Asean to issue on statement on Thai political crisis

[moonao]

About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections.

No doubt we will see a mob of yellow thugs outside the Asean office in Thailand "protesting", burning effigies and so on asking for their right to prevent others having their right to vote, to be respected alt=cheesy.gif>

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies, hopefully more countries that have been holding back can grow a pair and step up to put pressure on the opposition and help to put and end to this nonsense.

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies

Really! that has to be the most idiotic comment ever! Did the yellow shirts threaten Asean ever?

geez, I wouldn't want to be your neighbor. Most people would be calling the police if they saw their neighbours house being raided by vandals while what ? you would be twiddling your thumbs waiting from a personal threat from them, directed at you specifically, before you felt you could act ? I think the prize goes to you, son.

Moonao, I am not sure if you understand a few of things about Asean/ AEC

IT Is about

• money,
• economic and backscratching
• increasing trade between these countries,
• trying to develop markets that allow them to have a home market big enough to support their producer

AND it was negotiated by government officials who have major financial/commercial interests in their own countries as a result of their various offices

The intergovernmental agreements between these countries explicitly say that they are not to interfere in each others domestic affairs (such as what is going is happening in Thailand now)

AND They know too much about each others affairs - that is why they have some level of trust between themselves.

Forget human rights - the agreement even sets aside long standing territorial disputes between many of the member states.

Please do some research before you repeat what you said before - you are making me feel sorry for you,

Your interpretation has too much emphisis on trade and money. There is a stability and peace component to ASEAN, that is one of their aims.

They are not the neighbour coming in to break up a domestic argument, just asking people to calm down.) not rocket science and no need to pretend you are smarter than you are.

Edited April 23, 2014 by moonao

[moonao]

About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections.

No doubt we will see a mob of yellow thugs outside the Asean office in Thailand "protesting", burning effigies and so on asking for their right to prevent others having their right to vote, to be respected alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20>

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies, hopefully more countries that have been holding back can grow a pair and step up to put pressure on the opposition and help to put and end to this nonsense.

I'd like to ask, why did you write, "About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections,", and only include Abhisit (who has not been instrumental in any protests), and Suthep, without mentioning Thaksin, Chalerm, Poo, Tarit, Nittirat, Jatuporn, amongst others?

Your posts are full of vacuums, with little content asserting to any reality of situations. Is your life so boring that you have to create self-illusion each day, and jump through your own hoops to pay for your internet connection to ream us silly? .. Oh! and ... width=32 alt=cheesy.gif> .... for your self-importance.

I'd like to ask, why did you write, "About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections,", and only include Abhisit

not sure, maybe its because his party boycotted the elections, duh and Suthep ? maybe because his supporters were blocking election booths ?

Edited April 23, 2014 by moonao

[winstonc]

About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections.

No doubt we will see a mob of yellow thugs outside the Asean office in Thailand "protesting", burning effigies and so on asking for their right to prevent others having their right to vote, to be respected

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies, hopefully more countries that have been holding back can grow a pair and step up to put pressure on the opposition and help to put and end to this nonsense.

I'd like to ask, why did you write, "About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections,", and only include Abhisit (who has not been instrumental in any protests), and Suthep, without mentioning Thaksin, Chalerm, Poo, Tarit, Nittirat, Jatuporn, amongst others?

Your posts are full of vacuums, with little content asserting to any reality of situations. Is your life so boring that you have to create self-illusion each day, and jump through your own hoops to pay for your internet connection to ream us silly? .. Oh! and ... .... for your self-importance.

you wont get an intelligent answer..if thats what your waiting for...always yellow..yellow fascist and suphep...not an ounce of credibility from her..

[scorecard]

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About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections.

No doubt we will see a mob of yellow thugs outside the Asean office in Thailand "protesting", burning effigies and so on asking for their right to prevent others having their right to vote, to be respected alt=cheesy.gif>

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies, hopefully more countries that have been holding back can grow a pair and step up to put pressure on the opposition and help to put and end to this nonsense.

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies

Really! that has to be the most idiotic comment ever! Did the yellow shirts threaten Asean ever?

geez, I wouldn't want to be your neighbor. Most people would be calling the police if they saw their neighbours house being raided by vandals while what ? you would be twiddling your thumbs waiting from a personal threat from them, directed at you specifically, before you felt you could act ? I think the prize goes to you, son.

Your getting more pathetic by the day. Haven't you noticed, it's all over.

Better cash in your chips now because the office will be closed soon and doubtful there will be any retrospective payments.

[BigMountain]

Yes elections are the only way out of this. Allow asean and the UN monitor, then put an elected govt in place. Its the only way forward

[issanaus]

Edited - no of quote blocks.

Moonao, I am not sure if you understand a few of things about Asean/ AEC

IT Is about

• money,
• economic and backscratching
• increasing trade between these countries,
• trying to develop markets that allow them to have a home market big enough to support their producer

AND it was negotiated by government officials who have major financial/commercial interests in their own countries as a result of their various offices

The intergovernmental agreements between these countries explicitly say that they are not to interfere in each others domestic affairs (such as what is going is happening in Thailand now)

AND They know too much about each others affairs - that is why they have some level of trust between themselves.

Forget human rights - the agreement even sets aside long standing territorial disputes between many of the member states.

Please do some research before you repeat what you said before - you are making me feel sorry for you,

Your interpretation has too much emphisis on trade and money. There is a stability and peace component to ASEAN, that is one of their aims.

They are not the neighbour coming in to break up a domestic argument, just asking people to calm down.) not rocket science and no need to pretend you are smarter than you are.

Where you are going wrong is that you are thinking what should be (rather than what is) It not about being smart - SE ASIA has been my back yard ALL my life

You are right - they would like things to settle down , because its bad for trade, not for any other reasons, However they don't want to be in the position of been seen as being critical just to have that shoved back in their face in a couple of years time or for any bad feelings to become a barrier to make money

[chrisrazz]

About time some international pressure is put on those in Thailand, Abhisit and Suthep included, to have elections.

No doubt we will see a mob of yellow thugs outside the Asean office in Thailand "protesting", burning effigies and so on asking for their right to prevent others having their right to vote, to be respected

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies, hopefully more countries that have been holding back can grow a pair and step up to put pressure on the opposition and help to put and end to this nonsense.

Kudos to Asean for standing up to these yellow shirt bullies

Really! that has to be the most idiotic comment ever! Did the yellow shirts threaten Asean ever?

No doubt they will when they find out they won't be running it!

[nong38]

Why not put the army in charge until the politicians have gown up enough to have an election they can abide by when they dont win?

[bigbamboo]

One of the extraordinary aspects of the Thai crisis is how little support the ASEAN nations have offered the government of one of it's members.

Of course it won't bother the big players like Singapore, Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia but Thailand's rivals in the second tier will be loving every minute! Except maybe Cambodia where Hun Sen could soon have a similar fight on his hands to Thaksin.

[JesseFrank]

And we have a winner! Surapong 'manipulated' these countries.

Maybe it's only me, but I really don't get it what is the point of making an announcement and showing a draft from a statement that's gonna be made officially for the whole world to hear in the next few days anyway.

The only thing I can think about is that it is one of those many announcements that this man has made in his career , which at the end turned out to be taken out of thin air.

[Boxclever]

OK I'm waiting for the pad/pdrc supporters to accuse Thaksin of 'buying' Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Vietnam.

like he bought this pro election statement with rice money.

Apart from a few exceptions in the list of ASEAN nations, which ones are totally democratic anyway?

Not about PAD / PRDC or whatever. None of the ASEAN mob are really free in their elections except probably Sinbgapore.

VIETNAM? Cambodia? China? Laos? Really what a bunch of jokes.

China is a member of ASEAN? and what member is Sinbgapore?

Edited April 23, 2014 by Boxclever

[JesseFrank]

OK I'm waiting for the pad/pdrc supporters to accuse Thaksin of 'buying' Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Vietnam.

like he bought this pro election statement with rice money.

Apart from a few exceptions in the list of ASEAN nations, which ones are totally democratic anyway?

Not about PAD / PRDC or whatever. None of the ASEAN mob are really free in their elections except probably Sinbgapore.

VIETNAM? Cambodia? China? Laos? Really what a bunch of jokes.

China is a member of ASEAN? shows your minimal knowledge on the subject ...and how about Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia...they don't count? are they too democratic to include in your list?

Let me answer that for Marcus.

Everybody, except you seemingly, knows that Indonesia is by far the most corrupt country in Asia regardless of the fact that Thailand is trying to get the crown for that.

If you had followed the news of what has happened to the popular opposition leader in Malaysia in the last decade, until just a 6 weeks ago, you should have known that Malaysia truly ( asia) doesn't fit in the picture of democracy as well

[Luk Mhee]

OK I'm waiting for the pad/pdrc supporters to accuse Thaksin of 'buying' Brunei, Cambodia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore and Vietnam.

like he bought this pro election statement with rice money.

Erm....

Surapong has manipulated the ASEAN states through his prepared one sided version of events and stoking a response from them to agree with him that the country needs elections.

Thaksin.... 'The UN is not my father'.

Thai people.... 'ASEAN is not my father'.

You don't need to buy those states, you just need to manipulate them with threats that no election will affect THEM.

Which it won't.

But I wonder who my Mother is?

[Somtamnication]

Love it. 10 countries with virtually zero democracy telling Thailand about their concern. What next? Telling Thailand about human rights concerns?

[webfact]

ASEAN GROUPING
Asean to offer advice on ongoing political crisis
THE NATION

Thai FM says regional grouping believes election the only way out

BANGKOK: -- ASEAN COUNTRIES will soon be issuing a statement to express their concern over the ongoing political crisis as well as their wish for Thailand to hold an election, caretaker Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul said yesterday.

He explained that most governments in the region believed that a new round of election would lead to reconciliation.

Surapong said he endorsed a draft of the statement prepared by his Indonesian counterpart Marty Natalegawa.

The statement was prepared on behalf of Myanmar, which is chairing the grouping this year, and has been sent to other Asean countries for endorsement.

The statement will reflect Asean's concern about Thailand's political situation and their wish to see the problems solved through dialogue and in a democratic way, he said, pointing out that they all wanted to see an election as they believe it would offer a way out of the ongoing turmoil.

It is rare for Thailand to allow Asean countries to intervene or comment on domestic affairs.

Surapong said that with the Asean Economic Community due to kick off next year, the grouping's image could get affected if Thailand's problems were not solved in time. Thailand, which previously played a key role in the group, has had to take a back seat due to the internal conflicts.

Hence, Surapong, who is also chief adviser to the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), said he wanted anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban and Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva - who are part of the same group - to sit down and talk about when an election should be held. He said they should also stop blaming other political parties for creating problems.

The Election Commission (EC) held a meeting with political parties on Tuesday. The commission had put three dates on the table: July 20, August 17 and September 14.

EC secretary general Puchong Nutrawong said yesterday that the commission agreed with political parties to hold the elections on July 20, but would first schedule a meeting with the government next Wednesday to discuss the issue. The caretaker PM's secretary-general, Suranand Vejjajiva, accepted the invitation.

Meanwhile, Pheu Thai Party backed CAPO's call for an election, with the party spokesman saying yesterday that the party believes the poll should be held in the next 45 to 60 days.

The Democrat Party, which did not send a representative to the EC meeting citing security concerns, said it only wanted elections to take place in peaceful circumstances.

However, the Suthep-led People's Democratic Reform Committee has announced that it would obstruct the election because it wanted national reforms to be put in place first.

Suratin Picharn, leader of the New Democracy Party, met caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra at the Office of the Permanent Secretary of Defence yesterday to present her with flowers and sweetmeats.

He was visiting on behalf of 32 smaller political parties and encouraged her government to propose an election decree either for June 15 or June 22 as the smaller parties wanted people to exercise their voting rights as soon as possible.


-- The Nation 2014-04-24

[Robby nz]

It is rare for Thailand to allow Asean countries to intervene or comment on domestic affairs.

Surely this isn't a matter of "allowing"

Surapong has been sending letters around the world "asking"

He explained that most governments in the region believed that a new round of election would lead to reconciliation.

Correction, he has told them that a new round of election would lead to reconciliation.

And he is wrong

Hence, Surapong, who is also chief adviser to the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (CAPO), said he wanted anti-government protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban and Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva - who are part of the same group - to sit down and talk about when an election should be held. He said they should also stop blaming other political parties for creating problems.

Shouldn't he be telling that to his red supporters who are putting an army together ?

But no, they are pure and blameless as is his own party and its controller.

[metisdead]

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[NanLaew]

He said that he would therefore like to inform rally leader Suthep Thaugsuban and Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, who are part of the same group, that they should talk to each other on when the election will be held. They should stop blaming other political parties for causing the problems.

Very astute observation. Even other countries see that there's a huge and growing disconnect between the Democrats 'management' and 'labour'.

[rickirs]

US President Obama will be visiting the major ASEAN countries to plan security of their regional resources. Nations included in his vists are the democratic countries of South Korea, Malaysia, Philippines, and Japan. You'd think Thailand having a long security and trade partnership with the US would also be on Obama's itinerary - but it's not. The US Vice President Biden is in Ukraine where there is serious political crisis. But no Thailand. That's because of Thailand's current political crisis is toxic to democracy. A statement issued by the ASEAN on Thailand's political crisis will just be a further distancing of those nations from Thailand's deterioration of democracy.

[Scarpolo]

US President Obama will be visiting the major ASEAN countries to plan security of their regional resources. Nations included in his vists are the democratic countries of South Korea, Malaysia, Philippines, and Japan. You'd think Thailand having a long security and trade partnership with the US would also be on Obama's itinerary - but it's not. The US Vice President Biden is in Ukraine where there is serious political crisis. But no Thailand. That's because of Thailand's current political crisis is toxic to democracy. A statement issued by the ASEAN on Thailand's political crisis will just be a further distancing of those nations from Thailand's deterioration of democracy.

What resources exactly does Thailand have that America needs?

[DekDaeng]

"sent by the Myanmar foreign minister,"

Who'd a thunked?

Myanmar calling for democracy in Thailand!