Jatuporn says ready for third time in jail

[Alive]

32 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Are you certain about the military?

Or you just assume?

Or forget the stolen rifles?

Or forget the mayhem those innocent citizens were busy creating?

 

Well there were these guys there and I would guess hundreds of other soldiers.

 

 

[TweedleDee]

21 minutes ago, JAG said:

Are you suggesting that the people shot from the Sky train tracks were shot by their own side, using stolen weapons?

 

If you are going to try and rewrite history,  might I suggest that you begin from a vaguely credible starting point!

 

I saw another poster write thusly: "Don't wrestle with pigs/fools, you get dirty and the pig/fool just gets annoyed."

[tbthailand]

5 hours ago, Pimay1 said:

He's always screaming for justice to be done. I hope it is in this case and his ass is locked up for a long time.

Justice? 

 

Only if he is sharing a cell with Prayuth... 

 

dang it, I keep forgetting that Jatuporn never killed anyone, ... my bad... 

Edited October 11, 2016 by tbthailand

[Alive]

2 hours ago, tomross46 said:

You might want to validate your information, I was here then and I saw no one wearing Yellow. Where did you see this?

 

Oh really? Of course no one was wearing yellow. You don't seem to understand what colors mean in Thailand. At least you are honest in that you think the "men in black" actually belong to the "Black shirts" That's fair and objective at least.

[tbthailand]

3 hours ago, tomross46 said:

You might want to validate your information, I was here then and I saw no one wearing Yellow. Where did you see this?

It's just shorthand, ... he means the royalist/military alliance of 1976, ... 

 

If you were here at the time, then you should have understood that... right?

 

[tbthailand]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

But only Jatuporn was ordered by the court to have his bail revoked for his interview and comment on a TV Channel’s news talk programme that were provocative and detrimental to the national security.

 

and who decides what is "provocative and detrimental to the national security." ?

 

I guess we all know, ... 

Edited October 11, 2016 by tbthailand

[Pimay1]

17 minutes ago, tbthailand said:

Justice? 

 

Only if he is sharing a cell with Prayuth... 

 

dang it, I keep forgetting that Jatuporn never killed anyone, ... my bad... 

He may have never personally killed anyone but he has a lot of blood on his hands for the deaths of many people.

[tbthailand]

1 minute ago, Pimay1 said:

He may have never personally killed anyone but he has a lot of blood on his hands for the deaths of many people.

Compared to the general? That is laughable...  You're fantasising.

[Eric Loh]

For those who wanted Jatuporn to go away for long time, they will be disappointed. No wonder he packed light and carry that big smile. Like the Arnold said "I will be back".

 

Thailand criminal law system explained: -

 

The period of detention permitted by law is based on the penalty prescribed for the offence being charged, as follows:

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding 500 Thai baht, or both, the court has the power to grant only one detention period not exceeding seven days.

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment that exceeds six months but is not greater than 10 years, or a fine of more than 500 baht, or both, the court has the power to grant several successive periods of detention not exceeding 12 days each, but the total period shall not exceed 48 days.

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by maximum imprisonment that is 10 years or greater, irrespective of any punishment with or without a fine, the court has the power to grant several successive periods of detention not exceeding 12 days each, but the total period shall not exceed 84 days.

 

 

[Pimay1]

14 minutes ago, tbthailand said:

Compared to the general? That is laughable...  You're fantasising.

This thread is not about the general.

[halloween]

15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

For those who wanted Jatuporn to go away for long time, they will be disappointed. No wonder he packed light and carry that big smile. Like the Arnold said "I will be back".

 

Thailand criminal law system explained: -

 

The period of detention permitted by law is based on the penalty prescribed for the offence being charged, as follows:

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding 500 Thai baht, or both, the court has the power to grant only one detention period not exceeding seven days.

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment that exceeds six months but is not greater than 10 years, or a fine of more than 500 baht, or both, the court has the power to grant several successive periods of detention not exceeding 12 days each, but the total period shall not exceed 48 days.

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by maximum imprisonment that is 10 years or greater, irrespective of any punishment with or without a fine, the court has the power to grant several successive periods of detention not exceeding 12 days each, but the total period shall not exceed 84 days.

 

 

 

AFAIK detention is for investigation while a case is being investigated. Try a different form of incarceration, remand. His case has been investigated and charges laid, remand with bail denied means you stay in jail until your case is heard.

The good news is that time served in remand CAN be used to reduce your sentence if you are found guilty. If innocent, well you get out eventually. Not that there is much chance of Jatuporn being innocent with the mass of evidence available.

Sorry to burst your red bubble.

[Baerboxer]

31 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

For those who wanted Jatuporn to go away for long time, they will be disappointed. No wonder he packed light and carry that big smile. Like the Arnold said "I will be back".

 

Thailand criminal law system explained: -

 

The period of detention permitted by law is based on the penalty prescribed for the offence being charged, as follows:

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment not exceeding six months or a fine not exceeding 500 Thai baht, or both, the court has the power to grant only one detention period not exceeding seven days.

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by imprisonment that exceeds six months but is not greater than 10 years, or a fine of more than 500 baht, or both, the court has the power to grant several successive periods of detention not exceeding 12 days each, but the total period shall not exceed 48 days.

• In the case of a criminal offence punishable by maximum imprisonment that is 10 years or greater, irrespective of any punishment with or without a fine, the court has the power to grant several successive periods of detention not exceeding 12 days each, but the total period shall not exceed 84 days.

 

 

 

Very nice and very irrelevant.

 

Hasn't he been found guilty already but was out on bail pending appeal? He's so many cases hard to keep track.

[Baerboxer]

58 minutes ago, tbthailand said:

Justice? 

 

Only if he is sharing a cell with Prayuth... 

 

dang it, I keep forgetting that Jatuporn never killed anyone, ... my bad... 

 

Are you suggesting that the current PM has? Would you like to share your evidence with us? Or are you just defaming based on make believe?

 

Can't recall the PM appearing in videos inciting people to riot, violence and arson either. Whereas Jatuporn, and his mate Nattawut certainly did.

Edited October 11, 2016 by Baerboxer

[halloween]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Very nice and very irrelevant.

 

Hasn't he been found guilty already but was out on bail pending appeal? He's so many cases hard to keep track.

 

Sorry, but no. He is on bail for terrorism related offences which have yet to be heard, as some of his co-accused were given parliamentary immunity by being appointed PTP party list MPs as a reward for their terrorism. Of course if he is held on remand, the demand now will be for the case to be heard asap. As nice a bit of hypocrisy you will find anywhere.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, JAG said:

Are you suggesting that the people shot from the Sky train tracks were shot by their own side, using stolen weapons?

 

If you are going to try and rewrite history,  might I suggest that you begin from a vaguely credible starting point!

 

Equally wasn't some firing on sky train stations apportioned to the infamous men in black?

 

The Shins have been trying to rewrite history for a long time - without any credible factual basis.

[Baerboxer]

3 minutes ago, halloween said:

 

Sorry, but no. He is on bail for terrorism related offences which have yet to be heard, as some of his co-accused were given parliamentary immunity by being appointed PTP party list MPs as a reward for their terrorism. Of course if he is held on remand, the demand now will be for the case to be heard asap. As nice a bit of hypocrisy you will find anywhere.

 

Ah, I know there was some reason it was held up. The old "make him a party list untouchable MP trick". 

Thanks for the information.

 

Guess they never thought they'd be out of office. 

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, ddavidovsky said:

Future leader.

 

Nope. The Shins rewarded his thuggish loyalty by making him a party list MP. But unlike Nat he wasn't considered for the ministerial route. 

He's a useful "Gauleiter" or "Komissar" for them. But no leadership potential.

[halloween]

6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Nope. The Shins rewarded his thuggish loyalty by making him a party list MP. But unlike Nat he wasn't considered for the ministerial route. 

He's a useful "Gauleiter" or "Komissar" for them. But no leadership potential.

 

Sorry, wrong again. They tried to make him an MP, but he was decided ineligible by the constitution court as he hadn't voted in the election. IIRC because he was in jail at the time. Now if ALL those charged with serious crimes had been refused eligibility, the case would have been settled years ago, but the EC decided their nomination was an attempt to provoke further political violence (not the peace loving red shirts!) and decided not to act, as they did with Thaksin's blatant involvement.

You remember "Thaksin thinks PTP acts" whila as afugitive criminal he was banned from electoral activity

[halloween]

Pity they don't have the US system 3rd strike and you're in (for life). OTOH he might well be.

[Alive]

8 minutes ago, halloween said:

Pity they don't have the US system 3rd strike and you're in (for life). OTOH he might well be.

No they don't but Thailand has a judicial system that does not accept equality under the law. Inequality is legal. But don't worry about your pals in injustice, Hallo as in Thailand there tend to be a lot of people dying while in custody under this glorious regime. I'm sure Jatuporn will fall on his toothbrush or choke on some sticky rice when all the cameras and personnel are off watching Thai soap operas.

[Chris Lawrence]

But it is OK to stop flights into and out of the country?

[tomta]

On another point I think Jatuporn made a nice quip today - he had prepared extra sneakers to take into prison but was not bringing any socks.

 

[2fishin2]

He seems to be the only one with balls large enough to speak up. Thailand needs more people. like him


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[Nickymaster]

 
Are you talking about the trained military snipers and soldiers who murdered nearly 80 protestors down near the central world protest site? Are they going to be arrested or even named or do they get to kill Thai citizens and walk away as is always the case in Thai history?

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. I urge you to read this before posting again.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2011/05/03/descent-chaos/thailands-2010-red-shirt-protests-and-government-crackdown





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[tomta]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Equally wasn't some firing on sky train stations apportioned to the infamous men in black?

 

The Shins have been trying to rewrite history for a long time - without any credible factual basis.

 Yes, apportioned by any, but not by the court who investigated the incident.

 

[Nickymaster]

He seems to be the only one with balls large enough to speak up. Thailand needs more people. like him


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Jatuporn is responsible for a lot of violence and deaths. Why should he speak up? What positive has he ever done for Thailand? He has used the poor as a human shields when he was trying to get his corrupt paymaster, Thaksin, back to Thailand.


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[ableguy]

Thatskins dog, totally irrelevant to any serious decision making.

[ikke]

10 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Please keep him inside ,and throw away the key,so he

can quietly be forgotten about.

regards worgeordie

WHY ?

 

[tbthailand]

8 hours ago, Pimay1 said:

This thread is not about the general.

Do you read the posts that you reply to??? 

[tbthailand]

8 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Are you suggesting that the current PM has? Would you like to share your evidence with us? Or are you just defaming based on make believe?

 

Can't recall the PM appearing in videos inciting people to riot, violence and arson either. Whereas Jatuporn, and his mate Nattawut certainly did.

no, he was only officially in charge of the troops who killed all those Thai civilians... 

 

Seriously, have you got two cells to rub together?