whitethai Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 What are the price of good 2 bed condos to buy currently new builds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2004 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 It can vary enormously depending obviously on size and location. Look to pay between 30,000 - 100,000 baht per sq metre. A nice 2 bed say 80 sqm would be around 4 million baht. Don't go for the 25 sq m new builds unless you are a midget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oink Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I actually saw one advertised at 12mSq in one of the developments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 What are the price of good 2 bed condos to buy currently new builds? Define "good condo"... ?? For recent condos or projects in constructions prices easily go over 100'000 B/sqm. And don't forget that the higher is your apart, the more expensive he get... WaterFront apartments today may range in 120 - 200'000 B/m2 I actually saw one advertised at 12mSq in one of the developments. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subpar Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I actually saw one advertised at 12mSq in one of the developments. My master bedroom en-suite is bigger than that. Much bigger than that. Couldn't imagine living in it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
properperson Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I actually saw one advertised at 12mSq in one of the developments. My master bedroom en-suite is bigger than that. Much bigger than that. Couldn't imagine living in it though bloke down our ways en suite is much larger than yours.......claims to have the largest on the estate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 For recent condos or projects in constructions prices easily go over 100'000 B/sqm. And don't forget that the higher is your apart, the more expensive he get... WaterFront apartments today may range in 120 - 200'000 B/m2 Asking prices can look big on paper. Thankfully they don't bear much relation to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 For recent condos or projects in constructions prices easily go over 100'000 B/sqm. And don't forget that the higher is your apart, the more expensive he get... WaterFront apartments today may range in 120 - 200'000 B/m2 Asking prices can look big on paper. Thankfully they don't bear much relation to reality. Hey KittenKong. It's the second time you make me a remark on WaterFront prices. So if you have a secret and know how to buy in WaterFront for less than 100'000 B/sqm please let us know; I am sure many would be interested... The prices I wrote are those from their sell office next to the building site and I don't see how you could significantly get them down... If prices is their own sell office is not "reality", where are the "real prices" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitethai Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) What are the price of good 2 bed condos to buy currently new builds? Define "good condo"... ?? For recent condos or projects in constructions prices easily go over 100'000 B/sqm. And don't forget that the higher is your apart, the more expensive he get... WaterFront apartments today may range in 120 - 200'000 B/m2 I actually saw one advertised at 12mSq in one of the developments. ?? Dont know really includes good air con and furniture pack and no killers livin next door )) You must know toe goo ones being built right now around Jomtien and Soi Buakhao Edited July 6, 2014 by whitethai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hey KittenKong. It's the second time you make me a remark on WaterFront prices. So if you have a secret and know how to buy in WaterFront for less than 100'000 B/sqm please let us know; I am sure many would be interested... The prices I wrote are those from their sell office next to the building site and I don't see how you could significantly get them down... If prices is their own sell office is not "reality", where are the "real prices" ? Not on a price list in the sales office, that's for sure. It's like airline seats: just because the price for today's flight is USD1000 doesnt mean that a guy in another identical seat didn't pay half that, or less. So which is the "real" price? Let's see what the units actually sell for as re-sales. For an idea, take a look at some of the advertised re-sale units in buildings that have recently finished construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Not on a price list in the sales office, that's for sure. So where ? I was not talking here about buying from re-sale (more expensive) or buying of plan (a few years late) but about someone who would like to buy one of the still unsold apartments (http://www.waterfrontpattaya.com/floorplans.php) I doubt I get an answer from you though. Looks like you prefer play with enigma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartender100 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 http://pattataoffplancondos.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Not on a price list in the sales office, that's for sure. So where ? I was not talking here about buying from re-sale (more expensive) or buying of plan (a few years late) but about someone who would like to buy one of the still unsold apartments .... I doubt I get an answer from you though. Looks like you prefer play with enigma. I gave you an answer. It's up to you whether you care to read it or not. As for re-sales, as I mentioned there are loads of re-sales in various buildings being advertised at below the list prices of remaining units. So it doesn't take a mind-reader to work out that the list prices in question are a fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatsupreme Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 12 sq meters? are you nuts, that is not <deleted> new york, where people live in such small rooms and piss throug windos, this is Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I actually saw one advertised at 12mSq in one of the developments.12 sq meters? are you nuts, that is not <deleted> new york, where people live in such small rooms and piss throug windos, this is Thailand I am unsure what Oink really wanted to write, but for sure it can't be "12 sqm". There is many legal requirements for a building to be a condominium, and one of them is a minimum unit size of 20+ sqm. (don't remember exactly... 23 sqm mini?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluemoonexpat Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 31,000 baht/sq metre in Bang Saray. 500 metres from the beach. The same would cost twice that amount in Pattaya (which is only 15 minutes by car). Pattaya is full and had its day. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 but for sure it can't be "12 sqm". There is many legal requirements for a building to be a condominium, and one of them is a minimum unit size of 20+ sqm. (don't remember exactly... 23 sqm mini?) I've never heard of any smaller than 23sqm. Even at that size they are really only hotel rooms and often dont even have a kitchen area. Designers do quite a good job of squeezing a lot into the new 1-bed 30-40sqm designs but personally I like the older open-plan style and would not be happy in less than about 60sqm, even on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) I've never heard of any smaller than 23sqm. I think Unixx on the hill has some 22 sqm units and Serenity on Naklua advertised for 21 sqm units... Even if for week-ends only, better to go in an hotel than in this kind of "box" Edit: On more (that I don't know) with some pictures. Art on the Hill, 22 sqm, not even enough place for a sofa or a table... http://pattayacondoguide.com/details-for/art-on-the-hill-for-sale-in-Pratumnak-Pattaya,65300.html Edited July 7, 2014 by Pattaya46 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thairookie Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Not on a price list in the sales office, that's for sure. So where ? I was not talking here about buying from re-sale (more expensive) or buying of plan (a few years late) but about someone who would like to buy one of the still unsold apartments (http://www.waterfrontpattaya.com/floorplans.php) I doubt I get an answer from you though. Looks like you prefer play with enigma... I think KittenKong has given enough "hints", so to speak. For a start, it's not entirely correct to presume that resale units are always more expensive compared to buying direct from developers. There are many investors who buy off-plan and prices are often at a huge discount compared to prices when the units are ready for move in. This, you know, I know. What you might not know is this: once the investors have bought units off-plan, and while construction is in progress, the developer's pricing will move up faster than prices that investors are willing to let go. In fact, the investors will look to the developer's pricing to fix their own re-sale prices. You can even say that there is a tacit understanding between developers and investors in place so as to enable investors gain a windfall. Often, these investors own property firms, and they don't just buy 1 or 2 units. Imagine as property firms the amount of discount that they get from developers when they buy off-plan and in bulk. For the developers, they get to collect cash upfront to kick start their projects with just a few architectural plans and marketing brochures. Not a bad business, I would say. Eventually when the investors let go of their units before legal completion of the project, that is to say, before strata titles are issued, the developers get to make some money when the investors transfer their names on the Sale Agreement (with the developer) to the ultimate buyers. This, often, is a condition embodied in the original Sale Agreement that the investor signed with the developer. For the investors, they're eager to let go of their units before legal completion of the project because as long as the project is still under construction the investors need not have to pay any government taxes. This ensures that whatever price difference (profits) between what they paid to the developer and what they now sell to the ultimate buyer will not be "eaten up" by the slew of official taxes. The moral of the story is resale prices are not always more expensive than units purchased directly from the developers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I've never heard of any smaller than 23sqm. I think Unixx on the hill has some 22 sqm units and Serenity on Naklua advertised for 21 sqm units... Even if for week-ends only, better to go in an hotel than in this kind of "box" Edit: On more (that I don't know) with some pictures. Art on the Hill, 22 sqm, not even enough place for a sofa or a table... http://pattayacondoguide.com/details-for/art-on-the-hill-for-sale-in-Pratumnak-Pattaya,65300.html Our bedroom and en suite is bigger than this ,how in Gods name could anyone live full time in a place this size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatsupreme Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think i stayed in 22 sq meter room in Bangkok for like 7 months, because I was <deleted> cheap!! But never again, I think I have mental sideeffects because of that nasty room. But it was only 7000 bht.... With fitness and electric it came around 10000, but it aint worth it I will not be cheap again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittenKong Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I've never heard of any smaller than 23sqm. I think Unixx on the hill has some 22 sqm units and Serenity on Naklua advertised for 21 sqm units... I'm glad I've not seen those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2004 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 31,000 baht/sq metre in Bang Saray. 500 metres from the beach. The same would cost twice that amount in Pattaya (which is only 15 minutes by car). Pattaya is full and had its day. Time to move on. I only paid 34,000 a sqm for a nice condo near the beach in Pattaya and would be happy to sell for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatsupreme Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 31,000 baht/sq metre in Bang Saray. 500 metres from the beach. The same would cost twice that amount in Pattaya (which is only 15 minutes by car). Pattaya is full and had its day. Time to move on. I only paid 34,000 a sqm for a nice condo near the beach in Pattaya and would be happy to sell for that now. what is the total size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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