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I was just looking at FlightRradar24 at planes near Chiangmai and noticed AIQ3439 having to make a very very tight circle over Lamphun. Looks as if it came very very close to another flight. All is well that ends well though.

I think Airtraffic were a bit busy handling a VIP flght that just landed and had 3 or 4 planes on hold.

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I think Airtraffic were a bit busy handling a VIP flght that just landed

shes left bangkok for childrens day ?

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Not sure but the last numbers of the Royal Thai Airforce VIP plane's callsign was "555" smile.png

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No way flight radar 24 is sensitive enough in detail for you to draw that conclusionSent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Agree, sometime the plane is over lamphun before it even appears to have taken off.

Someone will correct me but I think a near miss is reportable when two planes come within 3 miles of eachother horizontally or 1000ft vertically......which is a big distance to avert unless a plane is coming at 600mph head on I suppose.

And it seems there is no one out there beyond lamphun with a transponder so don't alarm us when a plane falls out of the sky at lamps will you?

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Yeah...sky fall much. Best you not go view some American real busy airport radar....you'll be a wreck

Possibly but I have worked with JACMAS radar at a major airport in particuly bad conditions and I do not think I a am a wreck. I am aware incidents happen every day, In fact several times a day within some airspaces.

In this case there were 3 flights diverted for the vip they overflew and tuned in a circle to way South of Lamhun and started an aproach. The airasia flight was faster than the nok flight and caught up with the nok flight preceding it which was slightly above and descending too. The Airasia made a full descending left turn (not an orbit) andregained its position behind the nok plane.

While flightradar24 does not have great precisision it is accurate to within less than than mile.

Proper action was taken and the worst would be the pilot needing to change his trousers as all passengers would have been seated and belted in at the time.

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Interesting! I've been fascinated with the series Air Crash 2013 and recently saw an episode in which two planes: one from Kazakhstan and one from Saudi Arabia collided in midair although the controller had placed them 1000 feet apart vertically. With the number of planes in the sky, I wouldn't be surprised if there were many near misses every day although in my 40 years of flying as a passenger, I've never experienced one (I think).

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Interesting! I've been fascinated with the series Air Crash 2013 and recently saw an episode in which two planes: one from Kazakhstan and one from Saudi Arabia collided in midair although the controller had placed them 1000 feet apart vertically. With the number of planes in the sky, I wouldn't be surprised if there were many near misses every day although in my 40 years of flying as a passenger, I've never experienced one (I think).

Lots of misses but very few collisions. I think this was one of those but others think not. Who knows, was interesting to watch and a relief when the plane turned.

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No way flight radar 24 is sensitive enough in detail for you to draw that conclusionSent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Agree, sometime the plane is over lamphun before it even appears to have taken off.

Someone will correct me but I think a near miss is reportable when two planes come within 3 miles of eachother horizontally or 1000ft vertically......which is a big distance to avert unless a plane is coming at 600mph head on I suppose.

And it seems there is no one out there beyond lamphun with a transponder so don't alarm us when a plane falls out of the sky at lamps will you?

I was once on a Nok air flight Bangkok to Hat yai. Half way across the gulf we passed another tiger airlines flight coming the other way. We were close enough that I could read the call sign of the plane. Absolutely no vertical seperation to speak of and obviously far to close horizontally. Given that I noticed no attempt by the plane I was in to change course I can only assume they were playing some sort of stupid game.

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Yeah...sky fall much. Best you not go view some American real busy airport radar....you'll be a wreck

Possibly but I have worked with JACMAS radar at a major airport in particuly bad conditions and I do not think I a am a wreck. I am aware incidents happen every day, In fact several times a day within some airspaces.

In this case there were 3 flights diverted for the vip they overflew and tuned in a circle to way South of Lamhun and started an aproach. The airasia flight was faster than the nok flight and caught up with the nok flight preceding it which was slightly above and descending too. The Airasia made a full descending left turn (not an orbit) andregained its position behind the nok plane.

While flightradar24 does not have great precisision it is accurate to within less than than mile.

Proper action was taken and the worst would be the pilot needing to change his trousers as all passengers would have been seated and belted in at the time.

You here on a busman's holiday or just addicted to plane spotting?

I have a sense that if that was my day job I would be happy to leave it behind. If anything interesting happens I'll see it on the news- maybe...

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Yeah...sky fall much. Best you not go view some American real busy airport radar....you'll be a wreck

Possibly but I have worked with JACMAS radar at a major airport in particuly bad conditions and I do not think I a am a wreck. I am aware incidents happen every day, In fact several times a day within some airspaces.

In this case there were 3 flights diverted for the vip they overflew and tuned in a circle to way South of Lamhun and started an aproach. The airasia flight was faster than the nok flight and caught up with the nok flight preceding it which was slightly above and descending too. The Airasia made a full descending left turn (not an orbit) andregained its position behind the nok plane.

While flightradar24 does not have great precisision it is accurate to within less than than mile.

Proper action was taken and the worst would be the pilot needing to change his trousers as all passengers would have been seated and belted in at the time.

You here on a busman's holiday or just addicted to plane spotting?

I have a sense that if that was my day job I would be happy to leave it behind. If anything interesting happens I'll see it on the news- maybe...

I gave that up 40 years ago. I only posted to show that I would not exactly be a wreck if I saw what happened in busy airspace.

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No way flight radar 24 is sensitive enough in detail for you to draw that conclusionSent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Agree, sometime the plane is over lamphun before it even appears to have taken off.

Someone will correct me but I think a near miss is reportable when two planes come within 3 miles of eachother horizontally or 1000ft vertically......which is a big distance to avert unless a plane is coming at 600mph head on I suppose.

And it seems there is no one out there beyond lamphun with a transponder so don't alarm us when a plane falls out of the sky at lamps will you?

I was once on a Nok air flight Bangkok to Hat yai. Half way across the gulf we passed another tiger airlines flight coming the other way. We were close enough that I could read the call sign of the plane. Absolutely no vertical seperation to speak of and obviously far to close horizontally. Given that I noticed no attempt by the plane I was in to change course I can only assume they were playing some sort of stupid game.

If you pass a plane coming the other way, doesn't it zip past at an insane speed, in a flash? (If it's that close)

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I was just on flight radar 34 and witnessed 37 planes landing on top of each other in Bangkok whew what mess that must be. I actually tried pushing planes away from each other with. Y thumb. Just instinct, I new it wouldn't help

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I was just on flight radar 34 and witnessed 37 planes landing on top of each other in Bangkok whew what mess that must be. I actually tried pushing planes away from each other with. Y thumb. Just instinct, I new it wouldn't help

We must have been on at the same time, cos I was trying to push them together. I've tried on my tablet pushing one into Doi Suthep as it takes off, but it never seems to work. Maybe an Ipad is better than my android chinese clone....

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I just put my thumb on the run way and then went outside to listen to the crash.

Heard nothing so will check citynews now for the story.

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No way flight radar 24 is sensitive enough in detail for you to draw that conclusionSent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Agree, sometime the plane is over lamphun before it even appears to have taken off.

Someone will correct me but I think a near miss is reportable when two planes come within 3 miles of eachother horizontally or 1000ft vertically......which is a big distance to avert unless a plane is coming at 600mph head on I suppose.

And it seems there is no one out there beyond lamphun with a transponder so don't alarm us when a plane falls out of the sky at lamps will you?

I was once on a Nok air flight Bangkok to Hat yai. Half way across the gulf we passed another tiger airlines flight coming the other way. We were close enough that I could read the call sign of the plane. Absolutely no vertical seperation to speak of and obviously far to close horizontally. Given that I noticed no attempt by the plane I was in to change course I can only assume they were playing some sort of stupid game.

If you pass a plane coming the other way, doesn't it zip past at an insane speed, in a flash? (If it's that close)

Yes the closing speed would have been around 1500KMH or better at a guess. At the time I just happened to be looking out the window and forward and saw a speck grow very quickly into a plane and then zip by.

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