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Burnham Refuses to Rule Out Social Care Tax Rise

Andy Burnham said he would not rule out tax rises as he set out plans to overhaul adult social care in England, after years of what he called government inaction.

Speaking as the prime minister, Burnham described it as a “major dereliction of public duty” that successive administrations had failed to address the crisis. He said funding decisions would be “difficult”, but insisted he was determined to “get it right”.

His proposals include creating a new national care service, improving pay and training for care workers, and bringing adult social care into closer alignment with the NHS. Burnham also said a review of social care led by Baroness Casey would be published next summer rather than in 2028.

Funding Approach And Pay Commitments

After his speech, Burnham told reporters that he wanted to pursue reforms using existing budgets before considering new funding through taxes.

He said supporters of the changes should be able to answer whether the government was “doing everything we can do from within what we’ve got” before discussing tax rises. He added that announcements on pay and training for the social care workforce would be “fully funded”.

However, he said the wider programme would still require “difficult decisions”, which he said would be put to the country “at the right time” with the aim of proceeding with public consent.

Burnham said his preferred outcome would be to avoid forcing families to sell their homes to pay for care. He described home sales as an “really awful process”, and said proposals he previously raised when he was health secretary in 2009 were intended to reduce that risk.

He added that under an NHS-style model, he argued, people would contribute a little so that more of what they had “worked for” could be protected.

Baroness Casey Review Moves Earlier

Burnham said Baroness Casey’s review should consider how a national care service could be paid for and should look at ways to build a system that becomes “highly integrated” with the NHS.

The prime minister said he wants to focus “immediately” on the care workforce, pointing to an incoming fair pay agreement due to begin in 2028/29. He described it as a key “building block” of a national care service.

Adult social care provides support to help people live more independently, including assistance at home. Unlike the NHS, it is not free at the point of use. In England and Northern Ireland, people with savings worth more than £23,250 are not entitled to help with care costs from their council, while eligibility rules differ in Wales and Scotland.

Burnham said progress on cross-party solutions had failed repeatedly over decades, describing 22 attempts to make headway in almost 30 years. He said lasting reform would require parties to find “common ground”.

Cross-Party Talks And Funding Red Lines

Burnham held talks with Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey and Conservative shadow health secretary Stuart Andrew, aiming to secure cross-party backing for changes. Tory leader Kemi Badenoch did not attend. The prime minister did not invite Reform UK or the Green Party of England and Wales.

Andrew told BBC Radio 4’s PM programme that it was important for any funding plan to set “red lines”. He said finding money would be difficult but added there was “a significant amount of money in the system” that was not “in the right place”.

Sir Ed said the first “constructive” discussion left him feeling “hopeful” and that more meetings would be needed to build consensus. He said any solution had to place family carers “at its heart”, adding that his own disabled son needs round-the-clock care. He also said people would have to accept changes they may not like in order to agree a deal.

Reform leader Nigel Farage said his party was not invited because the government did not want to hear a “fresh” reforming voice. He said Reform would oppose a “death tax” and argued that “efficiencies” could reduce the cost of social care, while also saying delivery should be handled by local councils rather than being “centralised in Whitehall”.

Green social care spokesperson Ellie Chowns said if Burnham was serious about tackling the crisis differently, he should work with the Greens and other parties.

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Chomper Higgot Star Member

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30 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So you think it's OK to have a general election with one guy as leader, then force an MP to resign in a safe seat, bring in another guy who didn't even stand at that general election, and has totally different policies to the guy who stood as leader (but refuses to say what the policies are until he is PM), let him take the other guys seat as an MP, then force the PM to resign, and install your new guy as PM in his place without even having a leadership contest. 😄

Sounds like something that would happen in a third world banana republic. Oh... wait a minute... 😄

It’s absolutely OK.

The electorate do not elect the PM.

You perhaps ought to read up on how the UK Government works.

Tidal wave Silver Member

Tidal wave

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4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We should have a thread in that.

We could name it Allo Allo nice to see you.....in Dover.

Chomper Higgot Star Member

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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Their savings and inheritance are at risk from mad socialists like Burnham.

He's going to tax the life out of anyone who has worked hard all their life to accumulate even the smallest amount of wealth, and then give it to people who sit at home all day watching Daytime TV and gaming the system. Many of whom are illegal immigrants and fake asylum seekers.

He doesn't have a clue what he's doing. Moreover, he doesn't have a mandate to do any of this.

General Election now. Just as Burnham himself called for when the Tories changed leader.

Once again Jonny, reform of social care is in the 2024 Labour Manifesto, Burnham absolutely has a mandate to reform social care.

Tidal wave Silver Member

Tidal wave

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5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So it’s you who had the forum crystal ball.

A blind man could see it crystal or otherwise.

JonnyF Star Member

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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again Jonny, reform of social care is in the 2024 Labour Manifesto, Burnham absolutely has a mandate to reform social care.

So by definition, he has no mandate to do anything not in that manifesto?

Would you agree?

JonnyF Star Member

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7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s absolutely OK.

The electorate do not elect the PM.

You perhaps ought to read up on how the UK Government works.

It's certainly not OK.

It's not illegal.

But it's illegitimate.

Chomper Higgot Star Member

Chomper Higgot

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24 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So by definition, he has no mandate to do anything not in that manifesto?

Would you agree?

No I do not agree.

He has mandate to govern and deal with emerging issues.

If this were not the case it would be necessary to call an election every time an issue arose that is not included in the manifesto.

Non manifesto issues are subject to parliamentary scrutiny in both houses, manifesto promises are, by convention, passed unopposed by the House of Lords.

Refer ‘Salisbury Convention’ when you read up on how the UK Government works.

JonnyF Star Member

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3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No I do not agree.

So why even mention it?

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again Jonny, reform of social care is in the 2024 Labour Manifesto, Burnham absolutely has a mandate to reform social care.

Seems you're grasping at straws due to the obvious illegitimacy of Burnham's position. 😄

Chomper Higgot Star Member

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18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So why even mention it?

Seems you're grasping at straws due to the obvious illegitimacy of Burnham's position. 😄

Are you having short term memory problems Jonny?

3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

He doesn't have a clue what he's doing. Moreover, he doesn't have a mandate to do any of this.

And very specifically:

55 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So by definition, he has no mandate to do anything not in that manifesto?

Would you agree?

Chomper Higgot Star Member

Chomper Higgot

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52 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

It's certainly not OK.

It's not illegal.

But it's illegitimate.

It’s both legal and legitimate.

HK MacPhooey Advanced Member

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7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You seem to have missed Burnham has not presented a social care program, it is therefore not yet a thing and so not unfunded.

His statement that he will not rule out tax increases to pay for social care is an indication that he does not intend the policy to be unfunded.

Burnham has correctly identified that social care needs urgent reform, he’s seeking cross party consensus on how to fix this urgent problem.

And incase it hasn’t dawned on you, millions of people are already paying for the failure of social care services.

Social care needs reform, Burnham is onto a winner.

Except Burnham is not seeking consensus from The Reform or Restore Parties on how to fix this urgent problem so it is a 'non starter' and so it should be. The Nation needs 'top down' reform of all government spending on Health and Social Services and further failed Marxist/Socialist policies is the last thing we need.

Chomper Higgot Star Member

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15 minutes ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Except Burnham is not seeking consensus from The Reform or Restore Parties on how to fix this urgent problem so it is a 'non starter' and so it should be. The Nation needs 'top down' reform of all government spending on Health and Social Services and further failed Marxist/Socialist policies is the last thing we need.

Reform have 7 MPs, Restore has 1.

That’s your none starter right there.

Correction Reform have 6 MPs.

Edited by Chomper Higgot

Jeff the Chef Star Member

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21 minutes ago, HK MacPhooey said:

Except Burnham is not seeking consensus from The Reform or Restore Parties on how to fix this urgent problem so it is a 'non starter' and so it should be. The Nation needs 'top down' reform of all government spending on Health and Social Services and further failed Marxist/Socialist policies is the last thing we need.

The Reform 7 MP's and Restore Parties 1 MP in the UK Government, 1.23% of 650 MP's, hardly anything more than a blot on the landscape.

Yes, there does need to be a reform of the Health and Social Services departments after 14 years of Tory mismanagement.

Jeff the Chef Star Member

Jeff the Chef

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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

So you think it's OK to have a general election with one guy as leader, then force an MP to resign in a safe seat, bring in another guy who didn't even stand at that general election, and has totally different policies to the guy who stood as leader (but refuses to say what the policies are until he is PM), let him take the other guys seat as an MP, then force the PM to resign, and install your new guy as PM in his place without even having a leadership contest. 😄

Sounds like something that would happen in a third world banana republic. Oh... wait a minute... 😄

Is there a question in there somewhere?

As Winston Churchill defined democracy as "the worst form of government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

While democracy has flaws, it remains the best option compared to other systems, until the rules are change by a future UK Parliament, suck it up.

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