the 2 Burmese convicted of Koh Tao murders - fact thread

[manarak]

I'm very tired of people convinced of their innocence and people convinced of the contrary fling posts at each other, 95% of the time without mentioning any facts.

At times it seems that being convinced of the two Burmese's innocence is more a matter of belief/ideology than a question of evidence and facts.

What I don't understand is people criticizing Thai police and alleging they fabricated evidence, and then jumping to the conclusion that the Burmese are innocent. Certainly, fabricated evidence should foil a court case and get the accused released, but it doesn't mean that the accused aren't guilty.

Anonymous did DDOS and also hack a lot of court-related websites, saying the 2 burmese are innocent. What evidence does Anonymous have of their claim and why didn't they make that evidence avaialable to the Burmese men's defense lawyers?

Or was Anonymous' action in this case based on ideology rather than facts?

All I could read so far were rumor-mongering and polemic articles, but I would like to know facts.

Is there a good summary somewhere of the evidence brought against the two men and of evidence used by their defense ?

What are the established facts, and what are the facts that conflict with the official version ?

If you have something specific and backed by some facts, then post it. But unsubstantiated posts saying evidence was fabricated and witnesses bought, posts complaining about the Thai judicial system or critical about Thai police in general are OFF TOPIC.

[cornishcarlos]

Not sure why you have bothered to start this thread ?

You will get no facts, but it will go off topic very quickly or more likely closed.

But at least you had a little vent, which didn't get lost in the middle of the other threads

[metisdead]

You will just have to follow the Koh Tao topic that is currently running to find your facts,

We do not need another topic on this running and this is now closed.