buying a bike in the uk and shipping by sea to thailand

ianf · September 28, 2015

I don't understand some of the statments..... Bikes bought in Thailand are more expensive for the same make & model than bought outside.

OK, I will concede that this may be true for some and not all top end stuff.

I have bought 2 bikes and just ordered a 3rd, all 3 have been at the time of purchase cheaper, with the same spec. The first a Miranda Sub 40, 5000 Baht cheaper than in UK, the second, Trek Fuel 5.5, 30,000 Bhat cheaper than the UK and my new one, (on order) a Santa Cruz 5010 CC...... 68,000 Baht cheaper, same model....same spec. That's with the bike on sale in the UK.

I haven't posted this to brag guys, where are you guys buying your bikes in Thailand? Or have I missed the point and your all talking about high end road bikes, fancy makes I've never heard off?

I live in Chiang Mai...... Are they cheaper outside BKK?

Trek, Giant, Merida are all the same or cheaper price than US/Europe.

Cannondale is US MSRP + 10%

Canyon is EUR MSRP + 10%

Specialized on average is 30-40% more expensive depending on model.

Colnago, if it's a master or v1-R approx same price, maybe a little less, but if it's a C60 then almost double the price.

Pinarello about 20-30% more expensive depending on exchange rate.

Those are the ones I have experience with when hunting for a new bike. If I'm looking at a premium brand, I'd probably look to bring it over myself.

Any of the big brands, with the exception of Specialized, I'd buy locally as it is similar price or cheaper. Only go for Specialized if you get a good deal on an end of line model ;-)

The biggest issue here is if you need larger sizes (L/58 or above), you're going to struggle to find something you want in stock and will probably have to special order in (if they are willing to do so), taking 3-6 months for delivery.

Canyon are not available in Thailand. If you see some here they are probably fakes. They only sell directly by mail order.

Secondly, I've seen Look road bikes on sale here for 35K. Impossible. Definitely fake.

So buyer beware.

As posted previously there is no need to spend Pinarello money on a frame. $3000?? They are the same as a Planet X for circa $600!!

Another option is using a Thai Brand: Infinite & NICH are two such brands that spring to mind.

moonoi · September 28, 2015

I don't understand some of the statments..... Bikes bought in Thailand are more expensive for the same make & model than bought outside.
OK, I will concede that this may be true for some and not all top end stuff.

I have bought 2 bikes and just ordered a 3rd, all 3 have been at the time of purchase cheaper, with the same spec. The first a Miranda Sub 40, 5000 Baht cheaper than in UK, the second, Trek Fuel 5.5, 30,000 Bhat cheaper than the UK and my new one, (on order) a Santa Cruz 5010 CC...... 68,000 Baht cheaper, same model....same spec. That's with the bike on sale in the UK.

I haven't posted this to brag guys, where are you guys buying your bikes in Thailand? Or have I missed the point and your all talking about high end road bikes, fancy makes I've never heard off?

I live in Chiang Mai...... Are they cheaper outside BKK?

Trek, Giant, Merida are all the same or cheaper price than US/Europe.

Cannondale is US MSRP + 10%

Canyon is EUR MSRP + 10%

Specialized on average is 30-40% more expensive depending on model.

Colnago, if it's a master or v1-R approx same price, maybe a little less, but if it's a C60 then almost double the price.

Pinarello about 20-30% more expensive depending on exchange rate.

Those are the ones I have experience with when hunting for a new bike. If I'm looking at a premium brand, I'd probably look to bring it over myself.

Any of the big brands, with the exception of Specialized, I'd buy locally as it is similar price or cheaper. Only go for Specialized if you get a good deal on an end of line model ;-)

The biggest issue here is if you need larger sizes (L/58 or above), you're going to struggle to find something you want in stock and will probably have to special order in (if they are willing to do so), taking 3-6 months for delivery.

Canyon are not available in Thailand. If you see some here they are probably fakes. They only sell directly by mail order.

Secondly, I've seen Look road bikes on sale here for 35K. Impossible. Definitely fake.

So buyer beware.

As posted previously there is no need to spend Pinarello money on a frame. $3000?? They are the same as a Planet X for circa $600!!

Another option is using a Thai Brand: Infinite & NICH are two such brands that spring to mind.

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Not true, Canyon are available in Thailand, what they do is order from the website, but get the reduced tax rate on the import, which you as an individual will struggle to get. Warranty is also handle by Canyon.

LOOK is imported by LA Bicycle, and sold through their Culture Cycliste branded shops. Yes if your seeing a complete new bike for 35k, likely it is fake.

NICH is a pile of crap, the worst quality open mold frames available. Even the NICH racing team don't race their own brand bikes, mostly they use Pinarellos.

Infinite are ok, and do their own design, but they don't do larger sizes for us tall/lanky people.

And to claim Pinarello and Planet X are the same frames, means you know nothing at all about the bike industry and how it works.

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ianf · September 28, 2015

I don't understand some of the statments..... Bikes bought in Thailand are more expensive for the same make & model than bought outside.
OK, I will concede that this may be true for some and not all top end stuff.

I have bought 2 bikes and just ordered a 3rd, all 3 have been at the time of purchase cheaper, with the same spec. The first a Miranda Sub 40, 5000 Baht cheaper than in UK, the second, Trek Fuel 5.5, 30,000 Bhat cheaper than the UK and my new one, (on order) a Santa Cruz 5010 CC...... 68,000 Baht cheaper, same model....same spec. That's with the bike on sale in the UK.

I haven't posted this to brag guys, where are you guys buying your bikes in Thailand? Or have I missed the point and your all talking about high end road bikes, fancy makes I've never heard off?

I live in Chiang Mai...... Are they cheaper outside BKK?

Trek, Giant, Merida are all the same or cheaper price than US/Europe.

Cannondale is US MSRP + 10%

Canyon is EUR MSRP + 10%

Specialized on average is 30-40% more expensive depending on model.

Colnago, if it's a master or v1-R approx same price, maybe a little less, but if it's a C60 then almost double the price.

Pinarello about 20-30% more expensive depending on exchange rate.

Those are the ones I have experience with when hunting for a new bike. If I'm looking at a premium brand, I'd probably look to bring it over myself.

Any of the big brands, with the exception of Specialized, I'd buy locally as it is similar price or cheaper. Only go for Specialized if you get a good deal on an end of line model ;-)

The biggest issue here is if you need larger sizes (L/58 or above), you're going to struggle to find something you want in stock and will probably have to special order in (if they are willing to do so), taking 3-6 months for delivery.

Canyon are not available in Thailand. If you see some here they are probably fakes. They only sell directly by mail order.

Secondly, I've seen Look road bikes on sale here for 35K. Impossible. Definitely fake.

So buyer beware.

As posted previously there is no need to spend Pinarello money on a frame. $3000?? They are the same as a Planet X for circa $600!!

Another option is using a Thai Brand: Infinite & NICH are two such brands that spring to mind.

[/quote

Not true, Canyon are available in Thailand, what they do is order from the website, but get the reduced tax rate on the import, which you as an individual will struggle to get. Warranty is also handle by Canyon.

LOOK is imported by LA Bicycle, and sold through their Culture Cycliste branded shops. Yes if your (You are, !) seeing a complete new bike for 35k, likely it is fake.

NICH is a pile of crap, the worst quality open mold frames available. Even the NICH racing team don't race their own brand bikes, mostly they use Pinarellos.

Infinite are ok, and do their own design, but they don't do larger sizes for us tall/lanky people.

And to claim Pinarello and Planet X are the same frames, means you know nothing at all about the bike industry and how it works.

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What? I didn't for one minute say that they were the same frames. You can buy a Louis Vuitton handbag for 80k baht or a perfectly functional good quality one from say 2k. I certainly wouldn't buy a LV neither would I buy a Pinarello. However, Planet X track frames are every bit as functional as the hugely expensive Pinas. And that is the point. If you are in Chiang Mai you can always pop around and you may find some interesting discussion points about the bike industry. I'm very involved lad. Very. I have seen fake Canyons here. NICH take responsibility for their branding. But I'll stick with my Dimar, Condor and Planet X, thanks.

Edited September 28, 2015 by ianf

moonoi · September 28, 2015

I don't understand some of the statments..... Bikes bought in Thailand are more expensive for the same make & model than bought outside.
OK, I will concede that this may be true for some and not all top end stuff.

I have bought 2 bikes and just ordered a 3rd, all 3 have been at the time of purchase cheaper, with the same spec. The first a Miranda Sub 40, 5000 Baht cheaper than in UK, the second, Trek Fuel 5.5, 30,000 Bhat cheaper than the UK and my new one, (on order) a Santa Cruz 5010 CC...... 68,000 Baht cheaper, same model....same spec. That's with the bike on sale in the UK.

I haven't posted this to brag guys, where are you guys buying your bikes in Thailand? Or have I missed the point and your all talking about high end road bikes, fancy makes I've never heard off?

I live in Chiang Mai...... Are they cheaper outside BKK?

Trek, Giant, Merida are all the same or cheaper price than US/Europe.
Cannondale is US MSRP + 10%

Canyon is EUR MSRP + 10%

Specialized on average is 30-40% more expensive depending on model.

Colnago, if it's a master or v1-R approx same price, maybe a little less, but if it's a C60 then almost double the price.

Pinarello about 20-30% more expensive depending on exchange rate.

Those are the ones I have experience with when hunting for a new bike. If I'm looking at a premium brand, I'd probably look to bring it over myself.

Any of the big brands, with the exception of Specialized, I'd buy locally as it is similar price or cheaper. Only go for Specialized if you get a good deal on an end of line model ;-)

The biggest issue here is if you need larger sizes (L/58 or above), you're going to struggle to find something you want in stock and will probably have to special order in (if they are willing to do so), taking 3-6 months for delivery.

Canyon are not available in Thailand. If you see some here they are probably fakes. They only sell directly by mail order.
Secondly, I've seen Look road bikes on sale here for 35K. Impossible. Definitely fake.

So buyer beware.

As posted previously there is no need to spend Pinarello money on a frame. $3000?? They are the same as a Planet X for circa $600!!

Another option is using a Thai Brand: Infinite & NICH are two such brands that spring to mind.

Not true, Canyon are available in Thailand, what they do is order from the website, but get the reduced tax rate on the import, which you as an individual will struggle to get. Warranty is also handle by Canyon.

LOOK is imported by LA Bicycle, and sold through their Culture Cycliste branded shops. Yes if your (You are, !) seeing a complete new bike for 35k, likely it is fake.

NICH is a pile of crap, the worst quality open mold frames available. Even the NICH racing team don't race their own brand bikes, mostly they use Pinarellos.

Infinite are ok, and do their own design, but they don't do larger sizes for us tall/lanky people.

And to claim Pinarello and Planet X are the same frames, means you know nothing at all about the bike industry and how it works.

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What? I didn't for one minute say that they were the same frames. You can buy a Louis Vuitton handbag for 80k baht or a perfectly functional good quality one from say 2k. I certainly wouldn't buy a LV neither would I buy a Pinarello. However, Planet X track frames are every bit as functional as the hugely expensive Pinas. And that is the point. If you are in Chiang Mai you can always pop around and you may find some interesting discussion points about the bike industry. I'm very involved lad. Very. I have seen fake Canyons here. NICH take responsibility for their branding. But I'll stick with my Dimar, Condor and Planet X, thanks.

I'm sorry I misread your post. I realized that I assumed that you were one of the many uninformed people that believe they can get OEM version of frames, when in fact they are very poor copies, that may not even have the correct carbon layup. Planet X is not one of those doing this, but they do buy quality open mold frames from China.

And I'm jealous that you have a Condor :-)

Unfortunately, I'm in Bangkok, otherwise I'd love to pop round and chat.

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Edited September 28, 2015 by moonoi

ianf · September 28, 2015

I don't understand some of the statments..... Bikes bought in Thailand are more expensive for the same make & model than bought outside.
OK, I will concede that this may be true for some and not all top end stuff.

I have bought 2 bikes and just ordered a 3rd, all 3 have been at the time of purchase cheaper, with the same spec. The first a Miranda Sub 40, 5000 Baht cheaper than in UK, the second, Trek Fuel 5.5, 30,000 Bhat cheaper than the UK and my new one, (on order) a Santa Cruz 5010 CC...... 68,000 Baht cheaper, same model....same spec. That's with the bike on sale in the UK.

I haven't posted this to brag guys, where are you guys buying your bikes in Thailand? Or have I missed the point and your all talking about high end road bikes, fancy makes I've never heard off?

I live in Chiang Mai...... Are they cheaper outside BKK?

Trek, Giant, Merida are all the same or cheaper price than US/Europe.
Cannondale is US MSRP + 10%

Canyon is EUR MSRP + 10%

Specialized on average is 30-40% more expensive depending on model.

Colnago, if it's a master or v1-R approx same price, maybe a little less, but if it's a C60 then almost double the price.

Pinarello about 20-30% more expensive depending on exchange rate.

Those are the ones I have experience with when hunting for a new bike. If I'm looking at a premium brand, I'd probably look to bring it over myself.

Any of the big brands, with the exception of Specialized, I'd buy locally as it is similar price or cheaper. Only go for Specialized if you get a good deal on an end of line model ;-)

The biggest issue here is if you need larger sizes (L/58 or above), you're going to struggle to find something you want in stock and will probably have to special order in (if they are willing to do so), taking 3-6 months for delivery.

Canyon are not available in Thailand. If you see some here they are probably fakes. They only sell directly by mail order.
Secondly, I've seen Look road bikes on sale here for 35K. Impossible. Definitely fake.

So buyer beware.

As posted previously there is no need to spend Pinarello money on a frame. $3000?? They are the same as a Planet X for circa $600!!

Another option is using a Thai Brand: Infinite & NICH are two such brands that spring to mind.

Not true, Canyon are available in Thailand, what they do is order from the website, but get the reduced tax rate on the import, which you as an individual will struggle to get. Warranty is also handle by Canyon.
LOOK is imported by LA Bicycle, and sold through their Culture Cycliste branded shops. Yes if your (You are, !) seeing a complete new bike for 35k, likely it is fake.

NICH is a pile of crap, the worst quality open mold frames available. Even the NICH racing team don't race their own brand bikes, mostly they use Pinarellos.

Infinite are ok, and do their own design, but they don't do larger sizes for us tall/lanky people.

And to claim Pinarello and Planet X are the same frames, means you know nothing at all about the bike industry and how it works.

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What? I didn't for one minute say that they were the same frames. You can buy a Louis Vuitton handbag for 80k baht or a perfectly functional good quality one from say 2k. I certainly wouldn't buy a LV neither would I buy a Pinarello. However, Planet X track frames are every bit as functional as the hugely expensive Pinas. And that is the point. If you are in Chiang Mai you can always pop around and you may find some interesting discussion points about the bike industry. I'm very involved lad. Very. I have seen fake Canyons here. NICH take responsibility for their branding. But I'll stick with my Dimar, Condor and Planet X, thanks.

I'm sorry I misread your post. I realized that I assumed that you were one of the many uninformed people that believe they can get OEM version of frames, when in fact they are very poor copies, that may not even have the correct carbon layup. Planet X is not one of those doing this, but they do buy quality open mold frames from China.

And I'm jealous that you have a Condor :-)

Unfortunately, I'm in Bangkok, otherwise I'd love to pop round and chat.

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Thanks. Appreciated.

In case you come up:

Here I have: (Classics) Colnago Saronni 1983 (Campag Gold)

Jan Janssen all Campag; Cinelli Classic; Condor 1983 (Shim Dura Ace);

Dave Yates classic for the Mrs

(Current)

Orbea MTB

Dave Lloyd steel tt bike

Dimar Road Campag, Condor Campag Steel Road; Condor Carbon Campag; Planet X Campag carbon

The Mrs has a Condor Campag road bike

Track bikes for the project:

2 x Condor (steel + Alu)

1 x Dolan

1 x BT

5 x Planet X

1 x Harry Quinn classic steel

1 x Fuji

1 x Giant

1 x Principia

1 x Dave Lloyd

It's a big fleet but the classics are all for sale.

parafareno · September 29, 2015

I think in my country in Europe the Giant is the cheapest I have ever seen.

I can get new 2015 trance x2 for 1750 eur, and x3 for 1150 eur.

In Thailand it costs way over 2000 eur....so does it UK.....

lol

Do you guy use special bags to transport it? Or just put it in a box?

moonoi · September 29, 2015

I think in my country in Europe the Giant is the cheapest I have ever seen.

I can get new 2015 trance x2 for 1750 eur, and x3 for 1150 eur.

In Thailand it costs way over 2000 eur....so does it UK.....

lol

Do you guy use special bags to transport it? Or just put it in a box?

Is that the Thai list price though? Walk into any Giant dealer and you can get at least 15-20% discount on the list price. Sometimes more, depending on the model, and how much the shop likes you ;-)

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parafareno · September 29, 2015

For example

http://www.worldbike.co.th/index.php/bike/giant2014/aa2/349-2014-trance-275-3

x3 2014 !!! model cost 64600 BHT, that is 1577 eur

in my countr I get x3 version for 1150 eur, so that is more than 20 %

thailand sucks for buying stuff, that is not made there....

parafareno · September 29, 2015

LOL

http://www.worldbike.co.th/index.php/bikes/giant2016/giant-2016/300-giant-off-road-2016/1330-2016-trance-275-3

2016 model giant trance 3

1812 EUR!!!!!!!!!!

SOmebody needs lobotomy, and I am talking about this freaking shop!!!

THey just leech from people

moonoi · September 29, 2015

LOL

http://www.worldbike.co.th/index.php/bikes/giant2016/giant-2016/300-giant-off-road-2016/1330-2016-trance-275-3

2016 model giant trance 3

1812 EUR!!!!!!!!!!

SOmebody needs lobotomy, and I am talking about this freaking shop!!!

THey just leech from people

That is the Giant importer and distributor, and the list price too.

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bobfish · September 29, 2015

Siam Bike Tours in Phuket are a Canyon Partner. You can rent but Road only [and I don't think you can Demo for free.] Still have to buy factory direct.

[i've got a MTB Strive CF 8.0 R, but had it delivered outside of Thailand. Buying experience no real drama, about 6wks waiting time. I had to swap out the grips and seat for items more kindly to my hands and butt and convert to tubeless. Swapped the brake levers/seat remote L-R myself. These personal preferences may have been a bit of cost/time saving at a LBS, but the quality for price is still fairly strong.]

parafareno · October 1, 2015

I have an option to buy this bike

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/mountain/2272/32145/

it has few scratches it is giant x1 2009

he wants 600 eur, the new was I think over 3000 eur

What do you think?

el jefe · October 2, 2015

I have an option to buy this bike

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/mountain/2272/32145/

it has few scratches it is giant x1 2009

he wants 600 eur, the new was I think over 3000 eur

What do you think?

If you don't take it, I will! I ride a Medium sized frame.

If it's just a "few scratches", then it's a great deal.

parafareno · October 6, 2015

This is the bike

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wdcllpw0b5yhxyd/AACIyRt8B9U2WY-nwqmeqbZGa?dl=0

what do you think guys? Is it worth 500 eur? It is 2009 Giant Trance X1

moonoi · October 6, 2015

This is the bike

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wdcllpw0b5yhxyd/AACIyRt8B9U2WY-nwqmeqbZGa?dl=0

what do you think guys? Is it worth 500 eur? It is 2009 Giant Trance X1

Looks ok, has the shock and forks ever been serviced? That would be my main concern, as those parts are fairly expensive to replace. Might be worth giving them an overhaul if you decide to go for it.

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