hawksway Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Might live to tell the tales if He could avoid cycling in South East Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy50 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Jeez, enough crap about death-wish cycling on this thread already. Do any of you making such negative comments about this fine young man's noble efforts even know what cycle touring is? and that hundreds of cycle tourists pass through Thailand and neighboring countries every week [unscathed]. The stupid irony is that many of you probably ride a motorcycle which is much more dangerous than riding a slow speed pushbike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taony Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I've cycled thousands of kms here over seven years. Its dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Very nobel but we all know this will end in tears. If he's to do this safely he needs a Police or Expat escort throughout the country. He should let Expats living in Thailand know his route and dates and he could be followed through the Provinces. At least he would complete his journey safely. " If he's to do this safely he needs a Police or Expat escort throughout the country." a VIP in Thailand who is also a very keen cyclist (and even recently expressed his concern regarding the safety of cyclists to the PM ) could easily arrange that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. Thats right , good job the roads are as smooth as silk the Thai drivers aware and alert, there is good lane discipline and many cycle lanes, yes very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razer Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Dead Man Peddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Biking on the capital of road deaths. Good luck as its mad max time usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 I think there was some one not long ago doing this type of thing, he got killed In India i think, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. You are joking of course ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) I rode across USA (Trans Am Trail, 4200 miles) this summer and cars were fine. Maybe 3 problems. However, I met 2 guys who were hit by cars and on Facebook read about another 3 crashes involving cars and bikes. Let's say I knew about 20 people riding the trail and 5 get hit!!!! wow..... thailand, i know, has a 10x better chance. Here is the trick, in my opinion (I've ridden about 6,000 miles in Thailand)...........just ride loops on roads you know. definitely stay away from BKK by hundreds of miles. use common sense in every corner. and your odds will go down.....DO NOT RIDE AT NIGHT IN THAILAND. unless, of course, you are on a mountain bike and away from cars.... i like to find 80 mile loops or even just a 2 hour ride that i don't mind doing 3x a week......and if smart start around 7 a.m. and be done by 10. NOTE: i see the drunk driver was out in the morning...so this advice is bad. lol but all it takes is one drunk blind guy......but he could hit you anytime, anywhere.....if you love to ride in thailand, you gotta ride... note: i forgot about those 3 guys killed back in May.........yea, it's dangerous. i couldn't tell a person it's smart to get a bike and ride in thailand. or a motor bike, for that matter.....and i do think group riding is more dangerous. Edited October 2, 2015 by puukao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 What a fine young man. His parents must be very proud (I even feel a little bit of pride just from the fact that he is British - makes a nice change from the usual Brits in Thailand stories). Let's hope that he completes his journey safely and reaches his goal of raising 5.5mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. Thailand and Nanibia share No1 position in the world ranking:"Number of deadly road accidents per capita" - 45/46. I have 3 dead in my family alone,on motorbikes of course,bicycles in Thailand are for farangs and poor locals. Guy who mowed down Chilean aroundtheworld cyclist and his family on Korat highway was punished with 5000B fine. How much will pay the one who will kill you? My wife may give him 230 baht, if he's lucky. Well, let's correct you about a couple of things here: Bicycles are not just for poor locals or farangs. If you look at the Green Cycle Route in Bangkok you'll see many wealthy Thais with OTT bikes costing 250,000 k or more. The Soi Tan Hansa Cycling Club in Chiang Mai attracts as many as 60 people on it's Sunday bike rides and that's without counting those who ride with the Bianchi Club, the various Farang Groups, the Sunday Club and so on. Indeed the recent Bike for Mom event attracted 100,000's + riders. Some of the open races organised by the Thai Cycling Association attract 300-400 people. There are many types of cyclists here in Thailand and the fact that over the past 5 years more than12 high end bike shops have opened in Chiang Mai alone speaks volumes about the growth of our sport.. I agree that many motor cyclists get killed on the road here: the fact that many of them don't wear helmets or pull out of the road without looking is a contributory factor but not the sole reasons. Nanibia is spelt Namibia. Cycling is a growth sport, not only in Thailand, but across the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. You are joking of course ??? Oh My God! Why are you people so anti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. Thank u ianf ; I thought I am alone to cycle more than 10.000 kilometers a year in Thailand ; Last year about 16.000 km , as u did; and this year which is not finished, I'm at nearly 10,000 km; I will cycle all november in Laos , going to Boten, border with China ,and Thailand with a friend; about 2,200 km in the month ... Not more dangerous here than in France or Spain or Germany ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Take pepperspray for dogs who don't like peddlars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Respect to you, young Callum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertthebruce Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. You are joking of course ??? Oh My God! Why are you people so anti? Realistic is the word you are looking for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Rabie shots from all the Soi Dogs that are left to terrorize the streets are just another thing this teen needs to be aware of. Never mind the crazy drivers and scooter riders.... or the potholes.... or the 1 lane being turned into 3.... and the fact that Thailand is ranked 3rd as the country with the most deaths on the road also should be taken into account.... If he survives all that, regardless of what the "seasoned Thai bicyclists" say, he is indeed a champ in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basatop Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) @Ianf I have nothing against CyclingClubs,but statistics are real.They are little bit distorted by 2 facts - in Namibia there are more deaths,because wounded victims,who would be saved in hospitals - they are being finished by wild animals,many accidents happen outside of settlements(hyienas are notorious).; in Thailand it is another thing working in opp.direction:victims who die in hospitals from injuries do not count as road fatalities,so in reality - Thailand is firmly No1! It doesnt mean that you will be killed tomorrow but it means that here-in LOS it is more likely then anywhere else. About locals - I know better myself:they prefer motorbikes then bycycles and they even love cars more then motorbikes; and rich locals are not any better - those with cars I mean: Camry brings more respect then Corolla,but not as much as Benz and so on... About 5000B fine - in Europe they have similar laws,I know the case similar to the one on KoratHighway: granny,granddaddy and grandaughter cycling on seperate cycling path(seperated from highway by strip of bush) had been mowed down by speeding car ,which lost control on curve.all 3 of them dead on spot. there is the video on YT showing reaction of son/father after sentence:poor guy is shown throwing chair on the judge -" 100 hours of comunity service"(this was the punishment for accident perpetrator,not for father/son).It had happened in Nederlands,very civilized country free of nepotism and coruption. You are not safe anywhere. And I am wishing you a lot of good luck/chock dee and...a lot of fresh air. with rgds " How much will pay the one who will kill you? Well, let's correct you about a couple of things here: Bicycles are not just for poor locals or farangs. If you look at the Green Cycle Route in Bangkok you'll see many wealthy Thais with OTT bikes costing 250,000 k or more. The Soi Tan Hansa Cycling Club in Chiang Mai attracts as many as 60 people on it's Sunday bike rides and that's without counting those who ride with the Bianchi Club, the various Farang Groups, the Sunday Club and so on. Indeed the recent Bike for Mom event attracted 100,000's + riders. Some of the open races organised by the Thai Cycling Association attract 300-400 people. There are many types of cyclists here in Thailand and the fact that over the past 5 years more than12 high end bike shops have opened in Chiang Mai alone speaks volumes about the growth of our sport.. I agree that many motor cyclists get killed on the road here: the fact that many of them don't wear helmets or pull out of the road without looking is a contributory factor but not the sole reasons. Nanibia is spelt Namibia. Cycling is a growth sport, not only in Thailand, but across the world." Edited October 2, 2015 by basatop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exsexyman Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 You will get lots of encouragement Callum in your noble cause and one important piece of advice. Stay off Thai roads if you value your life. Thailand eats cyclists. Sadly a lot of nonsense is posted on here about cycling in Thailand being a death wish. Really ridiculous stuff as cycling here is no worse than anywhere else. Sure a couple of people were killed here cycling around the world and then we had three tragic deaths in Chiang Mai. But as a regular cyclist (16,000 km so far this year), a cycling coach and so on, I can assure people that cycling here is yeah OK and don't listen to the people who continue to post ignorant rubbish here. You are joking of course ??? Oh My God! Why are you people so anti? It's not that they are anti. To be honest by the time they have finished typing out their reply, they have probably forgotten which topic they are replying to! That doesn't matter though, it's irrelevant to be honest. Surely you have been reading this forum long enough to work out that no matter the topic, if there is any opportunity to indulge in some moronic Thai bashing, (no matter how totally irrelevant to the topic being discussed), they are lurking! This is their hobby, the driving force that gets them out of bed in the morning! Log in, scan the Thailand News Forum, ( it's always the Thailand News Forum), look for any new thread that will give them a chance to vent their spleen against all things Thai. One can only imagine the sad lives they must lead, that makes them so bitter. Yet despite this, presumably they still choose to live here. Bizarre! Take it for what it is Ian, it is a source of great amusement to many of us, i personally go straight to the Thailand News Forum and choose the topic which i think would be pretty much impossible to indulge in some quality Thai bashing and then click on it. Before i get halfway down page one the first attempt will come in, usually posted at the unearthly hour of about 6-am. Hilarious. And the same posters keep saying the same thing, they just adapt it to suit whichever topic they are replying to. But they are a gift from heaven for many of us on here, it makes us realize how lucky we are not to have suffered some traumatic experience here that could result in us having only a negative viewpoint on all things Thai! There but for the grace - - - - etc etc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I've cycled thousands of kms here over seven years. Its dangerous. My only transportation while attending university in the US was a 10 speed. I was riding about 30 miles a day. It's dangerous. And the only way to make it safer is to realize that you are going to get hurt or killed in a collision with a car or truck. So defensive riding is your mantra. Whenever I was in doubt, I'd brake or I'd take measures to avoid the situation. "That car on the side street might pull out, but I have the right-of-way." SMASH! On the way to the hospital: "God I wish I would have slowed down enough to avoid that freaking car." I've seen this person. At night, hard-core cyclist wearing a black spandex riding suit, headlight mounted on bike but not turned on, riding on a poorly lite road, and T-bones a car turning across his lane. The cyclist simply screamed but never went for his brake. No way the driver could see him. The cyclist plays the victim, but even the police could see what happen when they arrived and were none too sympathetic. Just stupid. Hubris kills. Edited October 3, 2015 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobb Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hope he does make all the way across Thailand safely! The last man trying to do it died by bad Thai driver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangmick Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Very nobel but we all know this will end in tears. If he's to do this safely he needs a Police or Expat escort throughout the country. He should let Expats living in Thailand know his route and dates and he could be followed through the Provinces. At least he would complete his journey safely. Good idea. Unlikely he will pass through Phetchabun, otherwise I could easily spend a day following him in the truck with hazards on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Hope he does make all the way across Thailand safely! The last man trying to do it died by bad Thai driver! Really, breaking news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike324 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I hope he rides safe, 2-3 world cyclers killed last year during their cycling leg in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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