Kremlin hits back at Thai Immigration's out-in visa ban

[toooa]

Thais do not need visa to go to Russia, that may change, maybe here is the warning.

I agree, maybe but there is nothing in the article about that, as such the headline "Kremlin hits back ..... "is completely misleading.

TV sensationalism....I'm surprised TV doesn't have a page 3 pinup secreted within

somewhere...

[Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere]

Putin gonna invade Thailand too?

No way Jose, China already has.

[tambok17]

good to see a western country standing up for it's citizens

wish mine would

Western Country, do you need a map?

Well, Russians are Slavs. To a Thai, they are farangs. Even if they come from Vladivostok, they are stll Slavic. I saw Thais talk about Russians.

Farang farang farang farang.

Hence, a Western country. To a Thai. White people, farangs.

Australia and NZ are even more east than Russia, by the way.

Farang mot loei

[Arkady]

So how exactly is the Russian government 'hitting back'? What a piece of garbage journalism.

Need some glasses?

“According to Paragraph 1 of a bilateral intergovernmental agreement [between Russia and Thailand], Russian tourists are allowed to enter Thailand for up to 30 days, after which they must leave the country, [but] the number of entries is not limited.”

i.e. they can do in and outs as many times as they wish.

Russians have this right under a bilateral treaty. It is not something that Thailand can change unilaterally. Thais have the same right in Russia and there are quite a few Thais working in Russia, including masseuses, who may or may not have WPs. They don't attract attention, if they don't talk, as Russians can't tell the difference between Thais and people from the former Soviet Far East.

[tambok17]

Watch out Thailand. Putin might annex Thailand next!

Joking apart, Putin NEVER force annexed Crimea, the Crimean people massively voted with some 85+% democratically in favour of annexing to Russia, let us all try to remember that. Facts that can be checked rather than the utter crap reported in the western presstitute media. I am neither pro Russia nor particularly now pro America either, but I do like to see some truth which is not what we are being dangerously and stupidly fed from Washington it seems these days !!!!!!!!!! I suppose if you feed folk enough false rubbish for long enough then many of course start believing it.

Personally it should be quite fair and simple, in that you should not discriminate against any race, creed, culture or religion, you judge each individual person's case on it's merits and honesty. Sure tourist visas were NEVER intended for use to stay, live and/or work in Thailand, get used to that as that is all that is now being enforced.

Only thing I will add is what I always say, is that I feel this good and sensible Government we now have here should maybe consider non-immigrant long stay visas like OA for those under 50 who can meet a reasonable financial requirement similar to what retirees over 50 now have to do. So at least folk who have made enough money to retire to Thailand at say 40 should be able to do so legally, provided they meet a predefined laid down requirement, like maybe over a million Baht income or bank account balance, or maybe more than that. Whatever figure is felt reasonable by the Thai immigration authorities for anyone to retire here at a younger age. This would not only bring valuable income into Thailand but also avoid any need and temptation for those folk under 50 to have to try to break the immigration rules just to stay here and all the massive policing complications that causes.

If the British invade N. France and have the Bretons conduct a referendum to join Britain, would that be legal? Under the muzzles of unmarked troups? I know you would say "no". Same thing happened there. It was against the Ukraine constitution.

[rayw]

Watch out Thailand. Putin might annex Thailand next!

Joking apart, Putin NEVER force annexed Crimea, the Crimean people massively voted with some 85+% democratically in favour of annexing to Russia, let us all try to remember that. Facts that can be checked rather than the utter crap reported in the western presstitute media. I am neither pro Russia nor particularly now pro America either, but I do like to see some truth which is not what we are being dangerously and stupidly fed from Washington it seems these days !!!!!!!!!! I suppose if you feed folk enough false rubbish for long enough then many of course start believing it.

Personally it should be quite fair and simple, in that you should not discriminate against any race, creed, culture or religion, you judge each individual person's case on it's merits and honesty. Sure tourist visas were NEVER intended for use to stay, live and/or work in Thailand, get used to that as that is all that is now being enforced.

Only thing I will add is what I always say, is that I feel this good and sensible Government we now have here should maybe consider non-immigrant long stay visas like OA for those under 50 who can meet a reasonable financial requirement similar to what retirees over 50 now have to do. So at least folk who have made enough money to retire to Thailand at say 40 should be able to do so legally, provided they meet a predefined laid down requirement, like maybe over a million Baht income or bank account balance, or maybe more than that. Whatever figure is felt reasonable by the Thai immigration authorities for anyone to retire here at a younger age. This would not only bring valuable income into Thailand but also avoid any need and temptation for those folk under 50 to have to try to break the immigration rules just to stay here and all the massive policing complications that causes.

If the British invade N. France and have the Bretons conduct a referendum to join Britain, would that be legal? Under the muzzles of unmarked troups? I know you would say "no". Same thing happened there. It was against the Ukraine constitution.

You could also then say that so was the coup orchestrated by the US in Kiev which overthrew the elected Government there. The US have a huge vested interest in Ukraine especially with the shale gas deposits which even Biden's son has apparently invested into in East Ukraine. This is so very corrupt and all about greed and control of Ukraine's natural assets. Russia I can more understand as this is right on their doorstep, so think how the US Administration would feel and behave if China say took over control of say Mexico and/or Canada by forcing a change of Government there to a more anti US based one. This is a completely reasonable comparison if you think about it.

I think you will find Crimea was and is traditionally part of the old USSR and has been Russian since any of us can remember. The people there voted in an open election massively in favour of being annexed to Russia, they were not forced to vote t gunpoint at all though if you read the terrible Western presstitute propaganda and misinformation you would be forgiven for believing such rubbish. I suggest to get a more balanced view of what is actually happening in this region then Google search for Dr. Paul Craig Roberts articles which may give you a more open and truthful view than the western media are trying to feed us. Please believe me that things are not clear cut and as they seem if you just follow Western media and the corrupt US and its puppet western Governments.

Oh BTW I am neither pro Russian nor pro American nor am I an extreme Capitalist or Socialist either but just seek the truth and some common bloody sense and a better more peaceful life, before the "exceptional !!" and "iindispensable!!!" (their arrogant self description not mine !) US Administration cause us all to be blown to pieces with their current stupidity, corrupt greed and power crazy world dominating attitude. I am just an ordinary neutral guy, like I hope most folk here are, open mindedly seeking the truth and very concerned at what is dangerously happening right now.

Not wanting a long exchange on this as I have too much else to do right now, but suggest you, and any others here who only see the western media reports, become unblinkered and read up with an open mind some of the many articles on Dr, Paul Craig Roberts site, as he and other more open minded reporters like John Pilger. can explain it all far better than I can. Then and only then will you be properly equipped to see the story from both sides and be able to make a more thought out conclusion as to roughly where the truth is.