Just another bit of paper along with the customs stamp that has to be applied . more hassle, more barriers to imports, more cost, more more more.

To achieve? Nothing

 

Ehmm, this proposal is not meant as a way to annoy either you or customs.

 

""The Public Health Ministry has proposed mandating the use of graphic warnings on all alcoholic beverage bottles.

The plonk I drink already has a pretty scary label on the bottle. It displays a golden, rather full-breasted half-woman wai-ing as she emerges from a blue-margined label. Enough to give the heebie-jeebies to all but the most hardened drinker, no wonder it is only 32B/bottle in 7/11. AA

 

Just another bit of paper along with the customs stamp that has to be applied . more hassle, more barriers to imports, more cost, more more more.

To achieve? Nothing

 

Ehmm, this proposal is not meant as a way to annoy either you or customs.

 

""The Public Health Ministry has proposed mandating the use of graphic warnings on all alcoholic beverage bottles.

 

 

tell that to people importing beers and wines, that have to put the customs stamp on the bottles.  That is a massive earner if ever there was one.  

 

Now, the importers are going to have to get bespoke packaging just for the thai market for wines or beers.  You think its worth it for a company to manufacture a special can just for consumption in Thailand?  This labelling is a massive added cost for importers.

Will be a real challenge to select graphic images pertaining to alcohol abuse. Off the cuff I could think of the depiction of a cirrhotic liver perhaps. But generally alcohol abuse does not manifest in obvious physical signs that would translate well as still photos.

 

But maybe the ministry would like to send a team of photographers over to my neighborhood mom and pop store. There might be plenty of suitable photo motives from the bunch of drunkards that congregates there each and every morning.

 

Or how about a picture of a nightclub or karaoke joint brawl?

A pic of dead-drunk youths accosting an innocent-looking Thai maiden?

An image of a corpse behind the wheel after crashing the car?

A husband beating his wife to a pulp during an alcohol-induced rage episode?

A State Railway employee murdering a schoolgirl?

A bunch of low-lives stabbing a tourist to death because they needed money for their bar tab?

An obviously highly inebriated politician rambling gibberish in parliament (should be easy to source suitable stock photos of a certain person suffering from a chronic ear infection)? 

Edited August 11, 201411 yr by Misterwhisper

 

 

Just another bit of paper along with the customs stamp that has to be applied . more hassle, more barriers to imports, more cost, more more more.

To achieve? Nothing

 

Ehmm, this proposal is not meant as a way to annoy either you or customs.

 

""The Public Health Ministry has proposed mandating the use of graphic warnings on all alcoholic beverage bottles.

 

 

tell that to people importing beers and wines, that have to put the customs stamp on the bottles.  That is a massive earner if ever there was one.  

 

Now, the importers are going to have to get bespoke packaging just for the thai market for wines or beers.  You think its worth it for a company to manufacture a special can just for consumption in Thailand?  This labelling is a massive added cost for importers.

 

 

So is the mandatory Thai on labels. Mind you I would assume such additional labeling is normally done in the distributor's warehouse.

 

Secondly this new proposal is not meant to annoy importers, it's supposed to protect the general public.

 

Thirdly any alcohol includes the stuff made by local companies locally.

 

Fourthly you might want to make proposals how to tackle the illegal alcohol production in Thailand. That moonshine is not taxed, not labelled properly and for sure deadly in number of road deaths, familiar quarrels,  murders, rapes.

Actually, I think a picture of a liver on a bottle of red could set me up with a bit of a hunger. Just need some shallots, seasoning and.....a bit of red.

A good excuse to get nice crystal ware to store the booze, then. 

Wonder where this idea came from 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28735740

What's next? All new cars sold have to have images of road victims painted on them?  The scary thing here now is that all these dumb head’s crazy ideas can easily become the law of the land, what happened to "land of the Free" (as Thailand originally means)?

 

 

They're all running round like headless chickens, desperate trying to prove their worth, reciting:

must do something to impress the new boss - must do something to impress the new boss - must do something to impress the new boss ....

 

Can't be seen to be sitting on their hands in these days of culls.

Thailand slowly turning into a Nanny state,like in the West,

something i tried to get away from. i have a brain, don't need Govt telling what to do.

regards Worgeordie

 

It'll probably only ever be a "pretend nanny state"....a few pictures on smokes and bottles won't make the slightest difference...

Pattaya, Phuket, Nana, Cowboy.....and all the other great (sinful?) places of Thailand will continue to grow.......the "nanny state" ideal will never get a hold here.......

I wonder with ASEAN coming these are also going to be in Ting-lish, I reckon there will be some classics.

 

eg

" Drinking Causes Pregnancy "

 

Image Source

 

 

 

Just another bit of paper along with the customs stamp that has to be applied . more hassle, more barriers to imports, more cost, more more more.

To achieve? Nothing

 

Ehmm, this proposal is not meant as a way to annoy either you or customs.

 

""The Public Health Ministry has proposed mandating the use of graphic warnings on all alcoholic beverage bottles.

 

 

tell that to people importing beers and wines, that have to put the customs stamp on the bottles.  That is a massive earner if ever there was one.  

 

Now, the importers are going to have to get bespoke packaging just for the thai market for wines or beers.  You think its worth it for a company to manufacture a special can just for consumption in Thailand?  This labelling is a massive added cost for importers.

 

 

So is the mandatory Thai on labels. Mind you I would assume such additional labeling is normally done in the distributor's warehouse.

 

Secondly this new proposal is not meant to annoy importers, it's supposed to protect the general public.

 

Thirdly any alcohol includes the stuff made by local companies locally.

 

Fourthly you might want to make proposals how to tackle the illegal alcohol production in Thailand. That moonshine is not taxed, not labelled properly and for sure deadly in number of road deaths, familiar quarrels,  murders, rapes.

 

 

 

Indeed, lao khao isn't taxed.  There are laws in place already about that.  

 

I did a bit of research for a company to import wine, and the cost of putting customs stamps on in the port is very very high and time consuming.  It is normally done in the port, but there is a dispensation ironically for Diageo who put theirs on in the factory because it is of such a huge amount with Johnnie Walker.  So now, an importer is going to have to open the box once at the port, and either arrange for the producer to put a label on up front, or pay to repackage it.  It all adds cost.  

 

For the local guys, of course they have a volume and market, but just imagine if you import a few thousand cases a year of small volumes of wine or beer.  This is going to be a reall ball ache to handle.  You think Chateau Mouton Rothschild is going to put a special lable on just for the Thai market, any more than a can of John Smiths?  

 

For canned products this is going to be an absolute nightmare.

Bet there are more deaths to young people and WOMEN who ride without a helmet

They would be better off putting warning labels on all the smokey bon fires I have to endure every day.
Far more dangerous than a few fags and a bottle of beer

Amazing Thailand? Another great idea no one has ever thought of before. Genius! He should have a label covering 25% of his face declaring...

They would be better off putting warning labels on all the smokey bon fires I have to endure every day.
Far more dangerous than a few fags and a bottle of beer

 

Walking along the road when a lady just puts some 'nam pla' in the wok tends to leave me breathless for a while, more so than the Bangkok traffic I endure

Just enforce the Drink driving laws      

 

I agree - and it's not rocket science.

 

Perhaps it is called "pass the buck"? If drink driving does not decrease then blame the brewer!

"We" have been seen to do something! May not be effective but "we" have dealt with the problem.

 

 

"The power of accurate observation, is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it."

Edited August 11, 201411 yr by lvr181

Just reading a bit on my holiday I found this on warning labels.Strangely enough the Netherlands is not listed, although Thailand is   

 

http://www.icap.org/table/HealthWarningLabels

 

Yahoo gave me a fewnice examples. Some I can even read without a magnifier 

https://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A0SO81BosOhTNyMA1khXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0NDVsNWduBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1NNRTY0MF8x?p=alcohol+warning+labels&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3Dalcohol%2Bwarning%2Blabels%26fr%3Dsfp&w=479&h=579&imgurl=www.funnyphotos.net.au%2Fimages%2Falcohol-warning-label-excessive-quantities-may-cau1.jpg&size=49KB&name=alcohol-warning-label-excessive-quantities-may-cau1.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnyphotos.net.au%2Fwarning-labels%2F&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.funnyphotos.net.au%2Fwarning-labels%2F&type=&no=6&tt=115&oid=7c6ff5e3b878d75fea16aa044116de9c&tit=Alcohol+warning+label.+Excessive+quantities+may+cause.+Delusions+of+...&sigr=11dq5sftv&sigi=12lmgvp53&sign=11nfhk8rv&sigt=103ooeh2o&sigb=128a0sr2k&fr=sfp

 

 

Actually, I think a picture of a liver on a bottle of red could set me up with a bit of a hunger. Just need some shallots, seasoning and.....a bit of red.

 

http://wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com/2013/12/alcohol-liver.jpg?w=620

 

My excuses for possibly spoiling your appetite 

 

Thailand slowly turning into a Nanny state,like in the West,

something i tried to get away from. i have a brain, don't need Govt telling what to do.

regards Worgeordie

 

It'll probably only ever be a "pretend nanny state"....a few pictures on smokes and bottles won't make the slightest difference...

Pattaya, Phuket, Nana, Cowboy.....and all the other great (sinful?) places of Thailand will continue to grow.......the "nanny state" ideal will never get a hold here.......

 

 

I hope you are right.....they said similar in Iran in the middle of the Islamic revolution.

Off topic posts have been removed, this is not about recreational drugs, etc. 

Oh good grief.  'Warning Labels'  will not effect alcohol consumption one iota.

 

If they really want to solve some of the alcohol consumption problems, they might consider enforcing existing laws.  Do something about all the fly-by-night bars that pop up at night, such as at the Asoke intersection.  They should also start to tax alcohol based on alcohol content by volumn.

 

As usual, a knee jerk band aid solution to try and convince people they are actually doing something.  

 

What next?  Warning labels on the glass we drink from?

the label will do nothing when they are drunk,just drink more and be a hero on a bike or car after

Sorry officer I was reading the label on this bottle and I never saw the motorcyclist.

Sorry officer I was reading the label on this bottle and I never saw the motorcyclist.

Mind you they are considering doing this in the UK too.

Once again this topic is not about pharmaceutical drugs, this is about warning labels on alcohol beverage bottles.

So you guys do not like the idea of mister Narong.

 

Do you know who mister Narong is? Full name in OP, google it.

Do you know why he is in the same job as under the previous government?

Do you know what he wants to do with the 30 baht healtcare for the poor?

 

Think again, surely you will change your minds and love this guy!

Once again this topic is not about pharmaceutical drugs, this is about warning labels on alcohol beverage bottles.

 

I suggested that similar information as that provided with pharmaceutical drugs (such as possible adverse effects or actions to take in case of emergency) could be placed on the warning labels on alcoholic beverages. Is it such a bad idea?
 

 

Once again this topic is not about pharmaceutical drugs, this is about warning labels on alcohol beverage bottles.

 

I suggested that similar information as that provided with pharmaceutical drugs (such as possible adverse effects or actions to take in case of emergency) could be placed on the warning labels on alcoholic beverages. Is it such a bad idea?
 

 

 

 

 

The warnings must inform consumers of the dangers of alcohol consumption. If you want to lobby the Public Health Ministry for these additional warnings on the warning labels, then do so.  As for this topic, that is off topic. 

They started putting warning text on cigarette packets, but it made no discernible difference to smoking rates. So they made the warnings bigger. That didn't work, either. So then they decided that what was really needed was warnings and graphic images. Predictably, that made no difference either.

 

The puritans in 'Public Health' are nothing if not unimaginative; "If something doesn't seem to be working at all, well, let's do more of the same", they say.

 

So in Australia, they've gone for the Full Monty - plain, drab packs, grotesque photoshopped medico-porn and big warnings taking up most of the pack. Since they brought in plain packs smoking rates, which have been on a steady decline for years, have risen. Also take-up rates are on the rise for the first time. The treasury is losing billions to the black market, which has more than doubled in the past couple of years. Good result, what?

 

So you would think, given that warning labels and medico-porn have been a signal failure on cigarette packs that they would have abandoned this uglification of the things around us years ago.

 

But no! Now they want to do the same thing with alcohol! And not just in Thailand - 'Public Health' are lobbying for the same thing in UK.

 

Like they say "Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results".

 

I'm not sure whether working for 'Public Health' warps people's minds, or whether it's only people who are inclined towards lifestyle fascism who are attracted to jobs within 'Public Health', but there's certainly a strong correlation in there somewhere.