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But that's only one.

Domestic Internet Exchange

There are 10 domestic Internet Exchange Points in Thailand.

Before 2003, IIR Public Internet Exchange was the largest Internet exchange point in Thailand. As of August 2003, it is mandatory for all ISP to have a presence in the National Internet Exchange (CAT-NIX) operated by CAT Telecom. CAT-NIX, TIG-NIX, TOT-NIX and TTGN-NIX are primary Internet exchanges used by commercial Internet service providers. CAT-NIX is now largest Internet exchange point in Thailand with more than 100Gbit/s domestic bandwidth to all ISP. Links between different Internet exchanges are now setup, reducing domestic bandwidth costs.

The IIR Public Internet Exchange is now maintained by NECTEC and is used only for academic and research purposes. The only commercial Internet service provider connected to the IIR Public Internet Exchange is Internet Thailand.

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But I'm trying to understand what it is you posted.

Because nectec don't provide international bandwidth to ISPs, CAT-IIG does, and they can have their own (like True does).

So where do these figures come from, or do they represent nectec's connections to these ISPs?

E.g. I see True mentioned twice there, but their own gateways provide far more Internet (as in international) bandwidth (196Gb in total).

http://webcorp.trueinternet.co.th/eh/linkinter/gateway.php

Edited by Chicog
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But I'm trying to understand what it is you posted.

Because nectec don't provide international bandwidth to ISPs, CAT-IIG does, and they can have their own (like True does).

So where do these figures come from, or do they represent nectec's connections to these ISPs?

E.g. I see True mentioned twice there, but their own gateways provide far more Internet (as in international) bandwidth (196Gb in total).

http://webcorp.trueinternet.co.th/eh/linkinter/gateway.php

Nectec is some kind of government organization.

There are several other IIGs other than CAT and it shows how much peering and transit (purchased internet connectivity) they have.

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Well they appear to be involved in only research, so presumably this data must come from the ISPs themselves.

http://www.nectec.or.th/en/about-us/background.html

Probably.

Most of the ISPs don't share their international connections, not even offer a LG (Looking Glass) which is a standard procedure in the rest of the world.

Those who share, like TOTIIG, usually don't update their page frequently.

Recently True increased peering with Google, so even in prime time / weekends, I get full speed download from google drive (bluray) while my connection to rest of the world is throttled to 3mbit/s (even with vpn)

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If you don't mind oversimplifying it, there are not very many fibre optic cables that cross the ocean floors. Those that do are privately owned. ATT&T was among the first to run cables not only as trunklines in the US, but internationally.

The investments were made to lease bandwidth to various entities including ISP's.

The first thing you have to have if you want to be an ISP is WWW bandwidth. You can lease it yourself or you can piggyback on someone else who has more than he needs. You have an ISP. Your ISP needs an "ISP " It needs a gateway to the WWW.

So all of the complex graphs notwithstanding, if an ISP doesn't lease enough bandwidth for all of its customers, it will run slow. Depending on who and how it leases from, it might have plenty to England but not enough to the USA. If it doesn't have enough in-country (in its service area) it will be slow regardless of international bandwidth.

Edit. The WWW is privately owned. It may be the most amazing thing ever built by private enterprise because of the sharing and cooperation needed. Yes, some governments set up as ISP's but not without connecting to the ad hoc privately owned WWW. The WWW has grown and grown and improved all through private investment and inventions and patents

Edited by NeverSure
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It's not as bad as some countries though....

Certain countries around Caucasus have very simple backbone networks; for example, in 2011, a woman in Georgia pierced a fiber backbone line with a shovel and left the neighboring country of Armenia without Internet access for 12 hours.

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