Chinese tourists really cut in front of Thai at check-in, Lion Air staff say

[scorecard]

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Now they think they own the world and can get away with all their BS behaviour

Makes a change from the Americans doing this

I have two opposite examples:

1. The hotel I use often when I travel to Bkk from the North - They have stopped accepting Chinese tour groups. Why: no manners whatever when they are checking in en masse, theft of the towels etc., from guest rooms, at the buffet breakfast they either take plastic bags to the food warmers and empty them or take the food warmers to their table, plus steal plates, cutlery etc., And throw lots of food scraps on the floor.

2. Several years back I arrived at the new Shanghai International airport. There are many double sided passport desks, probably the largest set of such desks I've ever seen, fast computers and at that time many English speaking immigration people helping arrivees to get their arrival documents ready.

On this specific day there were more than usual incoming flights and progress through passport check was a little slower than usual but it was also moving quite well.

An american woman just in front of me grabbed the arm of a Chinese immigration official as he was walking along the line and instructing his staff to take families with children to a separate set of passport booths.

The yank woman grabbed his arm and spun him around, then she yelled in his face 'I'm an American citizen I don't have to put up with this' . The officer was very calm, he quickly spoke on his walkie/talkie and two soldiers appeared very quickly. They immediately picked up the woman, one soldier under each arm and her bags, and with her legs dangling they 'escorted' her to the end of the line. Not a word spoken.

Edited December 29, 2014 by scorecard

[carter1882]

The ability to queue is a sign of civilisation. Things have improved in this regard a great deal over the thirty years i have been in Thailand. It amuses me to see the locals queue so politely at the sides of the opening doors on mrt and bts. Back in the eighties i would never have believed it possible. Where great rudeness still exists though is in queueing in cars. But then something seems to overcome their inherent politeness when enclosed in a metal and glass frame while holding a wheel.

[scorecard]

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This cut in front of me all the time. Not as bad as Chinese people.
It's more subtle but they do it too.

I may just notice it more because that kind of behavior in the US will get you punched in the head.

Well it goes both ways. A few years back I walked up to the check-in desk at houstin international airport, to travel back home to Thailand. I put my suitcase on the scale and my documents on top of the counter.

The middle aged check-in woman stood up, leaned over the desk, and loudly yelled in my face 'can't you read' and at the same time she was pointing upwards.

After a few seconds I realized that there a very small notice on chains suspended from the ceiling but up quite high saying 'check your bags in at row XXX then come here to get your boarding pass. The sign was small and many folks would have trouble to read the small lettering.

I apologized, went and check-in my suitcase and returned. The woman again berated me for wasting her time.

[ozyjon]

Some of my funniest moments have been watching Chinese queuing for trains and buses in rural China

Could not agree more, i just can't understand where they have to push to the front every time

i think it's lack of education and respect for other people, always in a hurry those people.

For what i wonder.

Quick get in so we can get a good seat (remember the boarding pass)

[Yahooka]

These new type of Chinese tourist are the worst when it comes to sneak in front of you.As others here mention it`s just to practice sharp elbows and the word "No" in a hard voice more in the years to come.The folks on TV who enjoy the numbers of Russians here dropping will regret it as more of these annoying knuckleheads from mainland China will swamp Thailand like a locust plague in the future.

They are the worst group of tourists coming here,ever IMO.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Yahooka

[alex8912]

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Now they think they own the world and can get away with all their BS behaviour

Makes a change from the Americans doing this

I have two opposite examples:

1. The hotel I use often when I travel to Bkk from the North - They have stopped accepting Chinese tour groups. Why: no manners whatever when they are checking in en masse, theft of the towels etc., from guest rooms, at the buffet breakfast they either take plastic bags to the food warmers and empty them or take the food warmers to their table, plus steal plates, cutlery etc., And throw lots of food scraps on the floor.

2. Several years back I arrived at the new Shanghai International airport. There are many double sided passport desks, probably the largest set of such desks I've ever seen, fast computers and at that time many English speaking immigration people helping arrivees to get their arrival documents ready.

On this specific day there were more than usual incoming flights and progress through passport check was a little slower than usual but it was also moving quite well.

An american woman just in front of me grabbed the arm of a Chinese immigration official as he was walking along the line and instructing his staff to take families with children to a separate set of passport booths.

The yank woman grabbed his arm and spun him around, then she yelled in his face 'I'm an American citizen I don't have to put up with this' . The officer was very calm, he quickly spoke on his walkie/talkie and two soldiers appeared very quickly. They immediately picked up the woman, one soldier under each arm and her bags, and with her legs dangling they 'escorted' her to the end of the line. Not a word spoken.

Wow what a small world. I was in Hong Kong airport yesterday and a old British guy with bad teeth said almost the same thing but he yelled out I speak the Queens English and I demand tiffins on my flight. They took him away too.

[alex8912]

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Now they think they own the world and can get away with all their BS behaviour

Makes a change from the Americans doing this

I have two opposite examples:

1. The hotel I use often when I travel to Bkk from the North - They have stopped accepting Chinese tour groups. Why: no manners whatever when they are checking in en masse, theft of the towels etc., from guest rooms, at the buffet breakfast they either take plastic bags to the food warmers and empty them or take the food warmers to their table, plus steal plates, cutlery etc., And throw lots of food scraps on the floor.

2. Several years back I arrived at the new Shanghai International airport. There are many double sided passport desks, probably the largest set of such desks I've ever seen, fast computers and at that time many English speaking immigration people helping arrivees to get their arrival documents ready.

On this specific day there were more than usual incoming flights and progress through passport check was a little slower than usual but it was also moving quite well.

An american woman just in front of me grabbed the arm of a Chinese immigration official as he was walking along the line and instructing his staff to take families with children to a separate set of passport booths.

The yank woman grabbed his arm and spun him around, then she yelled in his face 'I'm an American citizen I don't have to put up with this' . The officer was very calm, he quickly spoke on his walkie/talkie and two soldiers appeared very quickly. They immediately picked up the woman, one soldier under each arm and her bags, and with her legs dangling they 'escorted' her to the end of the line. Not a word spoken.

Wow what a small world. I was in Hong Kong airport yesterday and a old British guy with bad teeth said almost the same thing but he yelled out I speak the Queens English and I demand tiffins on my flight. They took him away too.

[Thian]

Last week at Don Muang it was a madhouse with chinese groups running around like crazy kids.

After some minutes i decided to just walk without avoiding them and within 5 seconds a chinese lady run into my shoulder with her face. It was hard and she almost started crying. I said solly though and walked off. They ask for that.

Later in the queue at the immigration i had an issue with a chinese man trying to push me away so he could jump the queue.

I'm not agressive but sure other westerners will knock some down sooner or later. It's not a matter of if but when.

Edited December 29, 2014 by Thian

[Strangebrew]

It not just an Chinese thing or a Thai thing. filipino's got it to a science. I just smile then when they get to counter the girl tells them to wait as they wave me counter.

[Tomtomtom69]

I lived in China. I am a polite person by nature and ended up never getting any money at the bank, tickets at the station, seats in a restaurant. I watched this for 2 months and then I started putting my training as a second row to use.

As an aside: I am always surprised at how well most Thais queue, much better than here in Cambodia and let me not even get started on Vietnam......

I once had to queue with a bunch of Vietnamese in a large visa collection queue in Laos (I was told they were Vietnamese by a stressed out official). It was the closest I've ever come to punching a woman. She was pushing me in my back. I'm not talking about a little lean or touch on the back. I'm talking about a full push with the shoulders with her legs at about 50 degrees to the floor. I turned around and gave her a look like ''What the <deleted>are you doing?' and she just grumbled something and gave me a funny look. And then tried to push me again. All the while a mob of them were pushing their way to the front of the queue with people spilling left and right. It had to be seen to be believed.

The poor Imm dudes were doing their best and losing their sh*t with them. They kept trying to put them in lines (like a kindergarten teacher would do) but as soon as the Imm officer turned around, the pushing started again. The window (for visas) finally opened and there was a massive free for all. It was a bit of a blur, but I was shoved forwards and to the side. I looked at the collection window and there was a scene a but like off 'Dawn of the Dead' with all the hands in the air and pressed against the counter. They were shoving whoever had got to the front at the window out of the way until they got to the window and then everyone would try and shove them out of the way. This cycle was repeated. No fights broke out (although a few westerners had to restrain themselves). It was like all that shoving was a perfectly normal thing to do.

If the Chinese are worse than that I'm avoiding the place for a while.

Actually I've seen some of the antics of Vietnamese at border crossings, mostly they are bus passengers that come all at once and these days they no longer need visas for Laos so perhaps you are describing an incident from more than 10 years ago when visas were still required. Anyway, my impression of Vietnam is that most urban Vietnamese are fairly orderly and polite, but the poorer rural folks who've never seen a car before in their lives until they left their villages (yes, that's right, there are so few cars in most parts of Vietnam many people have never seen a car before) and who otherwise don't know much about civilization are a world upon themselves. However, as they don't travel much we have very little exposure to their antics.

Instead, it's the Chinese who have unfortunately taken some of their bad habits out into other parts of the world, but again, fortunately it only applies to a small number of mainly rural folk, or those who come from smaller 2nd and 3rd tier cities and have never been anywhere before. China is a vast country and it's very difficult to generalize about the country too much. There are also a great many very pleasant, downright great people in China. In fact, I have found China is a land of great contrasts - some of the nicest people you'll ever meet are there, while at the same time seeing some crazy self-righteous person having a tantrum due to a perceived injustice (such as not being allowed on a flight due to arriving late) or crowds of people pushing as you get on a bus, train or wherever is equally common.

[johnh869]

The Chinese will eventually catch on. Koreans used to do this a lot when outside of their country. So, too, will the Chinese eventually learn to be a little more cosmopolitan and polite. Until then, enjoy the shows they put on.

Don't hold your breath...

They've been obnoxious since the Middle Kingdom when King Wu of Zhou proclaimed himself the Son of Heaven and told his subjects that China was the centre of the earth and that they were living in the Celestial Empire.

Amen Brother! The Chinese will never change their asinine ways!!!!

[Tomtomtom69]

555 excellent - that reminds me why I never use DM

Nothing whatsoever to do with DM.

Everything to do with Chinese behaviour.

Think before you post.

totally agree, happens everywhere. Unusual for Thai's to stand up to these rude people.

Well it's traditionally been unusual for Thais to make a scene in public unless they've been attacked or offended, but thankfully they are no longer acting like door mats, nor should they be. No normal person should accept queue jumping. Not even the Chinese themselves accept queue jumping at airports in their own country either, so it should be of little surprise when Thais here are upset about it, when it happens here.

[Tomtomtom69]

I lived in China for six years and they actually have security guards in front of queues at airports, train stations, bus stations etc. to prevent this behavior and let me tell you that they are brutal with their own people. These fools are probably daughters of super rich who think they can get away with this behavior. A good slap up side the face is what they needed not the polite behavior of a Thai.

No they are not. They are ordinary, unknown everyday people. If they were rich and well connected, for starters they wouldn't be flying Air Asia but rather be sitting in the business or first class sections (if available) of THAI Airways, Air China, Cathay Pacific, China Southern or other premium/legacy carriers. It has nothing to do with being rich and in fact I can confirm that the richer Chinese are actually more likely to be well travelled and well behaved than the poorer, rural folk.

Basically these people just have a selfish "me, me" attitude and as you say, a good slap in the face wakes them up. I think this incident was a wake up call for them.

[Tomtomtom69]

I had a bunch of Chinese try to cut in front of me years ago, waiting in the immigration queue at the airport. I believe a tour guide or friend had been standing in front of me and when his group arrived he had them all join him in front of me. I explained that wasn't on and he sort of hissed at me or grunted something and refused to move. It didn't become physical but I was quite ready to smack him in the face if it had come to it, but decided that better than getting into a fight while trying to enter the country, was just to walk in front of the group and give him a look that told him pretty clearly that I wouldn't be putting up with any more nonsense. And that worked,

Another interesting story, this time involving a Vietnamese hi-so girl flying on Jetstar.

If I remember correctly this incident happened on Oct 28, 2012 while flying out of Ho Chi Minh's Tan Son Nhat airport.

I was heading back to Bangkok on THAI, the girl in question, probably aged somewhere between 25 and 30 was heading to Singapore on Jetstar.

As I looked over to the queue next to me, this girl starts pushing in line, infuriating all the Vietnamese and other foreign passengers. A younger English speaking Vietnamese man, a Hong Kong man and an Australian with his Vietnamese? girlfriend or wife all told her that her behaviour was not on.

The Australian man took it to the highest level and told her off - "Fxxxxing bimbo flying on Jetstar". All the girl could do was hiss while looking back at him and everyone else, her arrogance was astounding. The immigration lady processed her passport without sending her back to the back of the line, but did give her a bit of a grilling. I'm not sure if she was late for her flight or not, but she could have explained her situation first.

Also, the queue wasn't very long either.

[seabass69]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

You haven't seen anything until you've seen "lining up" anywhere in the Middle East. In fact, there are no lines, except at international airports OUTSIDE SAUDI ARABIA.

I don't see farang doing much better lining up at Thai Immigration offices either. That's pretty much pigs at slop time.

...farang being the slops.

[Alwyn]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

and don't even go there with the 7-11 melees!

[Dtaw]

Chinese Mainlanders traveling solo are fine (rare to see though). When they travel in herds they are simply awful.

[Alwyn]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

You haven't seen anything until you've seen "lining up" anywhere in the Middle East. In fact, there are no lines, except at international airports OUTSIDE SAUDI ARABIA.

I don't see farang doing much better lining up at Thai Immigration offices either. That's pretty much pigs at slop time.

It's certainly not pleasant when the Russians arrive at immigration.

[murphya33]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

No. The Chinese and the Indians are the worst, always were.

[surangw]

on the brighter side, they were not spitting or discharging their noses in the floor

[luk AJ]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

you have obviously never been to china and are just looking to do some thai bashing.

queue behaviour in thailand, even at its very worst, has always been light years better than what you see every single day in china.

if you dont know. dont post.

I've been living here for 18 years and I've never encountered any Thais cutting in front of a line, as a matter of fact there were more instances where we insisted to give way for one another. The Chinese however, I've seen them doing this at DM and even in Chiang Mai...lucky they didn't do it to me or I'll show them the line they never want to queue on;)

well.., I have been living in Thailand for 20 years, so it must be in these 2 years that I have seen Thai cutting the line. I agree it is far from the Chinese stampede, but claiming they never do is

[Shaunduhpostman]

Well...Thailand is not a country that respects people in the queue all the time either. I know Chinese people are worse, I have lived there, but if you don't want to make queing serious then this is what you get! People will not respect queuing in your country if you don't!

[Serendipity24]

It not just an Chinese thing or a Thai thing. filipino's got it to a science. I just smile then when they get to counter the girl tells them to wait as they wave me counter.

As a Filipina, I won't be offended by that because I had several experiences when I visited PI and they cut me off the line in the supermarket.Growing up here in Thailand, I never experienced being cut off the line by Thais but Chinese certainly so. The problem w the Chinese is they take it a level too far;they become aggressive or violent and so rude.

[Dannyboy666]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

you have obviously never been to china and are just looking to do some thai bashing.

queue behaviour in thailand, even at its very worst, has always been light years better than what you see every single day in china.

if you dont know. dont post.

I've been living here for 18 years and I've never encountered any Thais cutting in front of a line, as a matter of fact there were more instances where we insisted to give way for one another. The Chinese however, I've seen them doing this at DM and even in Chiang Mai...lucky they didn't do it to me or I'll show them the line they never want to queue on;)

. So you've never walked into a 7/11 or Mc Donald's ever in Thailand orb are you just oblivious , do you carry a white cane, are you being serious, do you get out much, Cmon u must be jesting....

[Dannyboy666]

It not just an Chinese thing or a Thai thing. filipino's got it to a science. I just smile then when they get to counter the girl tells them to wait as they wave me counter.

As a Filipina, I won't be offended by that because I had several experiences when I visited PI and they cut me off the line in the supermarket.Growing up here in Thailand, I never experienced being cut off the line by Thais but Chinese certainly so. The problem w the Chinese is they take it a level too far;they become aggressive or violent and so rude.

. Have you ever been in the express lane at Tesco ???

[Dannyboy666]

Chinese pushing in front of Thais,i thought Thais

were champions at that,I remember bank queues

before they started to use ropes and Q numbers,

it was like a rugby scrum with lots more players.

Regards worgeordie

You haven't seen anything until you've seen "lining up" anywhere in the Middle East. In fact, there are no lines, except at international airports OUTSIDE SAUDI ARABIA.

I don't see farang doing much better lining up at Thai Immigration offices either. That's pretty much pigs at slop time.

It's certainly not pleasant when the Russians arrive at immigration.

. Or anywhere for that Matter...

[Docno]

Cat fights (start at 24 secs):

Edited December 29, 2014 by Docno

[Dannyboy666]

Now they think they own the world and can get away with all their BS behaviour

Makes a change from the Americans doing this

. Another American Bashers coming out of The Woodwork, you have a wide brush, put it away

[Dannyboy666]

My son traveled on Air China to get back to L.A. He is 6' 1", 210 lbs. The Chinese jostled him all around at BKK, then again when they changed planes in Bejing. Finally, on reaching L.A., he taught them that you do not push Americans around in the U.S. They need to be taught manners, unfortunately.

. Avoid Air China at all costs, not to be confused with China Airlines, which I enjoy...

[Thai at Heart]

Actually, I had a classic in SVB while in the duty free. Whilst in the process of paying, some shanghai bound bimbo screaming on her phone, leant straight over me waving a ton of cash and 2 cartons of cigarettes.

As she clambered over me, the shop assistant tried to tell her to wait, my kids were cracking up watching. I just took her passport off the till and dropped it on the floor and tried to scrape together my best mandarin to say "sorry, wait a moment".

I had forgotten this, but if this is what is coming as a regular thing god help us.