First army division commander says no troop reduction in Bangkok

[Tatsujin]

mmmmm . . . almost daily shootings, grenade attacks, and most recently those two huge bombs they "defused" . . . and she's worried about the image of the country . . . how about worrying about catching some of these terrorists first of all . . . get the Police to do their <deleted> jobs for once.

[PepperMe]

mmmmm . . . almost daily shootings, grenade attacks, and most recently those two huge bombs they "defused" . . . and she's worried about the image of the country . . . how about worrying about catching some of these terrorists first of all . . . get the Police to do their <deleted> jobs for once.

If she was so seriously worried about the image of BKK/Thailand. Then she would insist the army stay and keep peace. Knowing the moment they were removed the world will get its fill of watching a mini civil war going on in the streets, that;s for sure.

This just highlights YL's stupidity yet again.

[Bpuumike]

looks like they are aware thet the reds will up the violence if they leave, they are the only thing keeping it under check at the moment. The police will simply let the reds do as they please, this is the only way to go till the protests are abandoned, will certainly p*ss of the ptp and reds but....

quite interesting, that yingluck wants the army away

Fortunately the Army are not listening to the PM, who also happens to be... Minister of Defence.

Good old Thailand, never fails to entertain, if only it weren't so serioius.

[Fryslan boppe]

"....the surge of violence against anti-government protesters and independent organizations such as the Court of Justice, the National Anti-Corruption Commission and the Election Commission"

Who writes this stuff?....Surge of violence?

Trying to characterize coup-monger shenanigans, attempts to sow disorder and a sense of ungovernability in support of their anti-democratic agenda's, plus generate explosions in order to increase a sense of crisis that is fabricated by those who cannot win an election. Thereby needing to force their way into power via non-electoral means............. as a surge of violence, is ridiculous.

But simply re-emphasizes the participation of the military in these affairs, pretending to be some sort of security thing.

Reminds me of the Russian spin about needing to safeguard its' citizens in Ukraine from non-existent threats, as an excuse for territorial encroachment.

So who should protect peaceful protestors if the police doesn't do it? Remember, 23 people got killed and the police have no clue who did it.

Demonizing the police is coup-monger agenda in order to justify the participation of their friends in the military......The MO being to denigrate the police, in order to aggrandize the military.

Not complicated.

So you are satisfied that the police are doing a good job in the hunting down of those responsible for the attacks on both PDRC and UDD protestors? You are satisfied that several weeks later no suspects are being sought after several children where blown up in a crowded market? You are satisfied that the police could and would handle the UDD violence against the establishment that they are threatening (and increasingly doing so) and lastly you are satisfied with the police performance regarding the 'divide thailand up' that the UDD leaders (including a couple of MP's) have been spewing these past few weeks?

If you answer yes to any of those... then you sir, are an idiot.

"...hunting down of those responsible for the attacks..."

key question....What is an 'attack' and what are gratuitous explosions for the sake of generating mayhem, or in other words, coup-mongers seeking to magnify their thing. It certainly serves the interests of the coup-mongers to characterize these as attacks, thereby making them mightily suspect.....They are not 'attacks'.

"....no suspects are being sought after several children where blown up in a crowded market?"

The police caught the 'seals' who did that, and they acknowledged doing it.....Like I said, police demonization and military aggrandizement....reality always intrudes, doesn't it.

" ....the police could and would handle the UDD violence against the establishment that they are threatening..."

The UDD/RS are preparing to challenge any nullification of their votes and theft of their Govt....again......There are warnings made to the Elites, their street stuff and their agencies/judiciary, to not even think about it....That is not violence.. And there will be no violence if Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy is respected. If votes are respected.....I expect that the PAD-Dem's, their military and agcy's/judiciary will be smart enough not to try it......I will ignore for the moment your reference to "the establishment"...Not sure what is meant by that.

".....police performance regarding the 'divide thailand up' that the UDD leaders (including a couple of MP's) have been spewing these past few weeks?"

Best you worry about what has been spewing forth from the coup-monger stages these past months. Those very same coup-mongers and their handlers attempts to deflect attention from their own idiocy by magnifying pro-Democracy demands, is seen for what it is....Including this phony attempt to create conditions for military intervention.

Like I said above, police demonization in order to aggrandize the coup-participatory military, is very obvious to non-PAD/Dems..

Edited March 19, 2014 by Fryslan boppe

[Thai at Heart]

Why would we leave, when we probably just have to turn right around and come back?

[lostinsurin]

The army have made a wise move to retain the troops in Bangkok notably after the Ko Tee threats with reference to what his street gangs reaction will be if the NACC rule against yingluck not to mention the 200 000 strong terrorist militia being formed in the north with access to 10 million weapons. The army commanders would have not forgotten where the police allegiances lie as well and rest assured they are not on the right side of the law as Senior Sergeant Major Daeng who is also a UDD leader in Chon Buri made very clear in the "beat the war drum" meeting. It is a travesty and an indication of the true illegitimacy of the government when the army have to protect the people from the police in red shirts while Ko Tee robs banks and loots fuel from service station with impunity because the police are busy terrorizing the people.

The army are the last bastion of law and order in this political climate and yingluck wants them out. She is very vocal on that front. Silent on the threats by Ko Tee on looting and arson though. Silent on the threats of a 200 000 street gang being formed with access to 10 million weapons. Silent on condemning Senior Sergeant Major Daeng. Makes herself heard on national TV when she alludes to the courts being biased yet not a sign of her on TV to denounce terrorist attacks. All self serving attempts at clinging to power while making it very clear what she truly represents. That is that unaccountability and terrorist actions are acceptable.

If you want the army out speak up yingluck and tell the majority how you will deal with Ko Tee and Jatuporns street gang. Can you make assurances they won't come out, that they will respect the rule of law? No, because not only is the PTP official stance now is they will not respect the rule of law, but also that you have lost grip on power and as a defense minister this typifies your lack of control. You may be surrounded by dim witted minsters and advisors, but the army don't come from that same cancerous pool you chose your ministers from yingluck.

Let the army stay, they will do F-all anyway, siting targets in their little bunkers while the 2-4-6-000 generals talk crap.

Edited March 19, 2014 by lostinsurin

[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts have been removed as well as a troll post.

[dru2]

The army have made a wise move to retain the troops in Bangkok notably after the Ko Tee threats with reference to what his street gangs reaction will be if the NACC rule against yingluck not to mention the 200 000 strong terrorist militia being formed in the north with access to 10 million weapons. The army commanders would have not forgotten where the police allegiances lie as well and rest assured they are not on the right side of the law as Senior Sergeant Major Daeng who is also a UDD leader in Chon Buri made very clear in the "beat the war drum" meeting. It is a travesty and an indication of the true illegitimacy of the government when the army have to protect the people from the police in red shirts while Ko Tee robs banks and loots fuel from service station with impunity because the police are busy terrorizing the people.

The army are the last bastion of law and order in this political climate and yingluck wants them out. She is very vocal on that front. Silent on the threats by Ko Tee on looting and arson though. Silent on the threats of a 200 000 street gang being formed with access to 10 million weapons. Silent on condemning Senior Sergeant Major Daeng. Makes herself heard on national TV when she alludes to the courts being biased yet not a sign of her on TV to denounce terrorist attacks. All self serving attempts at clinging to power while making it very clear what she truly represents. That is that unaccountability and terrorist actions are acceptable.

If you want the army out speak up yingluck and tell the majority how you will deal with Ko Tee and Jatuporns street gang. Can you make assurances they won't come out, that they will respect the rule of law? No, because not only is the PTP official stance now is they will not respect the rule of law, but also that you have lost grip on power and as a defense minister this typifies your lack of control. You may be surrounded by dim witted minsters and advisors, but the army don't come from that same cancerous pool you chose your ministers from yingluck.

Let the army stay, they will do F-all anyway, siting targets in their little bunkers while the 2-4-6-000 generals talk crap.

'Siting Targets' (sic) for whom? They are more than a match for a bunch of bombastic bullies led by cowards! Best you stay lost in Surin and polish your Khmer.

Edited March 19, 2014 by dru2

[djjamie]

The army have made a wise move to retain the troops in Bangkok notably after the Ko Tee threats with reference to what his street gangs reaction will be if the NACC rule against yingluck not to mention the 200 000 strong terrorist militia being formed in the north with access to 10 million weapons. The army commanders would have not forgotten where the police allegiances lie as well and rest assured they are not on the right side of the law as Senior Sergeant Major Daeng who is also a UDD leader in Chon Buri made very clear in the "beat the war drum" meeting. It is a travesty and an indication of the true illegitimacy of the government when the army have to protect the people from the police in red shirts while Ko Tee robs banks and loots fuel from service station with impunity because the police are busy terrorizing the people.

The army are the last bastion of law and order in this political climate and yingluck wants them out. She is very vocal on that front. Silent on the threats by Ko Tee on looting and arson though. Silent on the threats of a 200 000 street gang being formed with access to 10 million weapons. Silent on condemning Senior Sergeant Major Daeng. Makes herself heard on national TV when she alludes to the courts being biased yet not a sign of her on TV to denounce terrorist attacks. All self serving attempts at clinging to power while making it very clear what she truly represents. That is that unaccountability and terrorist actions are acceptable.

If you want the army out speak up yingluck and tell the majority how you will deal with Ko Tee and Jatuporns street gang. Can you make assurances they won't come out, that they will respect the rule of law? No, because not only is the PTP official stance now is they will not respect the rule of law, but also that you have lost grip on power and as a defense minister this typifies your lack of control. You may be surrounded by dim witted minsters and advisors, but the army don't come from that same cancerous pool you chose your ministers from yingluck.

Let the army stay, they will do F-all anyway, siting targets in their little bunkers while the 2-4-6-000 generals talk crap.

Ummmmm, OK then.

With that rebuttal you have outsmarted me again!!!

Got to wake up early to get one over you heay…...

[lostinsurin]

The army have made a wise move to retain the troops in Bangkok notably after the Ko Tee threats with reference to what his street gangs reaction will be if the NACC rule against yingluck not to mention the 200 000 strong terrorist militia being formed in the north with access to 10 million weapons. The army commanders would have not forgotten where the police allegiances lie as well and rest assured they are not on the right side of the law as Senior Sergeant Major Daeng who is also a UDD leader in Chon Buri made very clear in the "beat the war drum" meeting. It is a travesty and an indication of the true illegitimacy of the government when the army have to protect the people from the police in red shirts while Ko Tee robs banks and loots fuel from service station with impunity because the police are busy terrorizing the people.

The army are the last bastion of law and order in this political climate and yingluck wants them out. She is very vocal on that front. Silent on the threats by Ko Tee on looting and arson though. Silent on the threats of a 200 000 street gang being formed with access to 10 million weapons. Silent on condemning Senior Sergeant Major Daeng. Makes herself heard on national TV when she alludes to the courts being biased yet not a sign of her on TV to denounce terrorist attacks. All self serving attempts at clinging to power while making it very clear what she truly represents. That is that unaccountability and terrorist actions are acceptable.

If you want the army out speak up yingluck and tell the majority how you will deal with Ko Tee and Jatuporns street gang. Can you make assurances they won't come out, that they will respect the rule of law? No, because not only is the PTP official stance now is they will not respect the rule of law, but also that you have lost grip on power and as a defense minister this typifies your lack of control. You may be surrounded by dim witted minsters and advisors, but the army don't come from that same cancerous pool you chose your ministers from yingluck.

Let the army stay, they will do F-all anyway, siting targets in their little bunkers while the 2-4-6-000 generals talk crap.

'Siting Targets' (sic) for whom? They are more than a match for a bunch of bombastic bullies led by cowards! Best you stay lost in Surin and polish your Khmer.

Sorry forgot the h

[SheungWan]

Is the SOA is lifted the Army get out.

They are not a law unto themselves, they are only the army and they have to follow the law. The law is there is no troop deployment if there is no SOA.

So as the SOA is lifted there must be an order now to remove the troops. Or are the Army going to defy the Constitution and the Law of Thailand ?

He is correct they do not move until ordered, but once the order is given, they must get out.

All in my opinion of course.

The red call is out for the army to be removed so that the reds can mob the constitutional court with free rein. As usual the bogus reference to the constitution is exactly that. With Thaksin's cheerleaders you have to keep your eye on the ball.

Edited March 19, 2014 by SheungWan

[SheungWan]

"...hunting down of those responsible for the attacks..."

key question....What is an 'attack' and what are gratuitous explosions for the sake of generating mayhem, or in other words, coup-mongers seeking to magnify their thing. It certainly serves the interests of the coup-mongers to characterize these as attacks, thereby making them mightily suspect.....They are not 'attacks'.

"....no suspects are being sought after several children where blown up in a crowded market?"

The police caught the 'seals' who did that, and they acknowledged doing it.....Like I said, police demonization and military aggrandizement....reality always intrudes, doesn't it.

" ....the police could and would handle the UDD violence against the establishment that they are threatening..."

The UDD/RS are preparing to challenge any nullification of their votes and theft of their Govt....again......There are warnings made to the Elites, their street stuff and their agencies/judiciary, to not even think about it....That is not violence.. And there will be no violence if Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy is respected. If votes are respected.....I expect that the PAD-Dem's, their military and agcy's/judiciary will be smart enough not to try it......I will ignore for the moment your reference to "the establishment"...Not sure what is meant by that.

".....police performance regarding the 'divide thailand up' that the UDD leaders (including a couple of MP's) have been spewing these past few weeks?"

Best you worry about what has been spewing forth from the coup-monger stages these past months. Those very same coup-mongers and their handlers attempts to deflect attention from their own idiocy by magnifying pro-Democracy demands, is seen for what it is....Including this phony attempt to create conditions for military intervention.

Like I said above, police demonization in order to aggrandize the coup-participatory military, is very obvious to non-PAD/Dems..

The phony stuff is the smoke and mirrors attempt to clear a way through for the reds to attack the consitutional court on the streets. The SOV now in the way so a hurried removal and push for the army to 'retire'. The red mob always likes a clear run at their target if possible. As if the red cheerleader verbal machinations weren't so bloody obvious.

[SheungWan]

Slow-Motion-Putsch goes on...

Thaksin's long-term assault on state power is the slow-motion (and not so slow-motion) putsch.

[JamesDean3]

With the protesters still under almost daily attack it is disingenius for Yingluck to ask for the removal of the army security. Does she have any qualms about potential loss of lives even if these people are opposition. Does she not feel human at all ?