Munotlaw Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Having the needed document to change a tourist visa into a Non-O in Pattaya (income confirmation letter from embassy), but like to have the process done without any headache and avoiding waiting times at immigration, can somebody recommand a reliable visa agent. Munotlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocacoc Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Soi 13, Berliner Bistro. Ask for Mam. She is in this business since decades and have good connections to immigration staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munotlaw Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 Just now, alocacoc said: Soi 13, Berliner Bistro. Ask for Mam. She is in this business since decades and have good connections to immigration staff. Thanks, will speak to her Munotlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Talk to Darren at https://www.keyvisathailand.com/ I know Darren and he gets my Embassy letters for me for my extension every year. He also knows exactly what he's talking about regarding change of visas and extensions based on retirement/marriage etc. His office is directly opposite the Big C side entrance near Pattaya Tai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 How much do these agents charge, assuming the funds are in place. (i.e. based on 800k deposit at time of application) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsaanAndy Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I have used Key Visa before and haven't encountered any problems with their service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 hours ago, tazly said: How much do these agents charge, assuming the funds are in place. (i.e. based on 800k deposit at time of application) I don't think it's always possible to say how much because every case is different. I phoned to ask but It depends on exactly what work is required. I tend to do everything else myself but as a ball park figure, what I can say is that, including the British Embassy, fees Darren charges me 3500 baht for the income letter. That was cheaper and a lot less hassle than going to Bangkok myself to do it. I believe you can apply to the British Embassy by post for the letter which would cut out the hassle but you're then dependent on Thai post so I still use Key Visa because I know they can and do go to the Embassy every week, in person, to collect the letter(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 21 minutes ago, sumrit said: I believe you can apply to the British Embassy by post for the letter which would cut out the hassle but you're then dependent on Thai post so I still use Key Visa because I know they can and do go to the Embassy every week, in person, to collect the letter(s). Are you sure they are not mailing them in for you? The notice on the embassy website clearly states they cannot be done in person. They only accept mailed in applications. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, sumrit said: I don't think it's always possible to say how much because every case is different. I phoned to ask but It depends on exactly what work is required. I tend to do everything else myself but as a ball park figure, what I can say is that, including the British Embassy, fees Darren charges me 3500 baht for the income letter. That was cheaper and a lot less hassle than going to Bangkok myself to do it. I believe you can apply to the British Embassy by post for the letter which would cut out the hassle but you're then dependent on Thai post so I still use Key Visa because I know they can and do go to the Embassy every week, in person, to collect the letter(s). I got mine back from British Consulate within ten days. Bht 2350 incl postage back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munotlaw Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 Swiss embassy 1440 Baht when one is collecting, 1490 Baht when sent by postal service. (2 weeks) Munotlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munotlaw Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) On 3/22/2017 at 0:02 AM, tazly said: How much do these agents charge, assuming the funds are in place. (i.e. based on 800k deposit at time of application) 28 k when you provide the 800,000 or the income letter, 35 k when they provide the financial requirements. This numbers from one of the leading providers in Pattaya are showing that you really should try to apply on your own. If you fail, for whatever reason, then you can hire an agent. Probably the Immigration prefers when an agent is applying. You guess why. Munotlaw Edited March 22, 2017 by Munotlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 hours ago, ubonjoe said: Are you sure they are not mailing them in for you? The notice on the embassy website clearly states they cannot be done in person. They only accept mailed in applications. No, they're not mailing them. I've been doing mine through them for several years and there used to be an option to go to the British Embassy in person and saving all the hassle is why I started using an agent. I think the mailing only must be a relatively new instruction. Key Visa have always taken the paperwork to the Embassy on a Tuesday and collected it on a Friday. They still do, at least they did about six weeks ago because that's when Darren collected mine for me. A friend contacted him to confirm what time he would be back so I could meet him back at his office without too much waiting. Just looked and this is what Key Visa say on their website: "We have been given permission to obtain our clients’ income letters from the British Embassy Bangkok on their behalf without them having to travel a single step" Looking at the British Embassy web site they charge 2300 baht for the letter plus 100 baht for the return postage so, allowing for the cost of sending all the documentation to the Embassy it appears that Key Visa are charging 1000 baht to check/confirm the documentation is correct and getting the income letter for you. For me it's worth it, others will make up their own mind. Remember though, for those not familiar with the system and maybe needing to convert visas and obtain and extension etc. the income letter is only a small part of the service available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, sumrit said: I think the mailing only must be a relatively new instruction. The date of publication for the page about mailing them is "8 April 2014". So not hat recent. See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-obtain-a-pensionincome-letter-for-thai-immigration From the PDF file you can open on that page. Quote Consular Letter Confirming Pension/Income for Retirement Visa – Fee No 2 (i) This service is only available by post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Just now, ubonjoe said: The date of publication for the page about mailing them is "8 April 2014". So not hat recent. See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-obtain-a-pensionincome-letter-for-thai-immigration From the PDF file you can open on that page. I hadn't looked at the implimentation date and agree it's not that recent, but it has been only two letters that were needed since the change and, as I said the agent I have always used can still go to the Embassy in person so I personally have never had a problem. Obviously those applying in person in the past will probably have been alerted to the change up to two years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 if i were to dole out 28 k , i 'd rather go to savannaketh obtaining a non o 90 days visa. thereafter during the last 30 days appying myself for retirement extension. savings 15k. wbr roobaa01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Munotlaw said: 28 k when you provide the 800,000 or the income letter, 35 k when they provide the financial requirements. This numbers from one of the leading providers in Pattaya are showing that you really should try to apply on your own. If you fail, for whatever reason, then you can hire an agent. Probably the Immigration prefers when an agent is applying. You guess why. Munotlaw 28K THB With all the docs etc Chiangmai's own only charge 3500THB 35K THB Without meeting financial requirements? Isn't that a little dodgy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Thailand said: 28K THB With all the docs etc Chiangmai's own only charge 3500THB 35K THB Without meeting financial requirements? Isn't that a little dodgy? 28k seems very expensive....Chiangmai price of 3500 is much more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sumrit Posted March 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/21/2017 at 3:29 PM, Munotlaw said: Having the needed document to change a tourist visa into a Non-O in Pattaya (income confirmation letter from embassy), but like to have the process done without any headache and avoiding waiting times at immigration, can somebody recommand a reliable visa agent. Munotlaw Why are you starting a new thread (sounding like a novice) and asking for a recommendation for a visa agent when (sounding like an expert) you made several comments and actually recommended a Pattaya agent yourself in this thread a few weeks ago? The cynic in me might suggest you are a 'attached' to that particular agent you recommended and are trying to use Thai Visa to promote them, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelJohn Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Do it yourself, save B28k. Even if you pay an agent I think you still have to go to Immigration now? B28k to jump the queue ummmmmmm?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munotlaw Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Not trying to promote any of this agents. Just learned that one of the most recommended Pattaya REAL lawyers will do it for 18k. Still a bit expensive, but more acceptable. Munotlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 3:32 PM, ubonjoe said: The date of publication for the page about mailing them is "8 April 2014". So not hat recent. See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-obtain-a-pensionincome-letter-for-thai-immigration From the PDF file you can open on that page. Interesting? Evidence of your current pension/income which will be returned to you And then: Please note we will use the financial figures provided on this form and will not check or amend any financial amounts. BTW Site Last updated: 2 June 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, Thailand said: BTW Site Last updated: 2 June 2016 Clicking full page history under that date shows this. "2 June 2016 Updated consular fees as of 6 June 2016" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, hyku1147 said: Does the UK Embassy income verification letter need to be 'validated' by another Thai government agency in Bangkok? I've never had to. Have to prove income to the BE to get the letter and that has always been acceptable to Immigration. Must supply the original letter with the embossed stamp on it to Immigration, a copy is not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamember Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 On 3/23/2017 at 8:52 AM, sumrit said: Why are you starting a new thread (sounding like a novice) and asking for a recommendation for a visa agent when (sounding like an expert) you made several comments and actually recommended a Pattaya agent yourself in this thread a few weeks ago? The cynic in me might suggest you are a 'attached' to that particular agent you recommended and are trying to use Thai Visa to promote them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamember Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, notamember said: sorry screwed this post up, not experienced on here. i just wanted to say and not in defense of anyone but the pattaya visa agent Munatlaw referred to previously in another thread. i called them at that time and asked how much it would be if i had all my own money and everything. she told me in no uncertain terms that i should do it myself, that it was easy to do and if necessary she would walk me through it for free but they do not do it for people who can do it themselves and told me that i do not need her or any agent. i thought that was a pretty refreshing attitude for these parts. Edited June 7, 2017 by notamember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 29 minutes ago, hyku1147 said: Does the UK Embassy income verification letter need to be 'validated' by another Thai government agency in Bangkok? If applying for a non immigrant visa (category O) they want the signature on the letter verified at the department of consular affairs in Bangkok. For an extension of stay it is not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumrit Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 4 hours ago, ubonjoe said: If applying for a non immigrant visa (category O) they want the signature on the letter verified at the department of consular affairs in Bangkok. For an extension of stay it is not required. Is that a new requirement Ubonjoe? A UK friend recently arrived on a tourist visa and I helped guid him through a change of visa type to a non O visa and then to an extension based on retirement (all processed at Jomtien). He definitely did not need his British Embassy income letter verified by the department of consular affairs in Bangkok. The embossed British Embassy stamp on the letter was what was needed. I particularly remember because in their confusion while checking all the paperwork for the change of visa status they mistakenly took a copy of the BE letter instead of the original and had to phone us up to ask for the original, saying they must have the one with the embossed stamp. The Embassy income letter was all that was required for his change of visa status but they kept the letter so when he applied for his extension he had to pay for a second letter from the British Embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, sumrit said: Is that a new requirement Ubonjoe? Unless they recently changed their policy it has been their requirement for some time now. Others have had to have it within the last couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 A defamatory post has been removed. From the forum rules. Quote 6) You will not post comments that could be reasonably construed as defamation or libel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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