Ukraine urges the world to remember the Babi Yar massacre

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Ukraine urges the world to remember the Babi Yar massacre

 

 

KIEV: -- Ukraine has hosted memorial services to remember those massacred 75 years ago at the Babi Yar ravine.

 

In the space of two days in September 1941, 33,771 Jews were slaughtered at the site as part of what the Nazis labelled the Final Solution in Europe.

 

That autumn, more than 100,000 Jews, Roma, Soviet prisoners of war and other so-called undesirables were killed at the ravine, which lies on the outskirts of Kyiv.

 

“The tragedy of the Babi Yar is a wake-up for the whole humanity. Any regime, which tramples human rights and freedoms, embodies a threat to the very humanity,” Ukraine’s President, Petro Poroshenko, told international dignitaries, which included the President of Germany, Joachim Gauck.

 

During the Nazi occupation of Kyiv, notices such as this one were published, calling on Jews to gather with money, valuables and warm clothes. Many thought they were being relocated. Instead they became statistics in the biggest massacre carried out by the Nazis and their collaborators in the Soviet Union.

 

 

-- © Copyright Euronews 2016-09-30

[Yoram]

Nothing much change since than, although not on the same scale,

the world still hate Jews, persecute, harass, mock and kill them if

just because they are Jews. this world has learned nothing from

Babi Yar or other places and event in history.

 

 

[Kiwiken]

I take issue with the words the world hates Jews. I have met plenty do not have a problem with anyone. Societies often blame minorities for the ills of their Nations. Hence Persecution. The rise of the Nazi Party in Germany came at the height of an anti Jewish period in Europe. The Nazis were monsters and cold blooded killers. The sad thing is most were well educated. Just shows how thing the veneer of Civilization lies beneath the surface of Humanity. Sadly nothing has changed. Look at the murder of civilians and innocents happening today

[Pakboong]

The Babi Yar massacre was unique in a couple of respects one of which I found odd. The Soviets claimed between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths at the hands of the Nazis. The official figure 33,771 was the Nazi count. Almost never did the allies settle for a smaller number when a much larger count could be considered.

[ourmanflint]

6 hours ago, Yoram said:

Nothing much change since than, although not on the same scale,

the world still hate Jews, persecute, harass, mock and kill them if

just because they are Jews. this world has learned nothing from

Babi Yar or other places and event in history.

 

 

 Absolute b*llocks.

 

The world couldn't really care less if you are Jewish or not. The only people that hate Jews are Arab Muslims, but then it seems they have a very good reason for that.

[Baerboxer]

23 hours ago, Yoram said:

Nothing much change since than, although not on the same scale, the world still hate Jews, persecute, harass, mock and kill them if just because they are Jews. this world has learned nothing from Babi Yar or other places and event in history.

 

 

 

In which countries are Jews currently living where they are subject to persecution, harassment mocking and being murdered?

[thaihome]

5 hours ago, Pakboong said:

The Babi Yar massacre was unique in a couple of respects one of which I found odd. The Soviets claimed between 100,000 and 200,000 deaths at the hands of the Nazis. The official figure 33,771 was the Nazi count. Almost never did the allies settle for a smaller number when a much larger count could be considered.

 

The 33,771 is for the two days. The Nazis continued to use the ravine for further killings for two more years but it is doubtful that the death toll reached 100,000.

 

http://www.sciencespo.fr/mass-violence-war-massacre-resistance/en/document/babi-yar

 

A very good, well researched book on the killings in Eastern Europe during WWII by both Hitler and Stalin (including the 1930's famine) is Bloodlands by Yale historian Timothy D. Snyder published in 2010.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands

https://www.amazon.com/Bloodlands-Europe-Between-Hitler-Stalin/dp/0465031471/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475234660&sr=8-1&keywords=Bloodlands

Bloodlands "is a chilling and instructive story of how 14 million unarmed men, women and children were murdered. The death toll includes two familiar victim groups -5.7 million Jews in the Holocaust and 3.3 million Ukrainians during the 1932-1933 famine engineered by Soviet dictator Josef Stalin -along with lesser-known victims that include three million Soviet prisoners of war who were deliberately starved to death

 

Was a horrible time and place to try and survive that spanned almost an entire generation. Ukraine should be lauded for remembering what happened in this one incident among thousands during that 15 years or so(1930-1945) .

TH

[alofthailand]

23 hours ago, Yoram said:

Nothing much change since than, although not on the same scale, the world still hate Jews, persecute, harass, mock and kill them if just because they are Jews. this world has learned nothing from Babi Yar or other places and event in history.

 

 

No. I think the world hates Muslims more but leaves them alone to persecute and murder each other.

[Scott]

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[Scott]

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[Yahooka]

On 30.9.2016 at 8:25 AM, ourmanflint said:

 Absolute b*llocks.

 

The world couldn't really care less if you are Jewish or not. The only people that hate Jews are Arab Muslims, but then it seems they have a very good reason for that.

Yes and it`s called blind faith in a science fiction book called the Quran !!