Ian1980 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 This could be a continue topic of the other one i open already about plan a trip for look after some milk and beef cows, but i would like to open a specific one. There is anyone that knows if in Thailand Simmenthal cattle is ready to sell? Or similar beef cattles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 About 10 years ago the Government Livestock Department DLD, had some Simmenthal bulls ,they were mainly used on Thai dairy cows ,they thinking was the cross breed could be a useful milking cow like they are in Germany and Switzerland ,but it did not work out I come across a few cross breeds and most were not good milkers , below average on milk yield ,and a lot suffered from heat stress ,we had one crossbreed used as suckler cow , poor milk yield ,and suffered from heat stress .After this thay died out ,Thai's never thought of them as a beef breed ,just a dairy breed . The DLD did try a SimBra, a Simmenthal x Brahman, semen ,to be used on Thai native,and Thai crossbreed cattle,trying to up grade the beef quality ,I did see a few of the crossbreeds about , a few nice looking animals too, the DLD did not promote this breed , and they fell by the way side ,a lot in part due to the growing popularity of the Indo- Brazil breed at the time . Finding semen now not easy Pornchie in Ratchaburi, if they are still going ,might have some, or you could try some of the Thai farming magazines , have seen adverts for bull semen in them. Or you could try Charolais, semen available from the DLD , and some Thai farming companies sell Charolais semen ,having reared both Simmenthal, and Charolais cattle in the UK they is not a lot between them . i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig krup Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 "..a lot suffered from heat stress.." In freezing Scotland in the middle of winter cattle can overheat just by being in a tin barn. They kick out a horrific amount of heat, and they don't have that much area for their volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickstart Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Craig krup said: "..a lot suffered from heat stress.." In freezing Scotland in the middle of winter cattle can overheat just by being in a tin barn. They kick out a horrific amount of heat, and they don't have that much area for their volume. I have milked cows in the uk at minus god knows what ,and the milking palor, with all the cows use to be the warmest place on the farm . In Russia 100 plus years ago people lived above the cattle shed ,heat rises ,cattle produce a lot of heat . But in the Tropics were the daily temperature is 30c plus ,cattle still produce a lot of heat ,but with the high temp ,they can not get rid of the heat ,hence the heat stress , cattle chew the cud up to 7 hours a day if they diet is rough bulky forage , like rice straw ,that takes a lot of digesting ,a lot of heat is produced , one of the major causes of heat stress . Look at the local beef cattle thay have long ears , with 2 large blood veins ,close to the surface ,blood flowing though they helps keep the animal cool , European breeds have short ears , that does not help to keep them cool. I know Thai native cattle have short ears , but they have become very well adapted to the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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