Democrat Party to seek Thai court annulment of snap polls

[mojorison]

For the love of god, please close this thread...

have mercy on us all.

[xminator]

90% of the country turned up to vote. There cannot be a clearer indication that the PEOPLE disagrees with Mr. Suthep's call to boycott the election. Only think is the Mr. Suthep and the Democrats are blind to this obvious FACT.

No, you are wrong. 90% of the country did not turn up to vote. Jesus, can't you dimwitted Reds even get your basic facts straight? Go do a little reading and (possibly) you will be to figure out -- 9 or 10 hours later -- why, exactly, you are wrong.

He is using Suthep math.

[LevelHead]

If you did not vote in an election you cannot therefore take part as a potential politician in the next election.

All people who do not vote lose their rights to enter into an election.

The Democrat Party members who did not vote now could lose their chance to be a candidate in any future election, this is what is at stake and why they are desperate now to annul it.

Of course, you notice that Abhisit's poll station was closed and he could not vote. Provided he has written a letter to say he could not vote due to the poll station closed, he will not lose his right to be a candidate in future elections.

A lot of the poll stations that did not open appear to be directly linked to protecting Democrat ex-MP's who did not vote, by shutting them down those polling stations all those ex-Dem MP's can now write letters within 7 days explaining they did not vote due to polling station shut - and protect their future runs to run as a potential MP.

Someone needs to a write up of all polling stations in Bangkok which did not open or shut early - and note which ex-MP's should have voted at them - it might tell a very interesting story.

All in my opinion of course.

[kikoman]

What gives the Democrat party the right to file a suit on an Election, they as a party boycotted, that was lead by a protest by at least (9) members of that party and whose leadership and rank and file actively protested in the Anti-government demonstrations and the only constituencies that were closed or failed to field candidates to contest the election, are in areas that Democrat party voters dominate (10.90%) of the polling places actively block voters from fulfilling their Constitutional right to vote!

All this was done with the public backing of the Democrats, who publicly stated prior to the election that was their intentions!

PTP should begin a proactive campaign and file a sue to have the Democratic party dissolves for backing a non-constitutional and non Democratic appointed peoples counsel, The Democrats should also be sued for the disaster their protest cause to the city of Bangkok over the last 3 or 4 months and for the cost of the election, by their fascist tactic and boycott of the royally decreed election that clearly abided by the dictation of the Thai constitution.

It is plain that the ex ruling elite is hell bend on forcing a civil war in Bangkok, though the actions of their puppet EC and court system.

The nation has been very careful not to offer the EC a reason to cancel the election, the EC by putting off the advance election for 3 more weeks and in hopes that the Court will nullify the election, and the EC will not be required to post the election results. results.

The issue was not the results or who would win the election, but the if there was to be an a election at all , the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The EC and the Courts by following the dictates of their masters and not for the good of the nation, will set a Legal precedence that any minority in the future of Thailand can disrupt the will of the majority and will lead to additional decades of political unrest in Thailand!

Cheers

the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The PTP do not want the election nullified. But they sure do not want the results publicized. That will show there over all weakness. An election with no major opposition and I am thinking they get a lot less votes than they did when they had opposition. Going to prove embarrassing to them.

Not as embarrassing as claiming that 89% of the voters voted but never the less embarrassing. People like you willing to believe any thing is what they base their whole support on.

Most pathetic explanation for what happened in Thailand yesterday, done in the best Suthep way of deep logical thinking,

What part of that, do you not understand, "(89%) of Thai registered voters chose to vote"yesterday!

The Yellows and their backers were trying to stop the election and told all of it supporters not to vote, in contrast the Yingluck government stated that people should support the Thai Democracy and vote.

"89% of eligible voters voted in the February 2 national election, 10.9% of voters chose not to vote or were blocked from voting"

RESULTS: The Suthep, Democrat party, lost the election as (1 out of 10) voters backed the demonstrators call to boycott the election!

In sharp contrast (9 out of 10) Thai voters backed PTP position to vote.

All I have read today is the pathetic post from posters trying to "save face" as the real Thai majority, burst their bubble and voted in over whelming numbers!

I would laugh to, but I chose not to add insult to injury!

Cheers

Edited February 3, 2014 by kikoman

[whybother]

90% of the country turned up to vote. There cannot be a clearer indication that the PEOPLE disagrees with Mr. Suthep's call to boycott the election. Only think is the Mr. Suthep and the Democrats are blind to this obvious FACT.

Now I understand how where you got that 90% of the country turned up to vote. There was a 5000% turnout in Lamphun (population 400,000).

Election Commission resolves to have EC member Somchai carry on duty in poll administration; voter turnout highest in Lamphun at 20 million. /MCOT

Edited February 3, 2014 by whybother

[whybother]

Most pathetic explanation for what happened in Thailand yesterday, done in the best Suthep way of deep logical thinking,

What part of that, do you not understand, "(89%) of Thai registered voters chose to vote"yesterday!

The Yellows and their backers were trying to stop the election and told all of it supporters not to vote, in contrast the Yingluck government stated that people should support the Thai Democracy and vote.

"89% of eligible voters voted in the February 2 national election, 10.9% of voters chose not to vote or were blocked from voting"

RESULTS: The Suthep, Democrat party, lost the election as (1 out of 10) voters backed the demonstrators call to boycott the election!

In sharp contrast (9 out of 10) Thai voters backed PTP position to vote.

All I have read today is the pathetic post from posters trying to "save face" as thereal Thai majority, burst their bubble and voted in over whelming numbers!

I would laugh to, but I chose not to add insult to injury!

Cheers

89% of the voters did not vote. 89% of the polling booths were open. The EC is saying about 50% turned up to vote.

[icommunity]

So you are saying the election is not unconstitutional. So, follow the election laws when filing complaints to invalidate results.

Of course, the DEM can file complaint, but whether it should be accepted by court or not is why I came out with my arguments.

I also warn about the consequences of their childish action.

Actually, you said they have no legal right. You haven't shown any valid argument as to why they don't.

I didn't say the election is not unconstitutional.

Your posting #32 said

"I am not saying that the election is unconstitutional, but the reasons you give don't prove anything either way, and anyone has the right to ask the courts if they have a valid reason."

A person who fails to vote without explanation will lose his or her right to file any objection to the MP election and senatorial selection. He or she will also lose the right to apply for candidacy for national and local elections and to be nominated for the senatorial selection. At the same time, that person will not be allowed to apply for a position as a sub-district headman and village headman. These rights will be given back to a voter when he or she votes in the next election, at whatever level. In order to exercise their voting rights, voters must bring along their citizen identification cards or other official cards with a photo and the ID number of the card holder. A person intentionally destroying a ballot paper will be subject to a jail term of up to one year or a fine of up 20,000 baht, or both. These penalties may also include a revocation of voting rights for five years, by a court’s order.

Just because the Dem MPs didn't stand in the election does not mean that they didn't cast a vote.

Bad assumption to make.

Ya, they cast a vote outside of the legal electorale process - street mobs and street thugs, not respecting people's right to vote. Not forgetting their silent on the blocking of registration centres, distribution of ballot boxes and paper --- tire of naming more

[northernjohn]

For the love of god, please close this thread...

have mercy on us all.

Can't quite stop reading It can you. Just like a heron addict who is at the end and wants to stop but can't. LOL

[kikoman]

Most pathetic explanation for what happened in Thailand yesterday, done in the best Suthep way of deep logical thinking,

What part of that, do you not understand, "(89%) of Thai registered voters chose to vote"yesterday!

The Yellows and their backers were trying to stop the election and told all of it supporters not to vote, in contrast the Yingluck government stated that people should support the Thai Democracy and vote.

"89% of eligible voters voted in the February 2 national election, 10.9% of voters chose not to vote or were blocked from voting"

RESULTS: The Suthep, Democrat party, lost the election as (1 out of 10) voters backed the demonstrators call to boycott the election!

In sharp contrast (9 out of 10) Thai voters backed PTP position to vote.

All I have read today is the pathetic post from posters trying to "save face" as thereal Thai majority, burst their bubble and voted in over whelming numbers!

I would laugh to, but I chose not to add insult to injury!

Cheers

89% of the voters did not vote. 89% of the polling booths were open. The EC is saying about 50% turned up to vote.

Did the EC tell you that personally and refused to release that information to the rest of Thailand, Or did you just assume that, state your references, would greatly help!

Cheers

[whybother]

90% of the country turned up to vote. There cannot be a clearer indication that the PEOPLE disagrees with Mr. Suthep's call to boycott the election. Only think is the Mr. Suthep and the Democrats are blind to this obvious FACT.

Now I understand how where you got that 90% of the country turned up to vote. There was a 5000% turnout in Lamphun (population 400,000).

Election Commission resolves to have EC member Somchai carry on duty in poll administration; voter turnout highest in Lamphun at 20 million. /MCOT

RT@ChadapornLin: Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

[Thaddeus]

What gives the Democrat party the right to file a suit on an Election, they as a party boycotted, that was lead by a protest by at least (9) members of that party and whose leadership and rank and file actively protested in the Anti-government demonstrations and the only constituencies that were closed or failed to field candidates to contest the election, are in areas that Democrat party voters dominate (10.90%) of the polling places actively block voters from fulfilling their Constitutional right to vote!

All this was done with the public backing of the Democrats, who publicly stated prior to the election that was their intentions!

PTP should begin a proactive campaign and file a sue to have the Democratic party dissolves for backing a non-constitutional and non Democratic appointed peoples counsel, The Democrats should also be sued for the disaster their protest cause to the city of Bangkok over the last 3 or 4 months and for the cost of the election, by their fascist tactic and boycott of the royally decreed election that clearly abided by the dictation of the Thai constitution.

It is plain that the ex ruling elite is hell bend on forcing a civil war in Bangkok, though the actions of their puppet EC and court system.

The nation has been very careful not to offer the EC a reason to cancel the election, the EC by putting off the advance election for 3 more weeks and in hopes that the Court will nullify the election, and the EC will not be required to post the election results. results.

The issue was not the results or who would win the election, but the if there was to be an a election at all , the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The EC and the Courts by following the dictates of their masters and not for the good of the nation, will set a Legal precedence that any minority in the future of Thailand can disrupt the will of the majority and will lead to additional decades of political unrest in Thailand!

Cheers

the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The PTP do not want the election nullified. But they sure do not want the results publicized. That will show there over all weakness. An election with no major opposition and I am thinking they get a lot less votes than they did when they had opposition. Going to prove embarrassing to them.

Not as embarrassing as claiming that 89% of the voters voted but never the less embarrassing. People like you willing to believe any thing is what they base their whole support on.

Most pathetic explanation for what happened in Thailand yesterday, done in the best Suthep way of deep logical thinking,

What part of that, do you not understand, "(89%) of Thai registered voters chose to vote"yesterday!

No they didn't...... it was 53% in the North and North East and far less than 30% in other parts of the country

Failing to understand a lie is quite sensible in my opinion.

But keep digging that hole.

[whybother]

89% of the voters did not vote. 89% of the polling booths were open. The EC is saying about 50% turned up to vote.

Did the EC tell you that personally and refused to release that information to the rest of Thailand, Or did you just assume that, state your references, would greatly help!

Cheers

It has been reported in a few places. But here is a new one.

RT@ChadapornLin: Election Commission: voter turnout for yesterday was 45.84% or 20 million voters

[Thait Spot]

Well, your grammar and spelling errors see to shed some light on your level of education as well.

You did mean to say Moron right? Furthermore there is no letter "s" in Math which is the abbreviation of Mathematics.

Maroon is a type of color - something like a deep shade of red.

Moron is what you are...

90% of the country turned up to vote. There cannot be a clearer indication that the PEOPLE disagrees with Mr. Suthep's call to boycott the election. Only think is the Mr. Suthep and the Democrats are blind to this obvious FACT.

90%???

What a maroon! LMAO

Are you saying this to prove you are an idiot about maths, or is there some deeper trouble??

Actually, in English it is called maths.

In the US they don't use the s for some reason.

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[Dave121]

Those individuals, groups, parties who boycotted the 2 Feb 2014 election has no legal right to petition for the invalidation of election results.

The election was called, planned nationwide according to the 2007 constitution election law that was amended by DEM led government.

Had anyone petitioned to the court that the election was unconstitutional before the election?

They have all the right in the world to seek nullification.

1. They are a political party despite boycotting elections, they are still a political party.

2. They are voters and have their right to question a failed and badly organized election.

3. The election turnout was shambolic with many constituencies seeing as low as 20% turnout.

4. Of the tiny amount who turned out, the count of the 'no vote' is said to be incredibly high.

5. Of those who actually voted for a party, the amount would be a huge vote of 'NO CONFIDENCE' toi any emerging government from these polls.

The combination of the above would suggest in ANY democratic country that these elections have failed, and will continue to fail even after the other constituencies have their ballots completed.

In the 2011 elections where the EC declared a 'landslide' result for PTP when you actually looked at the figures, their vote count was actually only 35% of the entire nationwide electorate. They may have won on paper, but 35% hardly represents a 'mandate from the people'.

So with all the new statistics, I should expect this mandate to be under 20% of the electorate, and that can NOT represent a mandate of the majority, more like a mandate from the 'minority' and as such should NOT qualify them as a democratically elected government with 'legitimacy' especially adding the fact that almost the entire government are under at least one and in some cases many many investigations for graft, corruption, negligence, dereliction of duty, and I would not be surprised if 'election fraud' would be added in the near future.

So regardless of who is petitioning courts for a nullification. I would say that all the ingredients were there for it to be nullified.

The biggest victims of this election are the rice farmers, that is why it should never have been run in the first place. If they are annulled the farmers have a chance of being paid faster, if they don't annul them, then this caretaker government may end up sitting without the ability to pay for up to 6 months. That will take the delay in payments up to 1 year.

This government just wasted 2 months. They should have agreed to allow 'election reforms' to be conducted, and would have been completed in a month. Then the Dems would have probably joined the next election and been happy to do so, then once the new government chosen, the rest of the reform work could have been started, and even the protests would have been put on hold. But no..... this government wants no reform before elections.

It would have been a worthy compromise to start with election reform, then move on to the rest of the reforms separately, the Dems could never refuse that compromise. But Thaksin does not compromise.

[northernjohn]

What gives the Democrat party the right to file a suit on an Election, they as a party boycotted, that was lead by a protest by at least (9) members of that party and whose leadership and rank and file actively protested in the Anti-government demonstrations and the only constituencies that were closed or failed to field candidates to contest the election, are in areas that Democrat party voters dominate (10.90%) of the polling places actively block voters from fulfilling their Constitutional right to vote!

All this was done with the public backing of the Democrats, who publicly stated prior to the election that was their intentions!

PTP should begin a proactive campaign and file a sue to have the Democratic party dissolves for backing a non-constitutional and non Democratic appointed peoples counsel, The Democrats should also be sued for the disaster their protest cause to the city of Bangkok over the last 3 or 4 months and for the cost of the election, by their fascist tactic and boycott of the royally decreed election that clearly abided by the dictation of the Thai constitution.

It is plain that the ex ruling elite is hell bend on forcing a civil war in Bangkok, though the actions of their puppet EC and court system.

The nation has been very careful not to offer the EC a reason to cancel the election, the EC by putting off the advance election for 3 more weeks and in hopes that the Court will nullify the election, and the EC will not be required to post the election results. results.

The issue was not the results or who would win the election, but the if there was to be an a election at all , the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The EC and the Courts by following the dictates of their masters and not for the good of the nation, will set a Legal precedence that any minority in the future of Thailand can disrupt the will of the majority and will lead to additional decades of political unrest in Thailand!

Cheers

the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The PTP do not want the election nullified. But they sure do not want the results publicized. That will show there over all weakness. An election with no major opposition and I am thinking they get a lot less votes than they did when they had opposition. Going to prove embarrassing to them.

Not as embarrassing as claiming that 89% of the voters voted but never the less embarrassing. People like you willing to believe any thing is what they base their whole support on.

Most pathetic explanation for what happened in Thailand yesterday, done in the best Suthep way of deep logical thinking,

What part of that, do you not understand, "(89%) of Thai registered voters chose to vote"yesterday!

The Yellows and their backers were trying to stop the election and told all of it supporters not to vote, in contrast the Yingluck government stated that people should support the Thai Democracy and vote.

"89% of eligible voters voted in the February 2 national election, 10.9% of voters chose not to vote or were blocked from voting"

RESULTS: The Suthep, Democrat party, lost the election as (1 out of 10) voters backed the demonstrators call to boycott the election!

In sharp contrast (9 out of 10) Thai voters backed PTP position to vote.

All I have read today is the pathetic post from posters trying to "save face" as the real Thai majority, burst their bubble and voted in over whelming numbers!

I would laugh to, but I chose not to add insult to injury!

Cheers

It was 89% of the polls were open. It will be a while before we get the total number of votes.

when we do you will be able to tell us how big percentage voted. In the mean time troll on

[kikoman]

Until the EC publicly release the voting results, one can only go on the information the newspaper uses,

The shut down failed miserably, with the election happening all over Thailand. We personally took our family members to vote in Wang Muang, Uthai Thani and Nakhon Sawan where a mass of voters were voting, it is not how they voted it is that they chose the Thai Democracy's option to vote.

Anyway you look at it the shut-down and boycott did not work!

Cheers

[Thait Spot]

What gives the Democrat party the right to file a suit on an Election, they as a party boycotted, that was lead by a protest by at least (9) members of that party and whose leadership and rank and file actively protested in the Anti-government demonstrations and the only constituencies that were closed or failed to field candidates to contest the election, are in areas that Democrat party voters dominate (10.90%) of the polling places actively block voters from fulfilling their Constitutional right to vote!

All this was done with the public backing of the Democrats, who publicly stated prior to the election that was their intentions!

PTP should begin a proactive campaign and file a sue to have the Democratic party dissolves for backing a non-constitutional and non Democratic appointed peoples counsel, The Democrats should also be sued for the disaster their protest cause to the city of Bangkok over the last 3 or 4 months and for the cost of the election, by their fascist tactic and boycott of the royally decreed election that clearly abided by the dictation of the Thai constitution.

It is plain that the ex ruling elite is hell bend on forcing a civil war in Bangkok, though the actions of their puppet EC and court system.

The nation has been very careful not to offer the EC a reason to cancel the election, the EC by putting off the advance election for 3 more weeks and in hopes that the Court will nullify the election, and the EC will not be required to post the election results. results.

The issue was not the results or who would win the election, but the if there was to be an a election at all , the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The EC and the Courts by following the dictates of their masters and not for the good of the nation, will set a Legal precedence that any minority in the future of Thailand can disrupt the will of the majority and will lead to additional decades of political unrest in Thailand!

Cheers

the overwhelming majority chose the election process and voted, that "majority of 89%" of the eligible voters in Thailand.

The PTP do not want the election nullified. But they sure do not want the results publicized. That will show there over all weakness. An election with no major opposition and I am thinking they get a lot less votes than they did when they had opposition. Going to prove embarrassing to them.

Not as embarrassing as claiming that 89% of the voters voted but never the less embarrassing. People like you willing to believe any thing is what they base their whole support on.

Most pathetic explanation for what happened in Thailand yesterday, done in the best Suthep way of deep logical thinking,

What part of that, do you not understand, "(89%) of Thai registered voters chose to vote"yesterday!

The Yellows and their backers were trying to stop the election and told all of it supporters not to vote, in contrast the Yingluck government stated that people should support the Thai Democracy and vote.

"89% of eligible voters voted in the February 2 national election, 10.9% of voters chose not to vote or were blocked from voting"

RESULTS: The Suthep, Democrat party, lost the election as (1 out of 10) voters backed the demonstrators call to boycott the election!

In sharp contrast (9 out of 10) Thai voters backed PTP position to vote.

All I have read today is the pathetic post from posters trying to "save face" as the real Thai majority, burst their bubble and voted in over whelming numbers!

I would laugh to, but I chose not to add insult to injury!

Cheers

I think its time for you to invest in a back hoe

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[saltandpepper]

90% of the country turned up to vote. There cannot be a clearer indication that the PEOPLE disagrees with Mr. Suthep's call to boycott the election. Only think is the Mr. Suthep and the Democrats are blind to this obvious FACT.

90%???

What a maroon! LMAO

Are you saying this to prove you are an idiot about maths, or is there some deeper trouble??

Well, your grammar and spelling errors see to shed some light on your level of education as well.

You did mean to say Moron right? Furthermore there is no letter "s" in Math which is the abbreviation of Mathematics.

Maroon is a type of color - something like a deep shade of red.

Moron is what you are...

"Maths" is British and Australian term used for mathematics.

"Maroon" is a term used by bugs bunny http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maroon

89% was the number of polling booths, not the number of voters.

Now, that's quite a lesson! Well done Whybother!

[metisdead]

An inflammatory post has been removed as well as the reply posts.

[northernjohn]

Until the EC publicly release the voting results, one can only go on the information the newspaper uses,

The shut down failed miserably, with the election happening all over Thailand. We personally took our family members to vote in Wang Muang, Uthai Thani and Nakhon Sawan where a mass of voters were voting, it is not how they voted it is that they chose the Thai Democracy's option to vote.

Anyway you look at it the shut-down and boycott did not work!

Cheers

So you have finally figured it out. Common sense tells us that 89% of eligible voters never vote.

[Roadman]

Those individuals, groups, parties who boycotted the 2 Feb 2014 election has no legal right to petition for the invalidation of election results.

The election was called, planned nationwide according to the 2007 constitution election law that was amended by DEM led government.

Had anyone petitioned to the court that the election was unconstitutional before the election?

They have all the right in the world to seek nullification.

1. They are a political party despite boycotting elections, they are still a political party.

2. They are voters and have their right to question a failed and badly organized election.

3. The election turnout was shambolic with many constituencies seeing as low as 20% turnout.

4. Of the tiny amount who turned out, the count of the 'no vote' is said to be incredibly high.

5. Of those who actually voted for a party, the amount would be a huge vote of 'NO CONFIDENCE' toi any emerging government from these polls.

The combination of the above would suggest in ANY democratic country that these elections have failed, and will continue to fail even after the other constituencies have their ballots completed.

In the 2011 elections where the EC declared a 'landslide' result for PTP when you actually looked at the figures, their vote count was actually only 35% of the entire nationwide electorate. They may have won on paper, but 35% hardly represents a 'mandate from the people'.

So with all the new statistics, I should expect this mandate to be under 20% of the electorate, and that can NOT represent a mandate of the majority, more like a mandate from the 'minority' and as such should NOT qualify them as a democratically elected government with 'legitimacy' especially adding the fact that almost the entire government are under at least one and in some cases many many investigations for graft, corruption, negligence, dereliction of duty, and I would not be surprised if 'election fraud' would be added in the near future.

So regardless of who is petitioning courts for a nullification. I would say that all the ingredients were there for it to be nullified.

The biggest victims of this election are the rice farmers, that is why it should never have been run in the first place. If they are annulled the farmers have a chance of being paid faster, if they don't annul them, then this caretaker government may end up sitting without the ability to pay for up to 6 months. That will take the delay in payments up to 1 year.

This government just wasted 2 months. They should have agreed to allow 'election reforms' to be conducted, and would have been completed in a month. Then the Dems would have probably joined the next election and been happy to do so, then once the new government chosen, the rest of the reform work could have been started, and even the protests would have been put on hold. But no..... this government wants no reform before elections.

It would have been a worthy compromise to start with election reform, then move on to the rest of the reforms separately, the Dems could never refuse that compromise. But Thaksin does not compromise.

Excellent post.

[icommunity]

Those individuals, groups, parties who boycotted the 2 Feb 2014 election has no legal right to petition for the invalidation of election results.

The election was called, planned nationwide according to the 2007 constitution election law that was amended by DEM led government.

Had anyone petitioned to the court that the election was unconstitutional before the election?

They have all the right in the world to seek nullification.

1. They are a political party despite boycotting elections, they are still a political party.

2. They are voters and have their right to question a failed and badly organized election.

3. The election turnout was shambolic with many constituencies seeing as low as 20% turnout.

4. Of the tiny amount who turned out, the count of the 'no vote' is said to be incredibly high.

5. Of those who actually voted for a party, the amount would be a huge vote of 'NO CONFIDENCE' toi any emerging government from these polls.

The combination of the above would suggest in ANY democratic country that these elections have failed, and will continue to fail even after the other constituencies have their ballots completed.

In the 2011 elections where the EC declared a 'landslide' result for PTP when you actually looked at the figures, their vote count was actually only 35% of the entire nationwide electorate. They may have won on paper, but 35% hardly represents a 'mandate from the people'.

So with all the new statistics, I should expect this mandate to be under 20% of the electorate, and that can NOT represent a mandate of the majority, more like a mandate from the 'minority' and as such should NOT qualify them as a democratically elected government with 'legitimacy' especially adding the fact that almost the entire government are under at least one and in some cases many many investigations for graft, corruption, negligence, dereliction of duty, and I would not be surprised if 'election fraud' would be added in the near future.

So regardless of who is petitioning courts for a nullification. I would say that all the ingredients were there for it to be nullified.

The biggest victims of this election are the rice farmers, that is why it should never have been run in the first place. If they are annulled the farmers have a chance of being paid faster, if they don't annul them, then this caretaker government may end up sitting without the ability to pay for up to 6 months. That will take the delay in payments up to 1 year.

This government just wasted 2 months. They should have agreed to allow 'election reforms' to be conducted, and would have been completed in a month. Then the Dems would have probably joined the next election and been happy to do so, then once the new government chosen, the rest of the reform work could have been started, and even the protests would have been put on hold. But no..... this government wants no reform before elections.

It would have been a worthy compromise to start with election reform, then move on to the rest of the reforms separately, the Dems could never refuse that compromise. But Thaksin does not compromise.

Since voting is complusory, a person who fails to vote without explanation will lose his or her right to file any objection to the MP election and senatorial selection. He or she will also lose the right to apply for candidacy for national and local elections and to be nominated for the senatorial selection. At the same time, that person will not be allowed to apply for a position as a subdistrict headman and village headman. These rights will be given back to a voter when he or she votes in the next election, at whatever level. In order to exercise their voting rights, voters must bring along their citizen identification cards or other official cards with a photo and the ID number of the card holder. A person intentionally destroying a ballot paper will be subject to a jail term of up to one year or a fine of up 20,000 baht, or both. These penalties may also include a revocation of voting rights for five years, by a court’s order.

Reforms in one month??? Election reform? The DEM want to change the rule they changed before the 2011 election??? Compromised? When had the DEM compromised??? Why must it be reformed before election - compromised? Why it rejected the reform initiative months before house dissolved - compromised?

House dissolution was demanded by the DEM and when it happened, they boycotted it.

2011 GE statistic - was it a GE or a national referendum.? 2011 election was conducted and campaigned on a constituency and party list strategy by all parties.

The rest of your figure is just assumption and speculation at the moment. However, my speculation is that the 'no' votes are from the DEM and its PDRC/PCAD. They supported the election but the party had betrayed them for boycotting the election.

[whybother]

Since voting is complusory, a person who fails to vote without explanation will lose his or her right to file any objection to the MP election and senatorial selection. He or she will also lose the right to apply for candidacy for national and local elections and to be nominated for the senatorial selection. At the same time, that person will not be allowed to apply for a position as a subdistrict headman and village headman. These rights will be given back to a voter when he or she votes in the next election, at whatever level. In order to exercise their voting rights, voters must bring along their citizen identification cards or other official cards with a photo and the ID number of the card holder. A person intentionally destroying a ballot paper will be subject to a jail term of up to one year or a fine of up 20,000 baht, or both. These penalties may also include a revocation of voting rights for five years, by a court’s order.

Reforms in one month??? Election reform? The DEM want to change the rule they changed before the 2011 election??? Compromised? When had the DEM compromised??? Why must it be reformed before election - compromised? Why it rejected the reform initiative months before house dissolved - compromised?

House dissolution was demanded by the DEM and when it happened, they boycotted it.

2011 GE statistic - was it a GE or a national referendum.? 2011 election was conducted and campaigned on a constituency and party list strategy by all parties.

The rest of your figure is just assumption and speculation at the moment. However, my speculation is that the 'no' votes are from the DEM and its PDRC/PCAD. They supported the election but the party had betrayed them for boycotting the election.

Do you know if all Democrats didn't vote? If some of them voted, then they have the right to petition the courts.

[kikoman]

In the 2011 elections where the EC declared a 'landslide' result for PTP when you actually looked at the figures, their vote count was actually only 35% of the entire nationwide electorate. They may have won on paper, but 35% hardly represents a 'mandate from the people'.

Kikoman:

The figures I have differ greatly from the one you posted (35%) is wrong, but giving you the benefit of the doubt that you may have been confused by the election percentages.

en.Wikipedia.org states the Official turnout as (75.03%) B. P. newspaper Unofficial turnout was (65.99%) printed in the newspaper as results of that election!

PTP received (48.41%) and the Democrats received (35.15%) of the total votes cast!

Cheers

Edited February 3, 2014 by kikoman

[icommunity]

Since voting is complusory, a person who fails to vote without explanation will lose his or her right to file any objection to the MP election and senatorial selection. He or she will also lose the right to apply for candidacy for national and local elections and to be nominated for the senatorial selection. At the same time, that person will not be allowed to apply for a position as a subdistrict headman and village headman. These rights will be given back to a voter when he or she votes in the next election, at whatever level. In order to exercise their voting rights, voters must bring along their citizen identification cards or other official cards with a photo and the ID number of the card holder. A person intentionally destroying a ballot paper will be subject to a jail term of up to one year or a fine of up 20,000 baht, or both. These penalties may also include a revocation of voting rights for five years, by a court’s order.

Reforms in one month??? Election reform? The DEM want to change the rule they changed before the 2011 election??? Compromised? When had the DEM compromised??? Why must it be reformed before election - compromised? Why it rejected the reform initiative months before house dissolved - compromised?

House dissolution was demanded by the DEM and when it happened, they boycotted it.

2011 GE statistic - was it a GE or a national referendum.? 2011 election was conducted and campaigned on a constituency and party list strategy by all parties.

The rest of your figure is just assumption and speculation at the moment. However, my speculation is that the 'no' votes are from the DEM and its PDRC/PCAD. They supported the election but the party had betrayed them for boycotting the election.

Do you know if all Democrats didn't vote? If some of them voted, then they have the right to petition the courts.

Of course, voters who voted has the right to file petition the EC.

[metisdead]

A post replying to previously removed inflammatory posts has been removed.

[Publicus]

"He called on the caretaker government to revoke the Emergency Decree which, he claimed, has negatively impacted on tourism, foreigners' confidence in the country and the country's economy."

Of course the fascist initiated insurrection to overthrow the legitimately elected democratic government and to violently stop the election has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Edited February 3, 2014 by Publicus

[kikoman]

Since voting is complusory, a person who fails to vote without explanation will lose his or her right to file any objection to the MP election and senatorial selection. He or she will also lose the right to apply for candidacy for national and local elections and to be nominated for the senatorial selection. At the same time, that person will not be allowed to apply for a position as a subdistrict headman and village headman. These rights will be given back to a voter when he or she votes in the next election, at whatever level. In order to exercise their voting rights, voters must bring along their citizen identification cards or other official cards with a photo and the ID number of the card holder. A person intentionally destroying a ballot paper will be subject to a jail term of up to one year or a fine of up 20,000 baht, or both. These penalties may also include a revocation of voting rights for five years, by a court’s order.

Reforms in one month??? Election reform? The DEM want to change the rule they changed before the 2011 election??? Compromised? When had the DEM compromised??? Why must it be reformed before election - compromised? Why it rejected the reform initiative months before house dissolved - compromised?

House dissolution was demanded by the DEM and when it happened, they boycotted it.

2011 GE statistic - was it a GE or a national referendum.? 2011 election was conducted and campaigned on a constituency and party list strategy by all parties.

The rest of your figure is just assumption and speculation at the moment. However, my speculation is that the 'no' votes are from the DEM and its PDRC/PCAD. They supported the election but the party had betrayed them for boycotting the election.

Do you know if all Democrats didn't vote? If some of them voted, then they have the right to petition the courts.

The party publicly and officially boycotted the Election, an individual that can prove he voted as per the record has a right to do whatever, but the Democrats party (IE: the party) boycotted the election and should not have any legal right to contest the election in the name of the (Democrat party).

Cheers

[retsdon]

He must be nuts... its not the emergency decree that impacted tourism and economy , it's the "peaceful' rallies that did it. No one wants to try their "luck" and to to a place with such stuff going on, emergency decree or not. Foreigner confidence as well, whoever wants to invedt and keep their money in a place with questionable tomorrow???? These guys really shoulx learn to take responsibility for their own actions and not blame it all on Taksin.

As for the elections... why on earth it should be invalidated ??? Just because they ignored it ?

He himself said :

"The general election is held and it has been proven that people's rallies have not created any violent incidents"

Yes it Was held and u guys blew it. Also it had proven that people rallies really gave a hard time to those wishing to cast their vote, no violent incidents???? Please.... are we even on the same planet with this guy ??????

As I said many times before, if you looked to see what made protester came out in the place, there you will find your answer. It's not the present problem that is the problem, it's always the past. Everyone know well that the YS administration committed crime by illegally amending the constitution. And now, we know that they have defrauded the taxpayers and the farmers. There are a lot more to add, but I am sure everyone on TV are fully aware of it. If you are not, I am sure many on here can clarify it for you, including me.

Let's be real, most of you came from somewhat functioning democracy, with the all things being done by this administration, wouldn't you think they would be out by now? Instead, all of you fell into the trap of an election. It is the election that the YS government is using to hide from their criminal acts and garner sympathy from the international community. As I see here on TV quite clearly, it's very effective.

Straight up!

"Instead, all of you fell into the trap of an election."

What do you mean 'fell into the trap of an election'? In a democracy elections are the ONLY game in town.

There are very few posters on these boards who are active supporters of the Shinawatra party - most everyone recognizes them for what they are. BUT if you want to get them out - you need to vote them out. The Democrats are both lazy and stupid. One, they're too lazy to put the work into organizing a proper political campaign. PTP didn't win 50% of the vote last time. They've made a complete balls up of running the country since. Many of PTPs erstwhile supporters are bouncing with fury over the rice scheme shambles. Others are waking up to the fact that all these populist policies like car subsidies and such just dig them further into the debt hole. PTP are reeling on the ropes politically. They're there for the taking at the ballot box.

So what do the gormless Democrats do? Instead of running a slick campaign with all the ammunition the PTP have given them, they hand Yingluck a lifeline by casting her as the defender of people's right to vote, as the voice of reason, as the mature democrat (in the true sense of the word) . And they do so by plunging the country into YET ANOTHER constitutional crisis in the hope that they might squeak into power again through the back door using their influence in the courts and corridors of power.

It really is time that the Democrat party GREW UP!

[kikoman]

My quote on post #84 was a response to dave121 and not icommunity, who's name I removed from my Quote, Sorry icommunity !

Cheers