hangon, the main problem is i think not with the ideas, but with the law enforcement, corruption free implementations, the whole system is affected by the blatant corruption and we can talk for ages if nobody willing the right thing to do, its too deep down in the roots.

The country really need a charismatic leader who is young, admired, smart enough to lead the country out the mess and everybody listen him/her.

The question is who is that person in the Thai Kingdom who everybody trust, admire, look up and listens without any doubt???

That would be very nice.

There is one monk that is collecting fresh ideas from the people:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=683789154999517&set=a.682695748442191.1073741828.679344638777302&type=1&relevant_count=1

https://www.facebook.com/Thailand.PeopleCouncil

I know that some of you will accuse that monk of having shared the stage with Suthep, but don't get it wrong. If you listen to his talks, he is severely criticizing some of Suthep's and othe protest leader's ideas, and asking the people to listen & think carefully and not trust or blindly follow everything that they are asking or promising.

https://twitter.com/BuddhaIsara

Edited December 27, 2013 by MGP

[oldthaihand99]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

"This fight is only about money and power for Suthep"

Suthep is the Army's puppet. This is about removing any populist leader, denying the majority a say in future elections, and returning the Bangkok elite to power.

If that were true, then the army could effect another coup. What are they waiting for?

They have been trying to incite violence, and hoped Yingluck would respond in kind. She exercised restraint and foiled their plan. The Thai media has been manipulated to say what they like...the world media has unfortunately reported the truth...much to their dismay.

They are waiting for the shit to hit the fan, or actually they are the ones flinging it.

The Army will continue to pull the strings on Suthep, incite more violence, allow more innocent people to die.....then say they have to step in.

It would be a piece of cake for the elite to pay off some red shirts or fake reds to incite some violence. Then you have your justification for the next coup.

[backtonormal]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

"This fight is only about money and power for Suthep"

Suthep is the Army's puppet. This is about removing any populist leader, denying the majority a say in future elections, and returning the Bangkok elite to power.

If that were true, then the army could effect another coup. What are they waiting for?

They have been trying to incite violence, and hoped Yingluck would respond in kind. She exercised restraint and foiled their plan. The Thai media has been manipulated to say what they like...the world media has unfortunately reported the truth...much to their dismay.

They are waiting for the shit to hit the fan, or actually they are the ones flinging it.

The Army will continue to pull the strings on Suthep, incite more violence, allow more innocent people to die.....then say they have to step in.

The army are not the backers of this attempted uprising they are purely the muscle. The country needs to know who is financing this charade thats trying to deprive them of their democratic rights. Yes there is an Amart and yes it is faceless but the episode with the Singha heiress shows why they stalk in the shadows and try to run this country. Most of the Amart have successful businesses that rely on oiks buying their products, using their banks , travelling on their buses, using their concrete etc etc. How would their market share look ..lets say if all the Leo drinkers boycotted that particular brew and went to another beer. The Amart is alive and kicking

[TVGerry]

The army is being coaxed to make a decision.

They got to nip this in the bud and agree otherwise it won't just be a violent yellow shirt mob they have to control, it will be the whole nation.

if the government tells not asks the army to protect the election from Suthep facists then they should shut up and just do it. Any Officer disobeying orders or aligning themselves to a retire officers club should be tried for mutiny and hung accordingly.

The army has no choice....if as you say they refuse to man the polling booths then thats mutiny

Don't be naive. This is the police's job, not the army. And the army has 'no choice'? Good luck telling the Royal Thai Army what they have to do. Good luck trying them for 'mutiny' if they decide to give Poo and her cronies the finger. In fact, it would be fun to watch Poo's government try taking on the army.

[Bakseeda]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

JohnP... GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND... it is not about Suthep.... Universities, Academic Bodies, Top Businesses, Chamber of commerce.. almost everyone with common sense knows what is happening in Thailand... What do you think the 2.2 trillion loan is for.. " The power of a dictator is awesome to behold" Thaksin wants this job... go look in the mirror... better to remain silent and let people think you are a knob...etc etc...

[backtonormal]

The army is being coaxed to make a decision.

They got to nip this in the bud and agree otherwise it won't just be a violent yellow shirt mob they have to control, it will be the whole nation.

if the government tells not asks the army to protect the election from Suthep facists then they should shut up and just do it. Any Officer disobeying orders or aligning themselves to a retire officers club should be tried for mutiny and hung accordingly.

The army has no choice....if as you say they refuse to man the polling booths then thats mutiny

Don't be naive. This is the police's job, not the army. And the army has 'no choice'? Good luck telling the Royal Thai Army what they have to do. Good luck trying them for 'mutiny' if they decide to give Poo and her cronies the finger. In fact, it would be fun to watch Poo's government try taking on the army.

I am not naive enough to believe it will happen but their action or inaction will then demonstrate undeniably to the nation that the army has/has no intention of upholding any of their obligation to the people, only a few of them. Inaction will prove that their loyalty is purely to their own pocket while justifying their behaviour....well we all no how they do that

[backtonormal]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

JohnP... GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND... it is not about Suthep.... Universities, Academic Bodies, Top Businesses, Chamber of commerce.. almost everyone with common sense knows what is happening in Thailand... What do you think the 2.2 trillion loan is for.. " The power of a dictator is awesome to behold" Thaksin wants this job... go look in the mirror... better to remain silent and let people think you are a knob...etc etc...

Agreed the money plays a big part but its not as signifcant as Thaksins future role outside of politics that will effect all those that oppose him now

[TVGerry]

The army is being coaxed to make a decision.

They got to nip this in the bud and agree otherwise it won't just be a violent yellow shirt mob they have to control, it will be the whole nation.

if the government tells not asks the army to protect the election from Suthep facists then they should shut up and just do it. Any Officer disobeying orders or aligning themselves to a retire officers club should be tried for mutiny and hung accordingly.

The army has no choice....if as you say they refuse to man the polling booths then thats mutiny

Don't be naive. This is the police's job, not the army. And the army has 'no choice'? Good luck telling the Royal Thai Army what they have to do. Good luck trying them for 'mutiny' if they decide to give Poo and her cronies the finger. In fact, it would be fun to watch Poo's government try taking on the army.

I am not naive enough to believe it will happen but their action or inaction will then demonstrate undeniably to the nation that the army has/has no intention of upholding any of their obligation to the people, only a few of them. Inaction will prove that their loyalty is purely to their own pocket while justifying their behaviour....well we all no how they do that

Obligations to the people? Which people? The reds? The multi coloreds? The unaligned? Everyone thinks they're on the right side of this conflict.

[Nowhereman60]

I laugh at some of these post here, both pro and anti government statements here show TV is full of idiots and violence people just like what is going on in the country. You think I am a troll, no I am just here to laugh at you people and see how many likes my comments LOL I care less what happens here.

Edited December 27, 2013 by Nowhereman60

[nickynomates]

Sooner or later the army will have to step in.

The Police are getting to the limit of what they can handle without live bullets.

The main players sitting on the side lines will not care how much trouble or lives are lost to keep their power.

The New year is not looking good for the Thai nation and the closer we get to the election the more extreme it's going to get.

[pumpuiman]

It would be a piece of cake for the elite to pay off some red shirts or fake reds to incite some violence. Then you have your justification for the next coup.

Or steal police uniforms and beat women on television, or shoot hundreds of bullets in to protest leaders homes. The propaganda machine is running full steam. Who can really tell fact from fiction?

[JohnP1752]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

JohnP... GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND... it is not about Suthep.... Universities, Academic Bodies, Top Businesses, Chamber of commerce.. almost everyone with common sense knows what is happening in Thailand... What do you think the 2.2 trillion loan is for.. " The power of a dictator is awesome to behold" Thaksin wants this job... go look in the mirror... better to remain silent and let people think you are a knob...etc etc...

Both sides are corrupt as each other, this is a massive money pit for all of them.

Whats the plan from Suthep to eliminate corruption? Get rid of Thaksin and reform the police with his good people, so he can go on slaughter campaign.

This is not about Thaksin, that is the tool they have been trying to use to engage the people to demonstrate because of some stupid things the PT government did.

[culicine]

Unless the military start shooting protesters, I don't see how they can be more effective than the police in controlling them. Do the military also use riot gear, tear gas and rubber bullets? I don't think so. I don't think the military will get involved with this. I don't think they should either.

[Scamper]

By approaching the army, Pheu Thai plays its only available unplayed card. Yet what they request is impossible and too widespread to enforce. The army will not become involved. This is Pheu Thai's mess, and so only they can clean it up.

[JohnP1752]

By approaching the army, Pheu Thai plays its only available unplayed card. Yet what they request is impossible and too widespread to enforce. The army will not become involved. This is Pheu Thai's mess, and so only they can clean it up.

Correct, the army will not switch sides, I think Suthep may disagree with you on your last point

[webfact]

POLITICS
Military asked to oversee election safety
The Nation

BANGKOK: -- The military will be asked to support and oversee safety measures for candidates running in the February 2 snap election as well as for voters on election day, the Centre of Administration for Peace and Order's chief Surapong Tohvichakchaikul said Friday.

He will seek a meeting with Supreme Commander Gen Tanasak Patimaprakorn to discuss the issue. Surapong, who is also foreign minister, said the request for the military to take care of security measures for the candidates and the voters in the election date was in response to Election Commission's concerns of more violence prior to the election date, which might possibly mean that the election could not be held as scheduled.

The EC yesterday recommended that the Yingluck government delay the election.


-- The Nation 2013-12-27

[whybother]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

It's interesting that some people conclude that because they don't know what the reforms are that Suthep is suggesting that he therefore must be after absolute control of everything. On what basis do you make those assumptions? He has clearly said reforms then elections in about 12-18 months. He hasn't said anything about taking absolute control, but you jump to those conclusions.

[whybother]

Will the government also authorise the army to be armed?

[englishoak]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

"This fight is only about money and power for Suthep"

Suthep is the Army's puppet. This is about removing any populist leader, denying the majority a say in future elections, and returning the Bangkok elite to power.

They have been trying to incite violence, and hoped Yingluck would respond in kind. She exercised restraint and foiled their plan. The Thai media has been manipulated to say what they like...the world media has unfortunately reported the truth...much to their dismay.

They are waiting for the shit to hit the fan, or actually they are the ones flinging it.

The Army will continue to pull the strings on Suthep, incite more violence, allow more innocent people to die.....then say they have to step in.

The army are not the backers of this attempted uprising they are purely the muscle. The country needs to know who is financing this charade thats trying to deprive them of their democratic rights. Yes there is an Amart and yes it is faceless but the episode with the Singha heiress shows why they stalk in the shadows and try to run this country. Most of the Amart have successful businesses that rely on oiks buying their products, using their banks , travelling on their buses, using their concrete etc etc. How would their market share look ..lets say if all the Leo drinkers boycotted that particular brew and went to another beer. The Amart is alive and kicking

This is what many are increasingly asking, the mails go out, the tweets, the chats, the forums, you tube the light is being shone all over this charade and its becoming increasingly reported in multi International media that there are no proposals on reforms there are no identified areas with proposed solutions and nothing but a weak base and vague repeats of we want reform but nothing else..

Follow the money and power its all there to see slapped all over wiki and many other information sites that are free and accessible in countries and sites without worrying about restrictions on info... people need to wake up but thats asking a lot from this place.

The world is laughing louder and louder every week at the undemocratic whining and demands and rhetoric coming out of these PRDC stages ....no substance but plenty of noise ... it isnt washing now... really ive had a good few foreign friends all basically say the same thing over the xmas hols... why arnt there any solutions or debates on it ? why arnt there any answers to the questions about reform what do they want in these reforms... there is a lot of demanding but little substance... people looking in to begin with were interested and curious .. well over a month later they are still curious but even more interested there is no tabled list of reforms or solutions... in short its becoming clear its all talk about the word reform and absolutely no answers what that actually means.. Its looking quite ridiculous and now its turning nasty too..

This is a globalised world and it wont take much to see though a total sham and i can only hope the Thai people start looking harder and asking more questions about who benefits .. why is this going on now and what the agenda really is.. what i call my educated Thai friends even the ones yellow are not comfortable with the lack of solutions and increasingly confrontational what they call student gangs. they want reform but are beginning to ask exactly what that means.. today i caught 2 of them chatting and both were asking questions of what the other one thought should happen beyond the out out out mantra for a change and both only could shrug their shoulders and say mai roo

I keep getting asked by Thais what i think and i just ask in return what the proposed reforms are ? not one has been able to answer, in fact most just say .. reform again like the word itself is the be and end all of.... i despair and to be honest I think in general the understanding and willingness of the word reform is about as understood as the word democracy here... in short its not at all.

Blindly following someone with no answers shouting demands makes no sense... but then again people here never were any good at asking questions the sheep mentality is built in strong here beggers belief and these are supposed to be the smarter ones ?

The army has always played the sly fox and strong arm, truly it has never relinquished its power it is all a charade and game that it has, it is another part of this archaic system that sooner or later must go... it is trying desperately to find its safely zone in the coming years without it being seen for what it really is. good luck with that one too ... things will get better in the future but that time is a long way off yet i think. and will get a lot lot worse before it turns the right corner...

[Publicus]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

It's interesting that some people conclude that because they don't know what the reforms are that Suthep is suggesting that he therefore must be after absolute control of everything. On what basis do you make those assumptions? He has clearly said reforms then elections in about 12-18 months. He hasn't said anything about taking absolute control, but you jump to those conclusions.

I don't believe Suthep.

Suthep is a feudal lord.

[fab4]

What reforms is Suthep talking about, there has never been anything real with any degree of substance mentioned. The elected government can ask the army but they will not do anything because guess who the silent backer of Suthep is. These demonstrators don't want elections or democracy full stop, they want full, absolute control of everything. Who in their right mind would demonstrate to block elections and support less freedom of speech and more restrictions across the board. The power of a dictator is awesome to behold, he who knows whats best for all of us and if you don't go along with it, you may be killed as a traitor and laughed at. This fight is only about money and power for Suthep

It's interesting that some people conclude that because they don't know what the reforms are that Suthep is suggesting that he therefore must be after absolute control of everything. On what basis do you make those assumptions? He has clearly said reforms then elections in about 12-18 months. He hasn't said anything about taking absolute control, but you jump to those conclusions.

I think the reason why people assume that is because they don't believe he will have elections in 12-18 months and with no constitutional method of ensuring that they are probably correct in that assumption.

It's not as if he is a reliable figure that you would believe, is he? Well, you obviously believe he's truthful, but enquiring people who take his past actions into account probably wouldn't.

Believing suthep is on a par with believing that Thaksin runs the entire country of Thailand from Dubai in between carrying on his normal business deals........

Edited December 27, 2013 by fab4

[zydeco]

And then there is this, just in on the newsfeed:

The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Police officers stationed at the Thai-Japanese Stadium booed and hissed at the Group of 40 senators during their inspection at noon.

Led by Senator Paiboon Nititawan, the senators were escorted by Pol Gen Wallop Chamnongarsa to inspect the damage at the stadium. The officers threw objects at the senators and yelled at the senators, holding them responsible for the hatred.

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This place just gets crazier and crazier. It seems that everybody is against everybody. Or soon will be.

[Siripon]

Suthep has offered to debate reform proposals on TV this Wednesday, New Year's Day with Yingluck.

Sadly Yingluck refused to join, it's a pity as it would have enabled the Thai public (and all the Thai Visa posters) to have a clear idea about what Suthep and Yingluck propose in detail.

The Democrats will start their reform campaign in the New Year, proposing their blueprint for Thailand's future with changes to the law, such as no statute of limitations on corruption cases, a progressive land tax