Lite Beer Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Two ways to revoke Thaksin's royal decorations: WissanuTHE SUNDAY NATION BANGKOK: -- THERE are two ways to revoke royal decorations given to fugitive former premier Thaksin Shinawatra, and one way is through royal approval as recommended by Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha, Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu KreaNgam said yesterday.Wissanu said the national police could recommend revoking some of retired Pol Lt-Colonel Thaksin's royal decorations to the secretary of the Cabinet and Prime Minister Prayut could lodge a proposal with His Majesty the King for approval.The other method, said Wissanu, the legal expert of the current administration, was for the PM's Office Ministry to initiate the process, as some of the royal decorations received by Thaksin had nothing to do with his service in the police, because he only served briefly as an officer.Some royal decorations were bestowed on Thaksin by His Majesty the King when Thaksin was prime minister and the government could not seek their revocation because they were given to him by His Majesty without the government making requests.Wissanu cited as an example a decoration from The Most Illustrious Order of Chula Chom Klao, known as Tutiya Chula Chom Klao Viset."Those who did not ask [for Thaksin] to be granted royal decorations cannot make a request for its revocation. This would be difficult," Wissanu said.The deputy premier said the process could go in tandem with the national police's move to revoke Thaksin's police rank.National police chief General Somyot Poompanmuang said on Friday that he was keen to have Thaksin's rank revoked during his term. He is due to retire on September 30.Wissanu said the national police were not barred by the Police Act from revoking the rank of any former police officer. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Two-ways-to-revoke-Thaksins-royal-decorations-Wiss-30266662.html -- The Nation 2015-08-15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Oh gaaawd the other day it was all wrapped barring Royal approval. Now there is 2 ways to strip him. Maybe word has slipped that Royal approval would not be granted,which would leave a lot of people with egg on their face none of whom would be Thaksin. My advice would be hurry up and strip the bloody rank or shut the <deleted> up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Epic fail if this one doesn't go through Prayut and the clan will look like right plonkers after making all this noise and possibly not coming through with the goods. 555 comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Article 44 should be invoked...problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranO Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't believe article 44 can be used in this case as it involves his majesty and overturning a decree from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) "...........his service in the police, because he only served briefly as an officer." Yet managed to obtain the rank of Lt-Colonel AND 2 higher degree from US universities. His most stunning success though was marrying the bosses daughter. I'm not sure what the decoration for that looks like. Edited August 16, 2015 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thaksin obsession again? but, of course, it's all obfuscation and the public (some) and TVF posters (a few) gobble it up as if it were of merit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick167 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 How about focusing on : Two ways to improve the thai economy instead on focusing on garbage issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loptr Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 The longer these numpties keep Thaksin in the news, the longer his image will be in the memories of the people... Let it go, most people have already forgotten... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow64 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 More smoke and mirrors. Government is doing an excellent job. Sent from my c64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 " ... that he was keen to have Thaksin's rank revoked during his term" Sounds strange Why does he need so much time? Couldn't it be done in less than 2 days? Just make a document within a few hours, sign it publish it - done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 As Nike says "just do it" regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 More smoke and mirrors. Government is doing an excellent job. Sent from my c64 Best joke today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aircut Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 how about spending your office time doing things to improve the county and its people lives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Thaksin obsession again? but, of course, it's all obfuscation and the public (some) and TVF posters (a few) gobble it up as if it were of me no comment Edited August 16, 2015 by ginjag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. My dog could be Prime Minister if it would have the funds for the vote buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thaksin obsession again? but, of course, it's all obfuscation and the public (some) and TVF posters (a few) gobble it up as if it were of merit "Thaksin obsession again?" Are you having a go at posters for daring to speak of Mr T., because the topic is about him. Or are you making a snide jab at the mods for posting a topic about the great man ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. My dog could be Prime Minister if it would have the funds for the vote buying. Yet another one dragging out the "vote buying" b.s., refusing to take note of the face that it has been proven, time and time again, that "vote buying" has absolutely zero influence on the outcome of the elections. Hell, even Korn, one of the few Dems I actually like, stated on television that the Dems spent MORE money than PTP in the last election, and they STILL lost. Try and find another dead horse to beat if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) I don't believe article 44 can be used in this case as it involves his majesty and overturning a decree from him.Anything is possible. Having a coup involves removing his whole government......I would say asking him to remove honors he bestowed on someone is probably akin to lese majeste. Edited August 16, 2015 by Thai at Heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 "...........his service in the police, because he only served briefly as an officer." Yet managed to obtain the rank of Lt-Colonel AND 2 higher degree from US universities. His most stunning success though was marrying the bosses daughter. I'm not sure what the decoration for that looks like. "I'm not sure what the decoration for that looks like." Now you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. My dog could be Prime Minister if it would have the funds for the vote buying. Yet another one dragging out the "vote buying" b.s., refusing to take note of the face that it has been proven, time and time again, that "vote buying" has absolutely zero influence on the outcome of the elections. Hell, even Korn, one of the few Dems I actually like, stated on television that the Dems spent MORE money than PTP in the last election, and they STILL lost. Try and find another dead horse to beat if you can. Interesting, but one thing I don't understand is if vote buying has no influence on the outcome of the elections why are they doing it ? It is just not like a Thai to throw money at something for no gain. If they wanted to give money to the people why not do it legally ? Which brings up another point, vote buying is against the law, no matter who is doing it. So much for free and fair elections. They don't exist in Thailand. Edited August 16, 2015 by mikemac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Is Spielberg consulting on this as it's fast becoming similar to one of his epic multi part series ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spleen Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thaksin obsession again? but, of course, it's all obfuscation and the public (some) and TVF posters (a few) gobble it up as if it were of merit Its partly that I'm shore. But its also some macabre, morbid revenge fantasy. like burning his body when hes dead or cutting off his genitals, humiliation in the extreme is what some of these people are after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls.And the extrajudicial killings of 2500 people within 3 months. Another great achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spleen Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. My dog could be Prime Minister if it would have the funds for the vote buying. Yet another one dragging out the "vote buying" b.s., refusing to take note of the face that it has been proven, time and time again, that "vote buying" has absolutely zero influence on the outcome of the elections. Hell, even Korn, one of the few Dems I actually like, stated on television that the Dems spent MORE money than PTP in the last election, and they STILL lost. Try and find another dead horse to beat if you can. Interesting, but one thing I don't understand is if vote buying has no influence on the outcome of the elections why are they doing it ? It is just not like a Thai to throw money at something for no gain. If they wanted to give money to the people why not do it legally ? Which brings up another point, vote buying is against the law, no matter who is doing it. So much for free and fair elections. They don't exist in Thailand. Vote Buying is not as you would think its not paying money for someone to change who they would vote for. They give money to everyone in certain areas wher there vote is already popular. I was in Malaysia during the 2013 election and the Government (Umno) were just giving people of certain ageegroups money , was like a supporters bonus to keep them loyal because they had given them 500RM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. My dog could be Prime Minister if it would have the funds for the vote buying. Yet another one dragging out the "vote buying" b.s., refusing to take note of the face that it has been proven, time and time again, that "vote buying" has absolutely zero influence on the outcome of the elections. Hell, even Korn, one of the few Dems I actually like, stated on television that the Dems spent MORE money than PTP in the last election, and they STILL lost. Try and find another dead horse to beat if you can. Interesting, but one thing I don't understand is if vote buying has no influence on the outcome of the elections why are they doing it ? It is just not like a Thai to throw money at something for no gain. If they wanted to give money to the people why not do it legally ? Which brings up another point, vote buying is against the law, no matter who is doing it. So much for free and fair elections. They don't exist in Thailand. Vote Buying is not as you would think its not paying money for someone to change who they would vote for. They give money to everyone in certain areas wher there vote is already popular. I was in Malaysia during the 2013 election and the Government (Umno) were just giving people of certain ageegroups money , was like a supporters bonus to keep them loyal because they had given them 500RM No you can't tell the cheerleaders that. Vote buying is the reason The Thaksin's held office it has to be or it means people really voted for them. Congratulations you are the first poster who actually understands the reasoning behind money for voting. Also it could be added that it is no different than the multitude of promises politicians worldwide use to ensure they are elected to office. People vote generally not only for who they like but because they are getting something in return. Unless you go for the team that doesn't need votes because they've got all the guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 One of the other decorations or honour that cannot be removed that they won't acknowledge , was bestowed on Khun Thaksin by the people of Thailand , Former Prime Minister, .shove that up your funk & wagnalls. My dog could be Prime Minister if it would have the funds for the vote buying. Yet another one dragging out the "vote buying" b.s., refusing to take note of the face that it has been proven, time and time again, that "vote buying" has absolutely zero influence on the outcome of the elections. Hell, even Korn, one of the few Dems I actually like, stated on television that the Dems spent MORE money than PTP in the last election, and they STILL lost. Try and find another dead horse to beat if you can. Interesting, but one thing I don't understand is if vote buying has no influence on the outcome of the elections why are they doing it ? It is just not like a Thai to throw money at something for no gain. If they wanted to give money to the people why not do it legally ? Which brings up another point, vote buying is against the law, no matter who is doing it. So much for free and fair elections. They don't exist in Thailand. The report that I read was specific to elections in Thailand in the 2008-2010 time frame. The report said vote buying was found in some areas of Thailand but not all, and that vote buying was done by both sides in contested elections. The report did not offer an opinion as to whether vote buying in those instances in Thailand affected the results. However, in other reports I have read that vote buying to influence large scale elections is ineffective. In countries with election problems, the most common form of corruption is ballot manipulation (e.g. throwing away ballots or stuffing ballot boxes with extra ballots). I have not heard of this kind of problem in major elections in Thailand. As to why vote buying occurs if it is ineffective, I would say that campaign spending in general can be incredibly ineffective, and there is a mountain of evidence to show you cannot often buy your way to an election victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 oh and another thing if I was in Australia and a rep from the liberal government came round my house and gave me 10 or 100 or 1000 dollars to buy my vote I would say yes and vote labor anyway. Your under the assumption that because they received the measly 200 baht that they all did what they said. How would they know? or police it? or get the money back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 To my mind the normal thing to do is to pass it on to his son ?? so the title can be for the benefit of his family. I just want to ask has any of his family NOT been in trouble with the law ???? What a pathetic family---and tied in with the red shirts--and PTP anyone supporting any of these bodies should be ashamed of themselves----but to post in denial is double bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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