Jonathan Fairfield Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 No Safety Net for Unregulated Ziplines By Teeranai Charuvastra Staff Reporter BANGKOK — Despite their proliferation in recent years, there is little oversight and no regulation of zipline attractions in Chiang Mai province, officials admit, and nearly all of such operations are suspected of encroaching on public land. After a second tourist in three months died Sunday on one of the increasingly popular attractions, Khaosod English found local authorities there lack clear measures regulating the zipline industry, and not one operator contacted could confirm possessing relevant licenses. Among officials who admit to these flaws is Chiang Mai Gov. Pawin Chamniprasart, who announced Wednesday he had called a meeting of zipline operators and related authorities to come up with safety standards for the business. There are currently no specific safety requirements for zipline operations, Pawin said. “Right now, we don’t have a central standard in terms of structural engineering,” he said in regards to their construction. “Therefore, operators must rely on basic engineering standards for the time being.” The statement was echoed by Montri Piyakul, head of Chiang Mai’s tourism and sports department. “There is no central standard for ziplines,” he told reporters Wednesday. Zipline and other jungle-themed adventure activities have grown in popularity, especially among foreign tourists, in recent years. There are now at least 14 zipline stations in Chiang Mai, according to local officials. Read more: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1444990409&typecate=06§ion= -- Khaosod English 2015-10-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 And even if there were they wouldn't be inspected or enforced. TIT "Suspected of encroachment on public land" TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Therefore, operators must rely on basic engineering standards Can anyone see the flaw in that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Despite the inherent difficulties to implementation and oversight, this certainly show a step in the right direction. It will be interesting to see what follows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 T.I.T. a lawless country! I mean. There are laws. But not enforceable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Therefore, operators must rely on basic engineering standards Can anyone see the flaw in that Apart from the fact that they have no engineering standards, period, no it looks fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springheeled jack Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have already spoken about this in my opinion all tourist attractions where there is an element of risk should be licensed and checked on a regular basis . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Thing of Darkness Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Therefore, operators must rely on basic engineering standards Can anyone see the flaw in that They are probably not using any "Standards". More basic laws of physics than "Standards" Edited October 17, 2015 by This Thing of Darkness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Thing of Darkness Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have already spoken about this in my opinion all tourist attractions where there is an element of risk should be licensed and checked on a regular basis . All the money TAT are usually telling us about 100s of Billions of Baht and they cannot use any of that money to make tourist attraction sfe ?.And I mean in all ways, Roads , Pavements that you can walk on withour breaking your ankle. In my opinion a safety life line when "Playing" at height is basic day 1 safety and Risk class lesson, Its a law for workers all over the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 From the report ...... 13 out of the 14 zipline operators in Chiang Mai are illegally using government land and protected forest? Hmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockatoowho Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 In a civilised world run by humans, the illegal operators would be shut down until they passed all and every safety requirement set by the appropriate government department as per legislation. Here, as every where else in Thailand we have a species who are 98% DNA compatible with an intellect far below par. The Junta are doing well with their anti-corruption pledge, but we must be thankful for small mercies, I can still buy an 80 baht lottery ticket even though gambling is illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 From the report ...... 13 out of the 14 zipline operators in Chiang Mai are illegally using government land and protected forest? Hmmmmmmm Meaning that the first was set up at least several years ago, the authorities knowing full well there are no regulations for this activity and there should be, there are obvious safety concerns, and knowing that there are questions marks about who owns the land etc., and they have done nothing. In other words the relevant officials should be charged with dereliction of duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 From the report ...... 13 out of the 14 zipline operators in Chiang Mai are illegally using government land and protected forest? Hmmmmmmm Meaning that the first was set up at least several years ago, the authorities knowing full well there are no regulations for this activity and there should be, there are obvious safety concerns, and knowing that there are questions marks about who owns the land etc., and they have done nothing. In other words the relevant officials should be charged with dereliction of duty. Or more likely taking a cut to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 "up to you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 "we don’t have a central standard in terms of structural engineering,” Now why am I not shocked by this? What does amaze me is that they admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESmith Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Why doesn't the report name the "popular outfit in Mae Kam Phong, an area in Chiang Mai’s Huai Kaew district", whereas skyline & Flying Squirrels get named? Only one operation up at Mae Kamphong, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) Why doesn't the report name the "popular outfit in Mae Kam Phong, an area in Chiang Mais Huai Kaew district", whereas skyline & Flying Squirrels get named? Only one operation up at Mae Kamphong, I believe [/size] [/size] They paid them not to? I've seen posts about that same company disappear from ThaiVisa too. Not to mention, every time an accident happens, at least two (low post count) posters state that the same company never has any problems and does name it! Edited October 17, 2015 by MaeJoMTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 They will probably close them down for the encroachment, and not the death and safety measures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Safety in Thailand is a joke there is none. Just walk past any building site and yes they have the sign "safety is out priority" but that is it. If any site I have worked on was even close to the setup's in Thailand I would have them closed down. Talking needs to stop and action needs to start. Does Thailand have the equivalent of the UK's HSE? If it does it is doing a lousy job. I assume, probably wrong, that zip line facilities require a license. If so why is a safety net not a compulsory part of the requirements for a safety net? IF there is an HSE organisation then they should inspect the facility before a license is issued and make regular checks to ensure standards are being upheld. No they shouldnt advise the operators before that they will be visiting, just turn up and check. Thailand needs to start taking safety seriously but I doubt if it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 T.I.T. a lawless country! I mean. There are laws. But not enforceable? The laws are enforceable but they are not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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