OnNutter Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I worked on the Burj Khalifa, also the River Project in Bangkok. Love to get a gig on this baby If that's true, which company completed TQM and so forth on materials employed to build the Burj, and how do you think the Burj can anywhere near be compared with contracts going to Thai-only materials companies and builders?I'm fascinated by your feasibility of such a comparison. You do know Thai steel products and stainless is exported all over the world don't you, you do know Thai welders have been in involved in many worldwide projects don't youBut let's not let the truth get in the way of a bit of Thai bashing shall we Do you even know what TQM is ?.....it doesn't just relate to materials, or are you just pulling acronyms out your bottom ? What? If I didn't know what TQM is then I would know SFA about it. It involves the whole process, so obviously in your eyes I pulled it from my ass.Thai bashing? Where was the TQM in Phatumtani in the building process of student digs that, fortunately, collapsed before even anybody was living there, yet killed construction workers? There are thousands of annual accounts of Thai structures collapsing, because of the way they are not implemented correctly in their construction. Standards are standards, and currently all contracts to build remain here, so maybe, before knocking my post, you ought to seriously consider the risks involved when Thai construction companies tender bids for this dream project. It won't be Thais building it!! You think this tower's budget can account for no short-cuts? Think again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drand11 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Ask dubai if world's tallest bldg & largest mall can help?? Love the idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnNutter Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Here's a guy that knows what he's talking about, just do some research about the five or more buildings in central Bangkok whose basements are crammed with acro props and r.s.j.'s keeping the builing up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skildpadden Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I thought Bangkok already had plenty of large erections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I will draw a circle with a 615m radius centered on this building on my map of Bangkok and be sure not to enter that area once its built. Ok, you do that, because, yeah, it's going to fall over on you. And draw your circles around all the other skyscrapers here too. My God this forum is getting more depressing by the day, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaipod Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 This is not the first time this idea has come up. Chalerm wanted to build the tallest building in Klong Toey and open it up to tourists. he believed the tourists would eventually end up paying for the construction costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantFan Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Never heard of EC Engineering Network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaWatcher Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 somchaismith, on 27 Oct 2014 - 15:36, said:The Bangkok Phallus- come and impale yourself on this! They did mention something about worlds tallest erections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaWatcher Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Cardiff1963, on 27 Oct 2014 - 16:36, said: So what's your point? If you're posting from the UK, a failing country that country that cannot control it's borders and is ruled from Europe or USA a country with a murder rate that puts most third world countries to shame. You need to keep your concerns closer to home Mmmm, I thought this was about Bangkok, Thailand... is there a "Bangkok" in England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8OA8 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) He said he worked on it, not anything more than that. Maybe he just likes having a high view when he is working. Maybe it's Babou the tower crane driver (using a pseudo name) Edited October 27, 2014 by 8OA8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 a beacon for sustainability ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaWatcher Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 skildpadden, on 27 Oct 2014 - 17:54, said:I thought Bangkok already had plenty of large erections? No, a recent study, by a Thai professor, says the average one is on 4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tep Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What? If I didn't know what TQM is then I would know SFA about it. It involves the whole process, so obviously in your eyes I pulled it from my ass. Thai bashing? Where was the TQM in Phatumtani in the building process of student digs that, fortunately, collapsed before even anybody was living there, yet killed construction workers? There are thousands of annual accounts of Thai structures collapsing, because of the way they are not implemented correctly in their construction. Standards are standards, and currently all contracts to build remain here, so maybe, before knocking my post, you ought to seriously consider the risks involved when Thai construction companies tender bids for this dream project. It won't be Thais building it!! You think this tower's budget can account for no short-cuts? Think again. Thousands of collapsing buildings annually here? Even one thousand would mean 2 - 3 buildings a day are collapsing. Is there some gigantic coverup that we do not hear about this? That is surely enough that I could see a few of these collapses from looking out my condo window. I think some evidence is required for this statement otherwise you are being dangerously scurrilous. There are building collapses and structural failures in other countries, even developed countries. Cable TV channels are full of shows about this and other juicy stuff like air crashes. I don't see them slagging off entire countries or industries as a result of these events. Thai is not a synonym for poor standards. Thai is not a synonym for incompetence. Thai is not a synonym for regulatory black hole. Construction is a serious industry here. Investors take it seriously, Government Authorities take it seriously. Consumers take it seriously. Industry participants take it seriously. Regulators have identified cases of fraud and taken action, just like any other country. Standards, quality, safety procedures all undergo review and improvement here by industry and government just like any other country. You slag off Thailand and you slag off all of us who live and work here and engage with different industries and government in our daily lives. You find one example of dangerous practice or corruption and I assure you there are places to take this that will move into swift action. But then you have nothing. Just a loud mouth with fanciful claims to whom nobody will listen now because of the stupidity of earlier out of line remarks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentmartin Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 As long as its being built totally with private money and the ordinary working class tax payers (all 6 of them ;-) ) arent going to suffer then who gives a flying f......... Huge buildings are a status symbol and psychologically boost the populations pride and the perceived wealth to foreigners. It will bring mass employment to..errr cambos and burmese and support thousands of jobs in associated industry. All its building can do is help the economy.... win win situation for thailand, get it up my friends....... (having said all that, i agree with what the earlier poster said that in a few decades it might be the only thing visible above the sea !! ,,,buts its not my money now is it ? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 this is a American erection not a Thai erection... it will be the best built erection in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yes, Thais are good with their erections. Less so with elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richusa Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So what's your point? If you're posting from the UK, a failing country that country that cannot control it's borders and is ruled from Europe or USA a country with a murder rate that puts most third world countries to shame. You need to keep your concerns closer to home CARDIFF1963-----------GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU START BLABBERING. THE USA IS NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 60 IN MURDERS PER 100,000 PEOPLE. Malaysia and Thailand have way more than America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookChang Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Thailand, the hub of erection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If it's build the Thai way with underpaid, unskilled workers, cheap materials due to corruption and lousy safety standards, I would not even dare to go close to it. I think instead of a sky scraper it will turn out as sky high crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungmi Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> A grand gesture to the rest of the world: Bangkok's Middle Finger Wait, they will put in the Donut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yea, I have a great idea. Lets build a giant tower that will be located in a city that has been deemed to literally be sinking, along with rising water levels it will be flooded and eventually constantly under water in around 40 years. Yes, lets go ahead with this amazing plan. Bangkok has serious future problems with water and in usual Thai fashion I suspect they will wait until they have an issue instead of preparing for it. That's why they build all those skywalks to connect the skyscrapers to the skytrain... just brick up the ground floors, add a few piers for the boats that people will have to buy, and watch condo values go up when every place has "water views". What's the problem ? OK, they might have to raise the MRT entrances a bit .... Was n't Bangkok called the "Venice of the Orient " once upon a time ? It can be the "New Venice of the Orient". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 But is that not the area along the river that is prone to flooding and land slippage - sinking even? DO NOT let this get in the way of being THE BIGGEST and obviously the HUB of every large erection! Have you ever been to Thailand even. The building won't be anywhere near the river. Use Google maps and try to educate yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldnguy Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yea, I have a great idea. Lets build a giant tower that will be located in a city that has been deemed to literally be sinking, along with rising water levels it will be flooded and eventually constantly under water in around 40 years. Yes, lets go ahead with this amazing plan. Bangkok has serious future problems with water and in usual Thai fashion I suspect they will wait until they have an issue instead of preparing for it. Where do you get such nonsense from. I just read a top 10 list of cities most likely to be flooded by rising sea levels by 2100 ans 6 are in USA. Miami, New York and Boston are three of the cities. Bangkok isn't one of them. So maybe you should get over to USA and start warning them to stop building. There's no chance whatsoever of Bangkok being constantly flooded with 40 years. You are talking out you rear end. Large tunnels have already been built to deal with more water and more are currently being built and are planned. So they are doing something about it, but you just make up nonsense to fit you Thai bashing agenda. Grow up, for your own sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 But is that not the area along the river that is prone to flooding and land slippage - sinking even? DO NOT let this get in the way of being THE BIGGEST and obviously the HUB of every large erection! I am fairly certain this G Land Super Tower will be built in the G Land development on Rama 9/Ratchadapisek behind the existing Central Rama 9 and "G" building (under construction); all part of a larger effort to brand a new CBD. The design is pretty amazing, I think. There was a long thread a week or so ago which contained some insight into the feasibility re: construction and economics. Typically Thai. So over the top and unprofessional, that video. Almost childish, you might say. They are extremely big on talk and all this CGI, but somehow all the buildings we see in Bangkok -- sorry, perhaps 95 percent of them -- are pure cheap rubbish. Just like the CGI condos and surrounding grounds NEVER reasonably resemble the finished product. Just like the people in their over blown-out, whitewashed photos never reasonably resemble the real, much less white people. Just like the juvenille nature of most of the electorate who are so far removed from reality and the world around them that they truly think Thai Democracy is a unique thing being brought to the world. Major issues with most things in Thailand is the arrogance and lack of proper self-assessment and self-reflection that enables people to detach themselves from the real world to live in a realm of pure fantasy where they truly think they are what they are truly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retsdon Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 A super tower, rising like a Phoenix above the klongside shacks and shambolic planning of Thailand's capital city. These penile extensions are tasteless enough in places like Dubai, but in a developing nation like Thailand there's something immoral about the whole idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 There was big big budget allocated for flood control a few years back. Seems only 5% went to actual flood control. Is this fine building going to be put up by same firm that had that 90+ story job in Jomtien? May get in trouble with Junta: No erections until next year! QC is one major major area of concern to me. One thing that would cause me to pull up stakes is if Thailand built a reactor. I don't trust their integrity for some reason... Maybe put Viagra in concrete to ensure erection stays up long enough to finish it? What is the amulet budget on this, btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 tout it as an investment, then abandon the project ( and keep the money) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaullyW Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) A super tower, rising like a Phoenix above the klongside shacks and shambolic planning of Thailand's capital city. These penile extensions are tasteless enough in places like Dubai, but in a developing nation like Thailand there's something immoral about the whole idea. And no doubt it will be afflicted with transformers blowing up and power outages just like other very tall, very "fancy" buildings in Bangkok - one of which I work in. Lack of properly fast and enough elevators, and Thais will STILL try to push their way into the elevator before people can get out. Ingress and egress points will not be thought about until AFTER the building is built. The building with STILL be hot and uncomfortable in public spaces because none of the cheap tenants and owners will want to share the costs of running the A/C to make those spaces comfortable. Bathrooms will STILL have those useless, cheap hand air dryers which serve no purpose at all since you have to dry your hands with the cheap, single-ply, disintegrating toilet paper or simply wipe your hands on your clothing. The windows (in one of the world's hottest cities) will STILL lack proper U/V and heat blocking. They will STILL manage to find enough cheap vendor relatives, friends and other dubious business people to clog up and constrict the walkways that people will barely be able to move around comfortably. It will still smell semi-regularly of sewage because they can't seem to figure out sewage, nation-wide. There will STILL be dangling, dangerous and messy power and telco lines all over immediately outside the building. The escalators will still be cheap and broken down ever 3rd day. But, all joking aside, I do have FULL CONFIDENCE that they will get one thing perfect: the food court will be spectacular. That is what they do well! Com'mon man. TIT Edited October 27, 2014 by PaullyW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiff1963 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 So what's your point? If you're posting from the UK, a failing country that country that cannot control it's borders and is ruled from Europe or USA a country with a murder rate that puts most third world countries to shame. You need to keep your concerns closer to home CARDIFF1963-----------GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU START BLABBERING. THE USA IS NOT EVEN IN THE TOP 60 IN MURDERS PER 100,000 PEOPLE. Malaysia and Thailand have way more than America. No need for you yanks to shout. The USA murder rate is smack in the middle other third world countries. No civilised country is anywhere near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiff1963 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Cardiff1963, on 27 Oct 2014 - 16:36, said: So what's your point? If you're posting from the UK, a failing country that country that cannot control it's borders and is ruled from Europe or USA a country with a murder rate that puts most third world countries to shame. You need to keep your concerns closer to home Mmmm, I thought this was about Bangkok, Thailand... is there a "Bangkok" in England?Try paying attention to the media you're watching and you may realise Cardiff is not in England. Of course if you watch fox news I fully understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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