h90 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Under the new laws on censorship, expect to hear more news like this. I have been bumped out of business class on Thai more than once and if you do not get them to issue you the right form it takes ages to get the refund. It used to be that Thai management got free business class travel when they reached a certain level, MPs and Senators also got free First/Business class travel on Thai. Under the new censorship rules I wonder if we can expect pics of a General travelling Economy soon? Not only the managment and MPs, also their relatives and a limited amount of friends....and for others free upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publicus Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 When is he going to apologize for past army massacres and give back some of the money from the army's insane budget? Do you actually read and consider what you write before you post it? Mankind would never have moved out of their stone-age caves nor the mire of the Dark Ages if civilisation depended on your "model" of advancement. Alas, your "model" appears to depend on never having your snout pulled from the trough, no matter the consequences. Shameful trolling at its worst I see that one hit where it hurts and it so hit hard it turned you blue. That's because fascists might be able to make the trains run on time but they never have made democracy better. Never, ever, not anywhere, not at any time, not under any circumstances. Same same always. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) the Junta seems to take a lot of decisions designed to earn poor people's approval and trust Edited June 10, 2014 by manarak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 That's just perfect! Way togo, and keep shutting down the abussives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 tip of the proverbial iceberg. It's like taking control of a large banquet, and mandating smaller candles to save money. Yes, it's appreciated, but I'll be impressed when there are some deep serious across-the-board cuts in all over-spending. Hint: it's more than government, gov't corporations and military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors................. They're not the army, are they. I'll give you a clue, RTAF. Who's in charge of the Thai Economy? I'll give you a clue, RTAF Air Chief Marshal Prajin Jantong, who is also Deputy Leader of the NCPO. Very well done Air Chief Marshal Prajin Jantong, ( Deputy Leader of the NCPO.) - no favours or exemptions shown here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 On every Thai flight I have ever been on (Europe / Australia to or from Thailand) there have always been vacant seats. Unless the staff are taking up seats that would otherwise be filled by paying passengers I don't know that it will save money. The extra administrative costs and the fuel to transport a 70kg person and their 20kg of luggage is negligible so how will it save money? Because they still have to spend budget on the seats,, this takes up money that they could be saving in the budget OR spending somewhere else where it does more good for the airline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 When is he going to apologize for past army massacres and give back some of the money from the army's insane budget? Do you actually read and consider what you write before you post it? Mankind would never have moved out of their stone-age caves nor the mire of the Dark Ages if civilisation depended on your "model" of advancement. Alas, your "model" appears to depend on never having your snout pulled from the trough, no matter the consequences. Shameful trolling at its worst I see that one hit where it hurts and it so hit hard it turned you blue. That's because fascists might be able to make the trains run on time but they never have made democracy better. Never, ever, not anywhere, not at any time, not under any circumstances. Same same always. What have 'fascists' got to do with this story? Who are you labeling as fascists - the NCPO ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonsalviz Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Cool, maybe my wife can get upgrades in Thai with her points now. The seats have never been available BKK-LAX. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors................. Your point is...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gchurch259 Posted June 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2014 I am glad to see this change, particularly since they sit in First Class, when available, if not Business, same for Politicians on the flights I have seen them on. Due respect to djjamie, these people do not generally come in at 70kg and I am sure they have more than 20kg baggage. Even as a Gold Member flying in Business I am allowed 40kg. One of the things that burned me about Thai was on several occasions on arrival at BKK they would not allow even B/C bags to be delivered until the politians and other hot shots bags were delivered and many of them had many bags. You remember a few years back one of the excutives (VP) at Thai was fired for flying free and bringing many boxes of googies from Japan without paying for the extra luggage. I like and enjoy flying Thai. I have flown on almost all the major carriers and was in Maintenance Management for 5 different US Carriers over 35 years with the airlines. Final thought, Corruption is a very serious Cancer and it manifest it's self in many ways and at many levels of a culture unless kept in check. God Speed General !! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 On every Thai flight I have ever been on (Europe / Australia to or from Thailand) there have always been vacant seats. Unless the staff are taking up seats that would otherwise be filled by paying passengers I don't know that it will save money. The extra administrative costs and the fuel to transport a 70kg person and their 20kg of luggage is negligible so how will it save money? The staff will be doing their job in stead of flying all over the world just because it is free. Probably be able to let some of them go when every one goes to work instead of flying all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennypowers Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Hilarious watching you all get suckered in...mark my words. Let's revisit these threads in a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian67 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors................. Thanks for highlighting that the Junta are not biased. Well done and Fab4's example here typifies the anti nepotistic and anti cronyism approach by the Junta. It does not matter who you are or who you support the Junta are doing this for the country as a whole. This is exactly what has been lacking for the past few years and thanks Fab4 for inadvertently highlighting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian67 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travel Dude Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors................. Thanks for highlighting that the Junta are not biased. Well done and Fab4's example here typifies the anti nepotistic and anti cronyism approach by the Junta. It does not matter who you are or who you support the Junta are doing this for the country as a whole. This is exactly what has been lacking for the past few years and thanks Fab4 for inadvertently highlighting it. For the past 100 years I guess.... Good that General Prayuth is doing and initiating so many good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please Gen Prayuth, for the love of Mary, do not relinquish control back to the Shinawatras. All your good work will be undone in days. The good news just keeps on rolling in, something we have not seen since the dark day that Thaksin ascended to power. Hooray for Gen Prayuth!! Do you really think it was the Shinawatra's that set this practice in motion? Is everything that goes on in Thailand that is questionable a result of the Shinawatras. Get real! The country is corrupt. These generals that have taken over have no perks at all, I suppose. Somehow they all have business interests and get quite wealthy off that and their connections. I can guarantee 100% that all the things such as taking free flights away from Thai Board of Directors is mostly show and that they still have all their perks. Sure all this needs to be cleaned up but don't be fooled by some of their actions, it is partly show, as you can bet they will retain their assets and you will never see an auditing of their assets and how they acquired their money. It is not just the Shinawatras that are the problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinique Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Shame on some for spreading rumors. Thai Airways are broke but as they're a national carrier you'll be fine, and just as well. No rumour mongering at all. Read the news if you are in any doubt as to the dire financial crisis that Thai Airways is in. Your tickets will almost certainly be honoured. General P is actually addressing the dire consequences that this is having on the coffers. No one else addressed it. Good on him and the Junta. Errrr!!! do you understand that there is a difference between 'broke' and 'financial difficulties'... ? Thai makes profits in some years and losses in others.. like any other business..particularly one in thier line of business.. this does not mean they are broke as you repeatedly are saying.. The Juntas move with the Thai board is to flag to others, send the message, that freebies for freebies sake are no longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinique Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors................. Thanks for highlighting that the Junta are not biased. Well done and Fab4's example here typifies the anti nepotistic and anti cronyism approach by the Junta. It does not matter who you are or who you support the Junta are doing this for the country as a whole. This is exactly what has been lacking for the past few years and thanks Fab4 for inadvertently highlighting it. For the past 100 years I guess.... Good that General Prayuth is doing and initiating so many good things. He is clearly sending messages to those he feels need to hear them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinique Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please Gen Prayuth, for the love of Mary, do not relinquish control back to the Shinawatras. All your good work will be undone in days. The good news just keeps on rolling in, something we have not seen since the dark day that Thaksin ascended to power. Hooray for Gen Prayuth!! Do you really think it was the Shinawatra's that set this practice in motion? Is everything that goes on in Thailand that is questionable a result of the Shinawatras. Get real! The country is corrupt. These generals that have taken over have no perks at all, I suppose. Somehow they all have business interests and get quite wealthy off that and their connections. I can guarantee 100% that all the things such as taking free flights away from Thai Board of Directors is mostly show and that they still have all their perks. Sure all this needs to be cleaned up but don't be fooled by some of their actions, it is partly show, as you can bet they will retain their assets and you will never see an auditing of their assets and how they acquired their money. It is not just the Shinawatras that are the problem. Maybe we can look at it in the sense of sports with referees.. Do the referees get paid and have perks,, of course they do! Also, agreed that the Shins cant and shouldnt be blamed for everything. The system is well entrenched and it will take time and affirmative action to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marstons Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) Quite ironic Junta says they have done it to save money for Thai Airways yet the Juntas actions have all but put Thai airways out of business. Girlfriends father is a Nai Porn in the army, he still has a free house, free car, free chauffeur, free person to take care his house, free hospital care, all the kids got free education upto and through university. Pot calling the kettle black or what. Edited June 10, 2014 by marstons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusyB Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 My last experince on Thai was like being on a Thai tour bus and being served a box lunch. Now one of the worst for International travel. Paid very high prices and got discount airline quality. Thai needs a complete remake of how they present their brand. Thai used to be a quality carrier. Thanks for the memory Thai. Too bad it is only a memory and nothing like what they now offer. I wonder if 7-11 is now preparing the meals for Thai? If you compare Thai to 5 star airlines like Singapore or Cathay then of course it's nowhere near in terms of service. However, as airlines go, it's pretty good. I've always found the international service in both business and economy adequate and the food is surprisingly good in economy. Perhaps your 'last' experience was in a decade ago? Whatever the case, you're probably exaggerating. Have to say that I flew Thai business BKK-FRA a year ago on the new A380, and the entire experience, ambiente, service, food, was HIGHLY enjoyable. It's the only time I ever flew Thai. I'm now looking for an economy return for later this year. Whilst browsing the Lufthansa Group LH/OS/LX found that on the code shares flown by TG there are NO budget tariffs. LH for instance offers (restricted of course) tariffs beginning at €875, through €1063 thru to dunno, somthing like over €2K. TG only offers tix from €2300. Absolutely NO other fares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahang Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors.................They're not the army, are they. I'll give you a clue, RTAF. Who's in charge of the Thai Economy? I'll give you a clue, RTAF Air Chief Marshal Prajin Jantong, who is also Deputy Leader of the NCPO. Very well done Air Chief Marshal Prajin Jantong, ( Deputy Leader of the NCPO.) - no favours or exemptions shown here. Very stark contrast to the government they replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dddave Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 On every Thai flight I have ever been on (Europe / Australia to or from Thailand) there have always been vacant seats. Unless the staff are taking up seats that would otherwise be filled by paying passengers I don't know that it will save money. The extra administrative costs and the fuel to transport a 70kg person and their 20kg of luggage is negligible so how will it save money? You don't for one second believe free flying official's feet ever touch the well worn carpeting of Economy Class, or even Business Class do you? First Class all the way for those Bozos. The whole plane could be empty for all they care and they'll still be demanding an extra king crab leg for Poochie. I have over 200,000 miles on Thai over the last three years and it has noticeably gone down hill the last year or so. Meals much less tasty and smaller. Less FA's in coach so not nearly the level of service as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Yet another outstanding call. $hit I can honestly say I am really enjoying this. Criminals, corrupt officials, politicians and top ender kick backs ALL getting what comes to them. Long, long overdue. Well done NCPO. Brown Noser Award? Too late....we've already got one. It's called The Tarit Trophy. Ohh! Yes our lovley friend "the mother of all brown noses" He must be hiding somwere. Quiet as the little mouse he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 On every Thai flight I have ever been on (Europe / Australia to or from Thailand) there have always been vacant seats. Unless the staff are taking up seats that would otherwise be filled by paying passengers I don't know that it will save money. The extra administrative costs and the fuel to transport a 70kg person and their 20kg of luggage is negligible so how will it save money? They wont sit in coatch, First class or business class only. Do you think they will have only 20 kg luggage? No way, not after wifies been shopping arround in Hong Kong, Paris, London or New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please Gen Prayuth, for the love of Mary, do not relinquish control back to the Shinawatras. All your good work will be undone in days. The good news just keeps on rolling in, something we have not seen since the dark day that Thaksin ascended to power. Hooray for Gen Prayuth!! Agree, a quote from a Professor of International Politics for when elections are held in the future. "To choose the Thaksin regime is to guarantee the death of democracy for Thailand's foreseeable future" http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0529-thompson-thai-coup-20140529-story.html Thank you for the link S1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 There are three Air Chief Marshals on the Board of Directors................. They're not the army, are they. I'll give you a clue, RTAF. Who's in charge of the Thai Economy? I'll give you a clue, RTAF Air Chief Marshal Prajin Jantong, who is also Deputy Leader of the NCPO. Who's in charge of the Thai Economy? I'll give you a clue, RTAF They are doing a hell of a job comparing to Yingluck and PTP. So whats your problem? The rice farmers getting paid? The killing has stopped? The demonstrations are over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please Gen Prayuth, for the love of Mary, do not relinquish control back to the Shinawatras. All your good work will be undone in days. The good news just keeps on rolling in, something we have not seen since the dark day that Thaksin ascended to power. Hooray for Gen Prayuth!! we can now see why the politicians and wealthy have gone all out to make us believe that the army taking over is bad for Thais Once an honest power takes over pandoras box will open and the corrupt will all be seen must stop at all costs so we can still make out mega bucks the proof is in the pudding, not the talk Thailand is leading the world in Finding, stopping and punishing corruption 10 out of 10 for the coup, only those who need worry, are those that have something to hide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Please Gen Prayuth, for the love of Mary, do not relinquish control back to the Shinawatras. All your good work will be undone in days. The good news just keeps on rolling in, something we have not seen since the dark day that Thaksin ascended to power. Hooray for Gen Prayuth!! Agree, a quote from a Professor of International Politics for when elections are held in the future. "To choose the Thaksin regime is to guarantee the death of democracy for Thailand's foreseeable future" http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-0529-thompson-thai-coup-20140529-story.html And that quote went on to say............. To support the army, may, just may, be the only way to restore it. It has been a general historical truth that regimes bringing order at least make a democratic transition possible. The converse is seldom true. Permissive regimes tend to lead to crackdowns that doom enlightened rule. So if you agree with the Professor of International Politics you must agree that the PTP were a permissive regime. Yet we are constantly told on here that the PTP were a dictatorship - what's it to be? I know there are other definitions, but in the context of the article my interpretation of "Permissive Regime" is one that failed to rein in their politicians and government agencies in ongoing abuse of power and corruption. Agree that in the classic sense PTP were not a dictatorship as as it appears they had minimal control over the State forces of oppression, perhaps a better description would be 'kleptocracy'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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