Only 3 Thai varsities in list of top 100 universities

[luk AJ]

I'm shocked they even made the top 100!

Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300.

[thailiketoo]

I'm shocked they even made the top 100!

Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300.

http://www.webometrics.info/en/world?page=2

Mahidol University # 273

So where does your university rank? Only fair since you wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300." My daughter's is in the top 2 and mine is in the top 20.

[luk AJ]

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking/

[trogers]

Symptomatic of the parlous state of education in Thailand at every level. The system is badly broken and needs fixing. For a country that spends a sizable proportion of GSP there is very little to show for it. Like many things here it is all about style over substance. Next!

Naah...wait out a decade or so and the Thais will claim the number one spot - when Yingluk's tablets kids become of age.

[thailiketoo]

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking/

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

[bangon04]

Czech Republic, a member of the EU, will be delighted to know that they are regarded as an emerging nation.....

[luk AJ]

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2014-15/world-ranking/

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

your point?

[KhnomKhnom]

I would guess it is impossible to get a thorough education inside Red China due to the controls on what the Party takes as wrong or just not to be taught. Anytime a political system interferes with the free and protected search for and teaching of the truth as the professor sees it, then schools under that system can not be ranked very high and certainly not equal to the genuinely free universities.

Other than the damping effect of Thai culture's desire to go along to get along and to remain accepted by a group, I found MU very free in regard to research and teaching. Probing critiques are not encouraged, as would be expected, which retards the standard scientific method of repetitive checking of findings, however. This factor limits use or consideration of Thai-originated research in many fields which also takes Thailand out of the international exchange and testing of ideas and techniques. The factor also limits how Thai professors will link into fine tuning and INTERchange their research/teaching via international critiques and testing.

These facts make Thailand isolated intellectually, even if nearly completely free for free individual thought.

On an allied matter, because Thailand censors art extensively, its artists' works are suspect and almost impossible to take a valued place on the world stage. A good example is the Thai national who made a film (about Boomea) could win the Cannes highest award, the Palm Dor, but can only show uncut versions of it inside Thailand if any. This situation further isolates Thailand from the genuine world intellectual community.

[KhnomKhnom]

I would guess it is impossible to get a thorough education inside Red China due to the controls on what the Party takes as wrong or just not to be taught. Anytime a political system interferes with the free and protected search for and teaching of the truth as the professor sees it, then schools under that system can not be ranked very high and certainly not equal to the genuinely free universities.

Other than the damping effect of Thai culture's desire to go along to get along and to remain accepted by a group, I found MU very free in regard to research and teaching. Probing critiques are not encouraged, as would be expected, which retards the standard scientific method of repetitive checking of findings, however. This factor limits use or consideration of Thai-originated research in many fields which also takes Thailand out of the international exchange and testing of ideas and techniques. The factor also limits how Thai professors will link into fine tuning and INTERchange their research/teaching via international critiques and testing.

These facts make Thailand isolated intellectually, even if nearly completely free for free individual thought.

On an allied matter, because Thailand censors art extensively, its artists' works are suspect and almost impossible to take a valued place on the world stage. A good example is the Thai national who made a film (about Boomea) could win the Cannes highest award, the Palm Dor, but can only show uncut versions of it inside Thailand if any. This situation further isolates Thailand from the genuine world intellectual community.

correction....... "only show CUT versions of... "

[Morakot]

KMUTT could be a model for other Thai universities. Its graduates can think, manage, create, contribute ...not surprising that its status is confirmed in these rankings

Nothing directly to do with ranking the quality of graduates. Thai universities are not getting into this ranking because their research infrastructure is stuck in the first part of the last century. Obsessed with tick box exercises and a partially irrelevant concern for maintaining hierarchical structures that are geared towards an inward focus.

KNUTT is an exception here because it managed to attract unprecedented amount of industrial funding for some serious research projects.

Edited December 4, 2014 by Morakot

[Stradavarius37]

Symptomatic of the parlous state of education in Thailand at every level. The system is badly broken and needs fixing. For a country that spends a sizable proportion of GSP there is very little to show for it. Like many things here it is all about style over substance. Next!

How to fix it?

Edited December 4, 2014 by Stradavarius37

[Stradavarius37]

I would guess it is impossible to get a thorough education inside Red China due to the controls on what the Party takes as wrong or just not to be taught. Anytime a political system interferes with the free and protected search for and teaching of the truth as the professor sees it, then schools under that system can not be ranked very high and certainly not equal to the genuinely free universities.

Other than the damping effect of Thai culture's desire to go along to get along and to remain accepted by a group, I found MU very free in regard to research and teaching. Probing critiques are not encouraged, as would be expected, which retards the standard scientific method of repetitive checking of findings, however. This factor limits use or consideration of Thai-originated research in many fields which also takes Thailand out of the international exchange and testing of ideas and techniques. The factor also limits how Thai professors will link into fine tuning and INTERchange their research/teaching via international critiques and testing.

These facts make Thailand isolated intellectually, even if nearly completely free for free individual thought.

On an allied matter, because Thailand censors art extensively, its artists' works are suspect and almost impossible to take a valued place on the world stage. A good example is the Thai national who made a film (about Boomea) could win the Cannes highest award, the Palm Dor, but can only show uncut versions of it inside Thailand if any. This situation further isolates Thailand from the genuine world intellectual community.

Pour yourself another Pops.

[Stradavarius37]

Send your kids to the University of Life. You can study in any country and the skills learnt will be useful anywhere. Courses can be any length but a lifetime is the preferred option.

Thus spake Taxi Driver.

[thailiketoo]

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

your point?

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

[carter1882]

Taxi driver!! Ha....actually my eldest is doing her masters at a small place called Oxford. On a scholarship. But it diesnt have to be that way; many people need no further education or no education at all in order to be a success. I was a teacher for thirty years but i am completely at ease with these notions. Oh and what us wrong with being a taxi driver......could be better than being a bigot.

[luk AJ]

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

your point?

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

please contact the people who manage the list of the world ranking top universities (see link I inserted in previous post). I did not give any personal comment nor opinion.

[thailiketoo]

please contact the people who manage the list of the world ranking top universities (see link I inserted in previous post). I did not give any personal comment nor opinion.

No need; I posted more accurate, detailed information (see below) that I have also verified by experience. Thailand has 197 colleges that produce between 300,000 and 400,000 new graduates per year. Mahidol and Chula are both good schools.

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa....ience-category/

Edited December 4, 2014 by thailiketoo

[Thai at Heart]

"China has dramatically strengthened its position as No 1 in emerging economies"

If that means China is taking over other emerging economies to feed it's own insatiable appetite for resources I'd agree.

Gee, like our Western economic giants, or former giants, never did, eh? China is a powerhouse, and I disagree with calling them an emerging economy; at least they are a re-emerging economy after having been the original world hegemon. Criticizing them for their insatiable desire for resources is indeed the pot calling the kettle black. China has managed to become the second greatest economy on earth, and will most likely become number one. Former world hegemons like the UK are what, number 3 in Europe; when Germany, Europe's greatest economic power, is number 4 in the world. Even emerging economies like Brazil are ahead of the UK--looks pretty much like Spain, another former world hegemon's economic tailspin, eh? If things don't change in the US, they will be right behind.

http://www.thenewstrack.com/top-ten-biggest-economies-in-the-world-2014/

You think they will have enough growth to give all these highly qualified graduates jobs.

That will be the next issue they face. Servile, loyal students who worked their ass off chasing the communist dream flipping burgers in McDonalds.

They need at least 8% growth to absorb the new graduates every year. Absokutely impossible in the long term

[Thai at Heart]

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

your point?

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

Define good....

[englishoak]

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

your point?

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

Define good....

Not good enough to practice medicine in the UK without further medical education. I know two who graduated from Mahidol and both had to do further study in the UK before being able to work here at the level they expected it may have changed but i doubt it.

Thai degrees are barely equal to a UK diploma a Thai masters is even more useless.

Thailand Masters Degree (Plan A, research based) Is only considered comparable to British Bachelor (Honours) degree standard Masters Degree (Plan B limited research) Is considered comparable to British Bachelor degree standard.

So you can study for often nearly twice as long in Thailand for half the quality then youll have to go study much more again after if you want to keep up with your international peers. What a nightmare and drain on both time and money.

Thai education top to bottom is on the whole rubbish.

[blastface]

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

Not good enough to practice medicine in the UK without further medical education. I know two who graduated from Mahidol and both had to do further study in the UK before being able to work here at the level they expected it may have changed but i doubt it.

Thai degrees are barely equal to a UK diploma a Thai masters is even more useless.

Thailand Masters Degree (Plan A, research based) Is only considered comparable to British Bachelor (Honours) degree standard Masters Degree (Plan B limited research) Is considered comparable to British Bachelor degree standard.

So you can study for often nearly twice as long in Thailand for half the quality then youll have to go study much more again after if you want to keep up with your international peers. What a nightmare and drain on both time and money.

Thai education top to bottom is on the whole rubbish.

Exactly! That doesn't even mention the fact that standard Bachelor's degrees from the US are the equivalent of a first class honours from a UK school so that even proves your point further!

[englishoak]

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

Not good enough to practice medicine in the UK without further medical education. I know two who graduated from Mahidol and both had to do further study in the UK before being able to work here at the level they expected it may have changed but i doubt it.

Thai degrees are barely equal to a UK diploma a Thai masters is even more useless.

Thailand Masters Degree (Plan A, research based) Is only considered comparable to British Bachelor (Honours) degree standard Masters Degree (Plan B limited research) Is considered comparable to British Bachelor degree standard.

So you can study for often nearly twice as long in Thailand for half the quality then youll have to go study much more again after if you want to keep up with your international peers. What a nightmare and drain on both time and money.

Thai education top to bottom is on the whole rubbish.

Exactly! That doesn't even mention the fact that standard Bachelor's degrees from the US are the equivalent of a first class honours from a UK school so that even proves your point further!

Incorrect a first professional degree from the US is equal to a honours nothing else.. a regular US degree is the same as a standard degree in the UK, both systems are on par with each other really.

http://www.education.gov.uk/ta-assets/~/media/get_into_teaching/resources/subjects_age_groups/overseas_grade_comparison.pdf

Edited December 4, 2014 by englishoak

[thailiketoo]

Define good....

Not good enough to practice medicine in the UK without further medical education. I know two who graduated from Mahidol and both had to do further study in the UK before being able to work here at the level they expected it may have changed but i doubt it.

Thai degrees are barely equal to a UK diploma a Thai masters is even more useless.

Thailand Masters Degree (Plan A, research based) Is only considered comparable to British Bachelor (Honours) degree standard Masters Degree (Plan B limited research) Is considered comparable to British Bachelor degree standard.

So you can study for often nearly twice as long in Thailand for half the quality then youll have to go study much more again after if you want to keep up with your international peers. What a nightmare and drain on both time and money.

Thai education top to bottom is on the whole rubbish.

I presented some detailed information that confirms that Mahidal is a good school. "MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine."

Lets talk doctors to doctors. How many years of medical school in Thailand? How many years of medical school in the UK? How many years medical school in the USA?

I presented some good factual information about medical schools. You provided your opinion, "Thai education top to bottom is on the whole rubbish."

So in the absence of linked information on your part I will assume you are an authority on medical education in Thailand.

At this point I should mention that I have nothing but respect for taxi drivers from the UK although I think they might not be my first source on medical education in Thailand.

Edited December 5, 2014 by thailiketoo

[Stradavarius37]

BANGKOK: -- MAHIDOL University has been named one of Asia's top 10 science and medical universities in the latest QS World University Rankings.

Overall, MU was the 257th-ranked university in the world and Asia's 49th, according to British publisher Quacquarelli Symonds (QS).

It was No 117 in the world for science and medicine.

Chulalongkorn University remain-ed Thailand's top university for the eighth year in a row after being ranked No 243 in the world. The rankings began in 2007.

In Asia, CU was ranked 45th, Chiang Mai University 104th, Kasetsart University 135th and Thammasat University 150th.

The world's top five-ranked universities in order are the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Cambridge, Imperial College London, Harvard University and the University of Oxford.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/763498-mahidol-university-named-top-in-medical-science-category/

your point?

You wrote, "Top 100 "emerging economies" globally you won't find them in the top 300."

MAHIDOL has a very good medical school. If you don't know you shouldn't post.

Define good....

Not good enough to practice medicine in the UK without further medical education. I know two who graduated from Mahidol and both had to do further study in the UK before being able to work here at the level they expected it may have changed but i doubt it.

Thai degrees are barely equal to a UK diploma a Thai masters is even more useless.

Thailand Masters Degree (Plan A, research based) Is only considered comparable to British Bachelor (Honours) degree standard Masters Degree (Plan B limited research) Is considered comparable to British Bachelor degree standard.

So you can study for often nearly twice as long in Thailand for half the quality then youll have to go study much more again after if you want to keep up with your international peers. What a nightmare and drain on both time and money.

Thai education top to bottom is on the whole rubbish.

Cite proof of that comparison - sounds like you pulled it out of your a$$

[smotherb]

"China has dramatically strengthened its position as No 1 in emerging economies"

If that means China is taking over other emerging economies to feed it's own insatiable appetite for resources I'd agree.

Gee, like our Western economic giants, or former giants, never did, eh? China is a powerhouse, and I disagree with calling them an emerging economy; at least they are a re-emerging economy after having been the original world hegemon. Criticizing them for their insatiable desire for resources is indeed the pot calling the kettle black. China has managed to become the second greatest economy on earth, and will most likely become number one. Former world hegemons like the UK are what, number 3 in Europe; when Germany, Europe's greatest economic power, is number 4 in the world. Even emerging economies like Brazil are ahead of the UK--looks pretty much like Spain, another former world hegemon's economic tailspin, eh? If things don't change in the US, they will be right behind.

http://www.thenewstrack.com/top-ten-biggest-economies-in-the-world-2014/

You think they will have enough growth to give all these highly qualified graduates jobs.

That will be the next issue they face. Servile, loyal students who worked their ass off chasing the communist dream flipping burgers in McDonalds.

They need at least 8% growth to absorb the new graduates every year. Absokutely impossible in the long term

I was referring to economic powers and their use of natural resources to get there. However, I do think I would opt for over-education instead of under-education. You never know, one of those bored unemployed engineers may come up with more than bored unemployed hamburger flippers.

[Thai at Heart]

"China has dramatically strengthened its position as No 1 in emerging economies"

If that means China is taking over other emerging economies to feed it's own insatiable appetite for resources I'd agree.

Gee, like our Western economic giants, or former giants, never did, eh? China is a powerhouse, and I disagree with calling them an emerging economy; at least they are a re-emerging economy after having been the original world hegemon. Criticizing them for their insatiable desire for resources is indeed the pot calling the kettle black. China has managed to become the second greatest economy on earth, and will most likely become number one. Former world hegemons like the UK are what, number 3 in Europe; when Germany, Europe's greatest economic power, is number 4 in the world. Even emerging economies like Brazil are ahead of the UK--looks pretty much like Spain, another former world hegemon's economic tailspin, eh? If things don't change in the US, they will be right behind.

http://www.thenewstrack.com/top-ten-biggest-economies-in-the-world-2014/

You think they will have enough growth to give all these highly qualified graduates jobs.

That will be the next issue they face. Servile, loyal students who worked their ass off chasing the communist dream flipping burgers in McDonalds.

They need at least 8% growth to absorb the new graduates every year. Absokutely impossible in the long term

I was referring to economic powers and their use of natural resources to get there. However, I do think I would opt for over-education instead of under-education. You never know, one of those bored unemployed engineers may come up with more than bored unemployed hamburger flippers.

Its a problem because the numbers are so enormous in China and because it is communist.

Getting the young to buy into communism is part and parcel in securing the future of the Party. If there are millions of unemployed graduates who threw their lot in with the authoritarian state because it promised them prosperity, what happens when they are prospering?

[zydeco]

University rankings and list making have become a lucrative industry. Mostly, it has very little meaning in substance. The case of China's "rise" is a good example. Chinese "scholars" are notorious for plagiarizing their work in some of the most basic cut and paste jobs imaginable. Large portions of their publications are in phony peer reviewed, online "open source" journals whose designation as "scholarly" contrasts with the fees they charge their authors in order to publish in them. The fact is that people who teach in universities know who is good and who is not, whose work is valuable and whose is not. Lists and rankings are for the rubes.

http://www.economist.com/news/china/21586845-flawed-system-judging-research-leading-academic-fraud-looks-good-paper

Edited December 5, 2014 by zydeco

[bri958]

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[smotherb]

ThaiatHeart said, "Its a problem because the numbers are so enormous in China and because it is communist.Getting the young to buy into communism is part and parcel in securing the future of the Party. If there are millions of unemployed graduates who threw their lot in with the authoritarian state because it promised them prosperity, what happens when they are prospering?"

I think you may want to re-check the current validity of your statements. As early as the turn of the century, the Chinese government called their business vision: "Capitalism with Chinese characteristics" This capitalist vent is an inherent part of Chinese business ideology and is taught in all business school curricula. China's young lions are being heard in business, how do you think the Chinese have grown so much economically? Of course, those Chinese characteristics are partly communist, but more related to traditional Chinese merchant-thinking. They're not advocates of a planned economy anymore."

[Thai at Heart]

ThaiatHeart said, "Its a problem because the numbers are so enormous in China and because it is communist.Getting the young to buy into communism is part and parcel in securing the future of the Party. If there are millions of unemployed graduates who threw their lot in with the authoritarian state because it promised them prosperity, what happens when they are prospering?"

I think you may want to re-check the current validity of your statements. As early as the turn of the century, the Chinese government called their business vision: "Capitalism with Chinese characteristics" This capitalist vent is an inherent part of Chinese business ideology and is taught in all business school curricula. China's young lions are being heard in business, how do you think the Chinese have grown so much economically? Of course, those Chinese characteristics are partly communist, but more related to traditional Chinese merchant-thinking. They're not advocates of a planned economy anymore."

What does the communist party exist for then, if the people are going to be denied the right to vote?

Its sole reason to exist is to deliver weatlh so that it can stay in power. That is it. Case close. Why would the people support it if , it doesn't deliver wealth to the people? Because it sure as hell isn't delivering freedom and choice.

If it doesn't deliver wealt, how would the people go ahead and change the communist party? Bullet or ballot?