Thai Court accepts trial of 'Men in Black' perpetrators during anti govt rallies in 2010

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Court accepts trial of 'Men in Black' perpetrators during anti government rallies in 2010



BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court has accepted for trial five members of the so-called "Men in Black" group for their violent attacks at anti-government rallies in the capital in 2010.

The first hearing was set on December 8 at 9.00 am.

ัThe five suspects are Kittisak Sumsri, 45, Preecha or Kaitia Yooyen, 24, Ronarit or Na Suricha, 33, Chamnan ornLek Pakichai, 45, and Mrs Punika or Orn Choosri, 39.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

The state prosecutor said they were arrested on September 10 last year and detained pending court trial.

But the prosecutor said all the suspects denied the charges during the interrogation process, and asked the court to punish them in accordance with the serious crimes they committed.

After hearing the charges and looking through the supporting evidence, the court accepted the case for trial and set December 8 as the first date for hearing of the charges and asking if the suspects wanting to plead guilty or deny them.

(Photo : Thai PBS File )

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/court-accepts-trial-men-black-perpetrators-anti-government-rallies-2010

-- Thai PBS 2014-12-05

[Anthony5]

It is clear from the picture who are the accused, it's however unclear if the real perpetrators are seated in front or behind the table.

[dcutman]

It is clear from the picture who are the accused, it's however unclear if the real perpetrators are seated in front or behind the table.

most likely both, in front and behind.

[city]

There has been that many anti government demonstrations. 2010 I believe was red shirt rally season. Correct me by all means. Was it not the defence of many a misguided fool on here that the army were ok in there over the top reaponse and killing 90+ people because the red shirts were using men dressed in black.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool

[whybother]

There has been that many anti government demonstrations. 2010 I believe was red shirt rally season. Correct me by all means. Was it not the defence of many a misguided fool on here that the army were ok in there over the top reaponse and killing 90+ people because the red shirts were using men dressed in black.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool

The army didn't kill 90+ people. The red shirt militia killed some of them.

Is it an over the top response to go in armed the same as the armed protesters?

edit: but your highlighted point is most likely an editing mistake.

Edited December 5, 2014 by whybother

[Tatsujin]

The scapegoats (or patsies) are at the front wearing the red ribbons (lest they be confused with the other Police), whilst the masterminds/organizers are the ones in uniform ...

[city]

There has been that many anti government demonstrations. 2010 I believe was red shirt rally season. Correct me by all means. Was it not the defence of many a misguided fool on here that the army were ok in there over the top reaponse and killing 90+ people because the red shirts were using men dressed in black.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool

The army didn't kill 90+ people. The red shirt militia killed some of them.

Is it an over the top response to go in armed the same as the armed protesters?

edit: but your highlighted point is most likely an editing mistake.

Links to how many the red shirt militia killed. The biggest crux of many arguments here was that the army were justified in a heavy response because of things like the men in black were shooting at them. From this reports it would appear the men in black were batting for the khakis or the incumbent government ie...Democrats

[whybother]

There has been that many anti government demonstrations. 2010 I believe was red shirt rally season. Correct me by all means. Was it not the defence of many a misguided fool on here that the army were ok in there over the top reaponse and killing 90+ people because the red shirts were using men dressed in black.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool

The army didn't kill 90+ people. The red shirt militia killed some of them.

Is it an over the top response to go in armed the same as the armed protesters?

edit: but your highlighted point is most likely an editing mistake.

Links to how many the red shirt militia killed. The biggest crux of many arguments here was that the army were justified in a heavy response because of things like the men in black were shooting at them. From this reports it would appear the men in black were batting for the khakis or the incumbent government ie...Democrats

You're basing your argument on this one newspaper report with an obvious error??

[city]

There has been that many anti government demonstrations. 2010 I believe was red shirt rally season. Correct me by all means. Was it not the defence of many a misguided fool on here that the army were ok in there over the top reaponse and killing 90+ people because the red shirts were using men dressed in black.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool

The army didn't kill 90+ people. The red shirt militia killed some of them.

Is it an over the top response to go in armed the same as the armed protesters?

edit: but your highlighted point is most likely an editing mistake.

Links to how many the red shirt militia killed. The biggest crux of many arguments here was that the army were justified in a heavy response because of things like the men in black were shooting at them. From this reports it would appear the men in black were batting for the khakis or the incumbent government ie...Democrats

You're basing your argument on this one newspaper report with an obvious error??

I know exactly what I am doing. The incident was where the six officers died in a grenade attack....funny how the Dems were in power for a long time after the rally but could never prove who did it. Most likely outcome was that another part of the military pulled the pin, tossed and watched it escalate. Desired effect achieved

[city]

Wonder if the good general will pursue the murder of a nurse in the temple grounds with such gusto.

[JOC]

Just love the staged photo in the OP!!

Almost as high class as the re-enactment circus on Koh Tao!!

Of course the suspects had been wearing their black outfits for more than 3 years, just waiting for the police to arrest them??

Justice and Thailand should not be mentioned in the same sentence!!

[JOC]

Wonder if the good general will pursue the murder of a nurse in the temple grounds with such gusto.

Sorry mate, no political gains to be made from that one!!

[whybother]

I know exactly what I am doing. The incident was where the six officers died in a grenade attack....funny how the Dems were in power for a long time after the rally but could never prove who did it. Most likely outcome was that another part of the military pulled the pin, tossed and watched it escalate. Desired effect achieved

You obviously don't know what you're doing. Six officers didn't die in a grenade attack. Only Colonel Romklao died in the grenade attack.

There are plenty of photos and videos of armed men amongst the red shirt protesters, some who later turned up on red shirt stages.

[than]

The scapegoats (or patsies) are at the front wearing the red ribbons (lest they be confused with the other Police), whilst the masterminds/organizers are the ones in uniform ...

Probably a former police colonel how flee country few years ago

[than]

Just love the staged photo in the OP!!

Almost as high class as the re-enactment circus on Koh Tao!!

Of course the suspects had been wearing their black outfits for more than 3 years, just waiting for the police to arrest them??

Justice and Thailand should not be mentioned in the same sentence!!

Only red fanatic shirt believe Men in black don't exist, all other Thai know the true, Men is black come from red movement

[mikemac]

Wonder if the good general will pursue the murder of a nurse in the temple grounds with such gusto.

Sorry mate, no political gains to be made from that one!!

As is the case with most of your comments !

[whybother]

Wonder if the good general will pursue the murder of a nurse in the temple grounds with such gusto.

Sorry mate, no political gains to be made from that one!!

Hasn't it already been determined that the army did it and the army can't be held accountable for it?

[mikemac]

The scapegoats (or patsies) are at the front wearing the red ribbons (lest they be confused with the other Police), whilst the masterminds/organizers are the ones in uniform ...

The first part of your comment is spot on, those terrorists in black are Thaksin's patsies.

The second part is pure b/s, the mastermind / organizer / evil monster who funded and orchestrated this debacle, was and still is, one Thaksin Shinawatra.

Most people, Thai and western, know this, few will admit it.

[Krataiboy]

. . . the prosecutor said all the suspects denied the charges during the interrogation process, and asked the court to punish them in accordance with the serious crimes they committed.

Ugh? Can somebody (other than a Thai journalist) explain what this means, please.

[TPI]

"But the prosecutor said all the suspects denied the charges during the interrogation process, and asked the court to punish them in accordance with the serious crimes they committed."

Forgive me if I've got this wrong but......exactly who is asking the court to punish them? The prosecutor or the suspects?

[whybother]

. . . the prosecutor said all the suspects denied the charges during the interrogation process, and asked the court to punish them in accordance with the serious crimes they committed.

Ugh? Can somebody (other than a Thai journalist) explain what this means, please.

"But the prosecutor said all the suspects denied the charges during the interrogation process, and asked the court to punish them in accordance with the serious crimes they committed."

Forgive me if I've got this wrong but......exactly who is asking the court to punish them? The prosecutor or the suspects?

I expect it should read:

But the prosecutor said "all the suspects denied the charges during the interrogation process", and then the prosecutor asked the court "to punish them in accordance with the serious crimes they committed."

[Baerboxer]

Wonder if the good general will pursue the murder of a nurse in the temple grounds with such gusto.

Well Yingluck, Chalerm and Tarit didn't bother pursuing anybody who attacked, murdered and threatened opponents of Thaksin's puppet regime. In fact no one in the RTP bothered, even when innocent bystanders and children were murdered.

If you bothered to read all the reports regarding the 2010 insurgency you'd see that not all attacks were carried out by the military, and some of those that were not resulted in innocent deaths. Do your own research or continue to post politically biased nonsense - up to you.

[Baerboxer]

I know exactly what I am doing. The incident was where the six officers died in a grenade attack....funny how the Dems were in power for a long time after the rally but could never prove who did it. Most likely outcome was that another part of the military pulled the pin, tossed and watched it escalate. Desired effect achieved

You obviously don't know what you're doing. Six officers didn't die in a grenade attack. Only Colonel Romklao died in the grenade attack.

There are plenty of photos and videos of armed men amongst the red shirt protesters, some who later turned up on red shirt stages.

Of course he knows what he's doing. He is a Shinawattra supporter. Simply lie, make things up as long as it suits your agenda. Just following his role models. Always hope some will accept their version.

[Boxclever]

and of course NO military personal has been charged with the slaughter of 90+ peaceful protestors taking refuge in a temple compound and throughout the protest areas. Remember, these protestors where fighting for the return of freedom and democracy and yet this yellow shirt backed fascist junta is witch hunting and scape goats they can get their hands on. The reason these suspects have full face masks on is because they have just been "interrogated" by the military (the ones wearing black with guns in the photo).

[gamini]

There has been that many anti government demonstrations. 2010 I believe was red shirt rally season. Correct me by all means. Was it not the defence of many a misguided fool on here that the army were ok in there over the top reaponse and killing 90+ people because the red shirts were using men dressed in black.

They were charged with carrying war weapon which included M79 grenade launchers, M16, AK 47 and HK 33 assault rifles into the capital, and used them against anti- government protesters gathering at the Democracy monument on April 10, 2010.

Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool

The army didn't kill 90+ people. The red shirt militia killed some of them.

Is it an over the top response to go in armed the same as the armed protesters?

edit: but your highlighted point is most likely an editing mistake.

I don't think it is an editing mistake they deliberatly fired at the protesters to make look like as if it was the army.

[whybother]

and of course NO military personal has been charged with the slaughter of 90+ peaceful protestors taking refuge in a temple compound and throughout the protest areas. Remember, these protestors where fighting for the return of freedom and democracy and yet this yellow shirt backed fascist junta is witch hunting and scape goats they can get their hands on. The reason these suspects have full face masks on is because they have just been "interrogated" by the military (the ones wearing black with guns in the photo).

"NO military personal has been charged with the slaughter of 90+ peaceful protestors"

That might be because "90+ peaceful protesters" were not slaughtered.

Remember that these protesters were trying to over throw a democratic and legitimately formed government.

[gamini]

The scapegoats (or patsies) are at the front wearing the red ribbons (lest they be confused with the other Police), whilst the masterminds/organizers are the ones in uniform ...

nonsence these people were protected by the previous government. They fired at the army and started all the bloodshed

[gamini]

and of course NO military personal has been charged with the slaughter of 90+ peaceful protestors taking refuge in a temple compound and throughout the protest areas. Remember, these protestors where fighting for the return of freedom and democracy and yet this yellow shirt backed fascist junta is witch hunting and scape goats they can get their hands on. The reason these suspects have full face masks on is because they have just been "interrogated" by the military (the ones wearing black with guns in the photo).

parotting the same old red shirt properganda

[mikemac]

@ city -

....................."Have I just got this all mixed up and its me who is the misguided fool"......................

Yes !

[EnglishJohn]

I don't really care at all about these people. They are just typical red-shirt thugs who will fire grenades into innocent people for a couple of thousand baht. There are plenty of them out there and these scumbags are nothing special.

What we really want is to know who put out the order for them to start the shooting. Who gave the order to reject Abhisit's offer of elections and guarantee the bloodbath which would surely follow if they attacked the Army in the manner they did ?. Whoever that might be is responsible for every death which occurred and is a murdering terrorist just as much as anyone who fired their M79.

There is no way the UDD would make such an extreme move without orders from the very top. You have to be very dim indeed not to be able to work out where the order must have come from.