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Carney Says U.S. Wants to 'Destroy' Canadian Industries

Prime Minister Mark Carney said Canada is still working on options to retaliate against US President Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods, while adding that he is prepared to continue trade talks if Washington changes its stance.

Speaking at a news conference in Quebec on Monday, Carney said he was continuing discussions with US negotiators. He added that there is a mutually beneficial deal possible, but only on terms Canada considers fair.

US Plans more Auto Tariffs From January

The discussions with U.S. negotiators revealed that Trump wants to destroy Canada’s major industries — steel, aluminum and autos — with unfair terms, Carney said.

Carney told reporters that the government is aiming for a settlement that respects Canada’s sovereignty and independence and uses the countries’ complementary strengths rather than breaking up industries for short-term gain.

His remarks came hours after Trump said he would raise tariffs on Canadian-made autos to 50 per cent from 1 January. Trump also said auto parts would face tariffs, reversing the current approach.

At present, the 25 per cent tariff applies only to non-US content within finished vehicles, while auto parts crossing the border remain tariff-free.

The warning came after the Trump administration imposed 50 per cent tariffs on about US$20 billion worth of Canadian exports from Saturday morning. The measures cover products including furniture, plastics, plywood and electrical equipment.

The two sides had held talks aimed at preventing the new levies, but negotiations ended on Friday, with each side blaming the other for the breakdown.

Canada’s Counter-Tariffs and Possible Targets

Carney said his government has pledged to respond with counter-tariffs by 8 September, covering American steel, dairy, appliances, agricultural equipment, electronics and pulp and paper. He said officials are still preparing the detailed list of goods.

He also said the government will provide support for industries affected by the new US duties.

Carney argued that the negotiation approach was unacceptable, saying Canada would not accept terms that treat Canadian industry as subordinate to the US or that create ongoing disadvantages compared with US producers.

While Canada is considering retaliation, Carney said he preferred to try “positive” steps first, including building new coast guard vessels using Canadian steel, which he announced with Quebec’s premier.

He said the government is examining a range of options and did not rule out measures involving critical minerals, energy or other exports to the US.

“The strategic and symbolic scope of reprisals are very important,” Carney said, adding that Canada would seek action “where there’s sensitivity”. He acknowledged that matching the US dollar-for-dollar would be difficult given the size of the American economy, suggesting Canada’s response may need to be more targeted.

Negotiations, Social Media Pressure and Sector Fallout

Carney previously said talks collapsed for several reasons. Negotiators discussed reducing US auto tariffs to 15 per cent, but the US would not extend the relief to medium- to heavy-duty trucks, including vehicles produced at Ford Motor Co.’s plant in suburban Toronto.

He also said the US pushed to limit Canada’s ability to strike trade deals with other countries and made demands relating to cultural and French-language issues that Canada rejected.

While Carney was speaking, Trump again posted on social media, referring to Carney as “governor” and criticising Ontario Premier Doug Ford, warning of consequences for Canada.

The US trade representative, Jamieson Greer, said Canada made late demands that overturned the draft agreement. Greer said the proposal would have cut tariffs on autos, steel, aluminium and lumber and set cooperation on export controls, digital trade and joint tariffs. It would also have started formal talks to renew the Canada-US-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA), which Trump negotiated in his first term but declined to renew this year.

Parts of Canada’s economy have already been hit by losses and layoffs linked to earlier sectoral tariffs, including Ontario auto plants and steel mills. Some smaller manufacturers had been protected earlier because US exemptions applied to goods shipped under CUSMA, but the new 50 per cent levies—ordered under a rarely used 1930 Tariff Act provision—do not follow that framework.

Carney said that if Trump follows through with 50 per cent auto tariffs, the move would disrupt supply chains that have connected the two countries’ auto sectors for decades.

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JonnyF Star Member

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12 minutes ago, candide said:

You are making stuff up again! 😃

There is no defense union project. The projects are about joint weapons development and procurement, based on voluntary participation, and don't include shared command structures or integrated armed forces, There is also no collective defense clause, such as article 5 in NATO.

The closest to a defense union is NATO, not the EU.

I said there is "talk of" a defense union. They're still testing the waters.

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harvardgrad Advanced Member

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2 hours ago, marin said:

A Cal degree will always get you an interview. How you do on the interview is up to you

"always"

I dont have 28 year old daughters but the way you speak indicates you yourself dont know. Those big tech companies are evil BTW. Be careful with that. Google and Microsoft will be dealing with non stop lawsuits until they are bankrupt. A company with a motto "dont be evil" or whatever Google says basically says it all

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CANSIAM Gold Member

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7 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Vast majority of US imported energy - oil, gas, electricity - comes from Canada. Without the latter, the US Eastern Seaboard could go dark. Virtually all of US farmers' potash - a critical agricultural input - comes from Canada. Alaska is supplied by road - American semi-trailers are (so far) allowed to cross into Canada to reach the Alaska Highway. Canada has critical minerals that US doesn't have but needs for its industries. Canada's international boundary in the arctic is massive - meaning Canada controls much of the access there. All these things are vulnerabilities for the US that Canada controls. Canada is about much more than hockey sticks and maple syrup.

Thus Carney's vision is far beyond Trump's administration.........

GammaGlobulin Star Member

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10 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Vast majority of US imported energy - oil, gas, electricity - comes from Canada. Without the latter, the US Eastern Seaboard could go dark. Virtually all of US farmers' potash - a critical agricultural input - comes from Canada. Alaska is supplied by road - American semi-trailers are (so far) allowed to cross into Canada to reach the Alaska Highway. Canada has critical minerals that US doesn't have but needs for its industries. Canada's international boundary in the arctic is massive - meaning Canada controls much of the access there. All these things are vulnerabilities for the US that Canada controls. Canada is about much more than hockey sticks and maple syrup.

Yes.

You are correct.

And, all the more reason for Canada to be absorbed into one glorious union, with the United States.

I think Trump might have been on to something.

candide Star Member

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7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I said there is "talk of" a defense union. They're still testing the waters.

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You obviously have only read the title, not the content of the initiatives displayed. 😀

It's only about non-executive military missions, such as EU training and assistance missions, industrial and procurement policy, etc..

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Eric Loh Star Member

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Canada must have nukes to deter their mad neighbor.

Cameroni Star Member

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25 minutes ago, thaibreaker said:

Are you for real with this, or just trolling?

How do you think the rest of the world would react if USA invaded Canada, taking over with military forces? Another member of NATO?

I'm speechless. You sound more and more like Russia.

Canada has 51 trillion USD, actually a bit more than that in assets. It is very weak, militarily and would be defeated by the US within 48 hours, bar some limited guerilla activity from the remnants of the Candian military that survive the initial invasion.

As regards the rest of the world, European allies like the UK, France, and Germany would face an existential choice. They can freeze US assets, expel US personnel from their military bases and sever intelligence sharing agreements.

Indeed the invasion of Canada would collapse the post-WWII international order, fundamentally realigning global alliances. However, as we saw with Russia, NATO is even reluctant to fight the Russians. It is to be expected that the UK, France and Germany would be even more reluctant to fight the USA.

NATO of course would be destroyed. Does the US really need NATO though? It is really the other states that need the US in NATO, not the other way around. All the UK, France, Japan, Germany etc could do is impose economic sanctions on the US.

However, arguably the 51 trillion USD the US would gain by invading Canada, would cushion the economic impact quite nicely. The US could wipe out all its national debt with Canada's assets.

And there would be the added bonus of seeing Doug Ford in handcuffs.

Cameroni Star Member

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23 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

Canada has critical minerals that US doesn't have

Everything Canada has can be in the control of the US within 48 hours.

Your post merely supports the position that the US should invade Canada and seize its 51 trillion USD in assets.

newbee2022 Star Member

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43 minutes ago, roquefort said:

No EU citizen voted for Von der Leyen or any other member of the EU Commission which runs the show. That's a FACT.

Again or still wrong. It's NOT a direct democracy but representative democracy! Do you know the difference? I doubt it.

thaibreaker Gold Member

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5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Canada has 51 trillion USD, actually a bit more than that in assets. It is very weak, militarily and would be defeated by the US within 48 hours, bar some limited guerilla activity from the remnants of the Candian military that survive the initial invasion.

As regards the rest of the world, European allies like the UK, France, and Germany would face an existential choice. They can freeze US assets, expel US personnel from their military bases and sever intelligence sharing agreements.

Indeed the invasion of Canada would collapse the post-WWII international order, fundamentally realigning global alliances. However, as we saw with Russia, NATO is even reluctant to fight the Russians. It is to be expected that the UK, France and Germany would be even more reluctant to fight the USA.

NATO of course would be destroyed. Does the US really need NATO though? It is really the other states that need the US in NATO, not the other way around. All the UK, France, Japan, Germany etc could do is impose economic sanctions on the US.

However, arguably the 51 trillion USD the US would gain by invading Canada, would cushion the economic impact quite nicely. The US could wipe out all its national debt with Canada's assets.

And there would be the added bonus of seeing Doug Ford in handcuffs.

It does not matter how strong a country or its military is. In 2026, or our age, you just don't go invading other countries in a civilized world, to enrichen yourself.

No wonder you support Russia's invasion and genocide of Ukraine. It's survival of the fittest, right?

You sound like a barbarian. Maybe your time was 100-200 years ago. You would have loved it then. Or even back to the Roman empire.

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BLMFem Star Member

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2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Not yet. But that's the aim of the unelected technocrats running it.

Thank goodness we left.

Don't worry, you'll be back soon enough, but the French will have their way with you first.😁

BLMFem Star Member

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This latest unpopular trade war escalation makes absolutely no sense, especially right before the midterms. But that's what you get when electing Stoopid.

https://archive.ph/ajT5I

"As Mr. Carney noted Saturday, the President has contrived an array of pretexts—from fentanyl trafficking to trade deficits—to bludgeon Canada with tariffs.

Mr. Trump’s complaint about the U.S. trade deficit with Canada is particularly ironic since the latter owes entirely to imports of heavy crude oil that is especially well-suited for U.S. refineries. Exclude Canadian oil, and the U.S. would have a trade surplus."

JonnyF Star Member

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25 minutes ago, candide said:

It's only about non-executive military missions, such as EU training and assistance missions, industrial and procurement policy, etc..

Course it is, Candide. 😄

Course it is.

You sound like the sort of person who helps Nigerian princes get their inheritance. 😄

CANSIAM Gold Member

CANSIAM

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12 minutes ago, thaibreaker said:

It does not matter how strong a country or its military is. In 2026, or our age, you just don't go invading other countries in a civilized world, to enrichen yourself.

No wonder you support Russia's invasion and genocide of Ukraine. It's survival of the fittest, right?

You sound like a barbarian. Maybe your time was 100-200 years ago. You would have loved it then. Or even back to the Roman empire.

I'm sure he's soft and passive away from the keyboard and out the front door.......😉

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JonnyF Star Member

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23 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Don't worry, you'll be back soon enough, but the French will have their way with you first.😁

With Farage as PM, highly doubtful.

Cameroni Star Member

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41 minutes ago, thaibreaker said:

It does not matter how strong a country or its military is. In 2026, or our age, you just don't go invading other countries in a civilized world, to enrichen yourself.

No wonder you support Russia's invasion and genocide of Ukraine. It's survival of the fittest, right?

You sound like a barbarian. Maybe your time was 100-200 years ago. You would have loved it then. Or even back to the Roman empire.

Don't be naive, thaibreaker. How do you think the Canadians got those 33 trillion USD of natural resources? By stealing it from the native Amerindians who lived there when they arrived. Taking it away from the Canadians would just be beautiful justice. Think about it 51 trillion USD in assets, 55 trillion if you include the real estate. That could wipe out the entire debt of the US.

And Canada is very easy to defeat, only 48 hours and it's all over. From the proceeds we could reimburse the native Amerindians for what was stolen from them. The vast expanse of Canda would allow us to give land to Black Americans in reparations for slavery. All moral debt the US has could be wiped out as well. All that's standing in the way of this are a few Canadians. Without much in the way of military.

It would be a windfall for every American. Every American could get 160,000 USD and live debt free.

Canada is no match for Americans. We took their sport, Basketball, and beat them at it. Same with ice hockey. The Canadians lose to us each and every time. They would lose in an invasion again, and we would get 55 trillion USD in natural resources and corporate assets.

It would be crazy not to invade Canada.

johng Star Member

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28 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It would be crazy not to invade Canada.

🤣 good one how about Greenland ,Cuba and Mexico too.

Eric Loh Star Member

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32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Don't be naive, thaibreaker. How do you think the Canadians got those 33 trillion USD of natural resources? By stealing it from the native Amerindians who lived there when they arrived. Taking it away from the Canadians would just be beautiful justice. Think about it 51 trillion USD in assets, 55 trillion if you include the real estate. That could wipe out the entire debt of the US.

And Canada is very easy to defeat, only 48 hours and it's all over. From the proceeds we could reimburse the native Amerindians for what was stolen from them. The vast expanse of Canda would allow us to give land to Black Americans in reparations for slavery. All moral debt the US has could be wiped out as well. All that's standing in the way of this are a few Canadians. Without much in the way of military.

It would be a windfall for every American. Every American could get 160,000 USD and live debt free.

Canada is no match for Americans. We took their sport, Basketball, and beat them at it. Same with ice hockey. The Canadians lose to us each and every time. They would lose in an invasion again, and we would get 55 trillion USD in natural resources and corporate assets.

It would be crazy not to invade Canada.

Time for your medicine to treat your anxiety or nervous tension.

Cameroni Star Member

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21 minutes ago, johng said:

🤣 good one how about Greenland ,Cuba and Mexico too.

Mexico would be next obviously, they have gigantic oil reserves. Also there for the taking.

Cuba has virtually nothing, invading it would be an act of charity, but sure, why not?

candide Star Member

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1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Course it is, Candide. 😄

Course it is.

You sound like the sort of person who helps Nigerian princes get their inheritance. 😄

In other words, you have nothing, as usual! 😀

ronnie50 Platinum Member

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Don't feed the trolls guys..

Lacessit Star Member

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5 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Oh, wait.....

Can this chart be correct?

I can't seem to find Canada.

Where is Canada, anyway?

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Retaliation sounds nice, though.....EHHH?

US net debt is about 100% of GDP. Canada's net debt is 10%. The difference is Canada's sovereign wealth fund.

There's not much point to having a bigger d!ck if it's diseased.

Cameroni Star Member

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1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

US net debt is about 100% of GDP. Canada's net debt is 10%. The difference is Canada's sovereign wealth fund.

However, if the US invaded Canada and seized all of its 51 trillion USD of assets, then the US national debt could be wiped out within 48 hours. Yet another argument to invade Canada as soon as possible.

Lacessit Star Member

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2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Mexico would be next obviously, they have gigantic oil reserves. Also there for the taking.

Cuba has virtually nothing, invading it would be an act of charity, but sure, why not?

Wars are theft writ large. Nice to see your morality on display.

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