webfact Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Phuket park successfully reclaims ‘billions of baht’ of landDarawan NaknakhonPark chief Kitipat: Any structures will be demolished.PHUKET: -- Sirinart Marine National Park is ready to take back a total of 445 rai of encroached land – potentially worth billions of baht – after the Land Department halted upgrades from SorKor 1 to Chanote on the land involved.Yesterday (September 2) park chief Kitiphat Tharaphiban explained that the land sits inside the boundaries of the park, and of the Khao Ruak Khao Muang Park, the precursor of Sirinart.He explained that five parcels of land were at issue, claimed by four individuals. The would-be owners had gone to the Land Department to get the papers upgraded to full ownership.But the applications had been opposed by park officials who argued that all the land was inside the park, and that apart from a five-rai parcel with rubber trees on it, none of the land had every been farmed.He said that if the chanotes had been approved, the land would have a sale value in the billions of baht because it bordered on the beach, effectively giving the owners private beach frontage.The Land Department stop the processing of the chanote request for the five rai after discovering that the claim to ownership had been based on a “flying SorKor 1” – a land paper for a different piece of land.Sirinat officers will visit the five pieces of land and if they find any structures these will be demolished.Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-park-successfully-reclaims-%E2%80%98billions-of-baht%E2%80%99-of-land-48547.php-- Phuket News 2014-09-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlehead Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 So, they're going to rip down the Dewa? That's a lot of concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awayego Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 So, they're going to rip down the Dewa? That's a lot of concrete. I certainly hope so but I fear there is just too much money/investment involved. What's the bet Dewa will manage to wriggle out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What about Pullman, Trisara and Novotel? Get back to me when they are Bulldozed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What about Pullman, Trisara and Novotel? Get back to me when they are Bulldozed. Are you sure it's the same case? From my understanding, this issue is not dealing with those particular properties, but those properties are definitely being looked into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bulldozer Dawn Posted September 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) What about Pullman, Trisara and Novotel? Get back to me when they are Bulldozed. Are you sure it's the same case? From my understanding, this issue is not dealing with those particular properties, but those properties are definitely being looked into. The properties I mentioned where identified as encroaching on Nation Park land right at the very start of the clean up. They now stand as a litmus test as to whether the elite will trade on with impunity. Edited September 4, 2014 by Bulldozer Dawn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junk1e Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Currently there definitely appears to be a division between the haves and have nots. All the beach bars and restaurants run by local people at the northern end (Layan beach) of Bang Tao beach have been demolished quite rightly, however the Nikki Beach club which sits right on the beach remains open for business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What about Pullman, Trisara and Novotel? Get back to me when they are Bulldozed. Are you sure it's the same case? From my understanding, this issue is not dealing with those particular properties, but those properties are definitely being looked into. The properties I mentioned where identified as encroaching on Nation Park land right at the very start of the clean up. They now stand as a litmus test as to whether the elite will trade on with impunity. There have been a number of properties identified, but this article is referring to these particular plots, not all of the 3000+ rai that the encroachment encompasses. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will the removal of all encroachment occur in a day. Have some patience BTB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bulldozer Dawn Posted September 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2014 What about Pullman, Trisara and Novotel? Get back to me when they are Bulldozed. Are you sure it's the same case? From my understanding, this issue is not dealing with those particular properties, but those properties are definitely being looked into. The properties I mentioned where identified as encroaching on Nation Park land right at the very start of the clean up. They now stand as a litmus test as to whether the elite will trade on with impunity. There have been a number of properties identified, but this article is referring to these particular plots, not all of the 3000+ rai that the encroachment encompasses. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither will the removal of all encroachment occur in a day. Have some patience BTB. Patience won't accomplish anything here. Did patience result in the Red Bull heir being prosecuted? Did patience result in finally receiving the ocean water quality test results from Patong beach? Did patience result in the prosecution of the two animals that kept the Karon girl in a cage and poured boiling water over her? The more time that transpires, and the closer we come to the pending high season, the more likely that Pullman, Trisara and the other elite owned properties will trade on as usual. I am an optimist. However, I am not a fool. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrerakiss Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) And just who are the four individuals using flying land claims to try and get chanote ownership? Edited September 4, 2014 by Carrerakiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBlair48 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Currently there definitely appears to be a division between the haves and have nots. All the beach bars and restaurants run by local people at the northern end (Layan beach) of Bang Tao beach have been demolished quite rightly, however the Nikki Beach club which sits right on the beach remains open for business. Unfortunately, as I hate the place for its noise pollution, Nikki Beach is on private land, purchased from the restaurant owner immediately to the south. How that person got a hold of beach land would be an interesting inquiry. For now it seems Nikki is sanctioned as OK although it seems to me to be about 2 stories too tall for the zone it is in, within 50 meters of high water mark- 6 meter should be its limit. I had a discussion a short time ago with the head permit officer at Cherng- Telay and asked about it. He did the shuffle-giggle thing and informed me that he agreed with my assessment, but did not sign off on it, 'the " Big Guy" did.' As there seems to be no indication " Big Guy" will be held accountable in any way for the miles of beach encroachment by small businesses on his watch, in his jurisdiction ( and in the Sirinarth Park, too...,) or his possible profiting, it would seem this matter of Nikki Beach possibly violating code will be overlooked. It has entirely ruined the natural setting of the Marine Park for hundred of meters from the loud bass line in the house music. This should have been the one beach kept natural, as it is a park, but instead it is now an open air night club. Edited September 4, 2014 by EBlair48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldozer Dawn Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Currently there definitely appears to be a division between the haves and have nots. All the beach bars and restaurants run by local people at the northern end (Layan beach) of Bang Tao beach have been demolished quite rightly, however the Nikki Beach club which sits right on the beach remains open for business. Unfortunately, as I hate the place for its noise pollution, Nikki Beach is on private land, purchased from the restaurant owner immediately to the south. How that person got a hold of beach land would be an interesting inquiry. For now it seems Nikki is sanctioned as OK although it seems to me to be about 2 stories too tall for the zone it is in, within 50 meters of high water mark- 6 meter should be its limit. I had a discussion a short time ago with the head permit officer at Cherng- Telay and asked about it. He did the shuffle-giggle thing and informed me that he agreed with my assessment, but did not sign off on it, 'the " Big Guy" did.' As there seems to be no indication " Big Guy" will be held accountable in any way for the miles of beach encroachment by small businesses on his watch, in his jurisdiction ( and in the Sirinarth Park, too...,) or his possible profiting, it would seem this matter of Nikki Beach possibly violating code will be overlooked. It has entirely ruined the natural setting of the Marine Park for hundred of meters from the loud bass line in the house music. This should have been the one beach kept natural, as it is a park, but instead it is now an open air night club. It was also one of the last beaches where a sea turtle could nest. That is now a thing of the past as the morons at Niki shine lights down into the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBlair48 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) ^ How did it get permission to house a loud outdoor disco at the entrance toa marine park ? Here's a pic of Nikki Beach does this look like under 6 meters as is the permit level for the zone within 50 meters of high water mark ? The rear of the building that is on a foundation probably a meter in height alone. The grand entrance is half the total height of the front facing the beach Edited September 6, 2014 by EBlair48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 time to enforce this in all of thailand ? how many people did not get filthy rich by stealing this way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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