Russia Warns UK Over Drones Used in Attacks on Russia

19 hours ago, candide said:

Putin said Ukraine was run by “far-right nationalists and neo-Nazis”. Who are those neo-nazis at the government?

So who are those pesky neo-nazis leading Ukraine?

No one wants to tell me! 😂

On 8/18/2026 at 1:16 PM, Jim Waldron said:

Russia’s outrage over UK drones is textbook hypocrisy.

Moscow cries “terrorism” when British units hit refineries, yet shrugs when Chinese drones that are transhipped through Thailand are funneled to its own war effort against Ukraine.

The double standard is glaring: condemnation when the West arms Kyiv, silence when Beijing’s exports prop up Kremlin strikes.

If escalation is the charge, Russia should first account for its own supply chains and use of North Korean equipment and soldiers before lecturing others. One hopes the UK tells Russia where to stick it's warning.

Hypocrisy or not, it would behoove Britain to pay attention to what Russia is saying. One of these days, Russia will move to defend itself.

3 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Hypocrisy or not, it would behoove Britain to pay attention to what Russia is saying. One of these days, Russia will move to defend itself.

You mean Russia won't attack Ukraine anymore because they have to defend what they took?

Interesting idea...🧐

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4 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

You mean Russia won't attack Ukraine anymore because they have to defend what they took?

Interesting idea...🧐

I don't know what you mean. What I mean is just what I said. Britain should pay attention. One day, the threats may well be more than threats.

18 hours ago, Schoggibueb said:

Russia is the aggressor and attacker. Has ZERO to do with "defending". We all know about these "threats" and "red lines" since 2022 when Ukraine got some helmets and blankets. Then the first tanks were delivered - oh - red line - we will nuke you if you continue. Then some the first planes - the same. etc.pp. The list is long of threats from putins Russia.

Same same - and no difference.

Don't you understand? None of that makes any difference. They are a participant in this war and they no doubt see things from their perspective. And perhaps, one day, one of those "red lines" will be a real red line and the consequences of crossing it will be very real for some Western country. And when that happens, you probably don't want to be anywhere around

18 hours ago, candide said:

Defend itself? 🤣

That's exactly what I mean. Or are those drones flying into Russia imaginary?

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

And perhaps, one day, one of those "red lines" will be a real red line and the consequences of crossing it will be very real for some Western country. And when that happens, you probably don't want to be anywhere around

You just repeat yourself saying: Let's do what the bully says, we have to be scared. The old repeating over and over again since 4 years.

Same same - and still no difference.

21 hours ago, jas007 said:

Britain should pay attention. One day, the threats may well be more than threats.

This, right there, is what Putin wants. To spread fear into all countries who are helping Ukraine.

If you or we fall for that trick, there is nothing stopping Russia to advance further.

We must stand up to the bully, if it's in a schoolyard, or like here, to Putin. And we see it's working. The threat isn't anything else than empty threats.

And, China would never let Russia start a nuclear war.

45 minutes ago, thaibreaker said:

This, right there, is what Putin wants. To spread fear into all countries who are helping Ukraine.

If you or we fall for that trick, there is nothing stopping Russia to advance further.

We must stand up to the bully, if it's in a schoolyard, or like here, to Putin. And we see it's working. The threat isn't anything else than empty threats.

And, China would never let Russia start a nuclear war.

Of course, China doesn't have anything to say about it. Things can happen very quickly.

As for what Putin wants? I think he just wants to secure Russia from external threats. Remember how this thing stated. Ukrainian units would not stop shelling the Russian speaking people in the Donbas. That and continued Western interference in Ukraine's politics. And I'm sure the last thing Putin wants to deal with at this point is the crumbling Western Europe.

Anyway, if think that Russia doesn't have a point beyond which they would retaliate with all the force they have, then you are delusional.

1 hour ago, Schoggibueb said:

You just repeat yourself saying: Let's do what the bully says, we have to be scared. The old repeating over and over again since 4 years.

Same same - and still no difference.

If I continue to repeat myself, it's because I continue to believe I'm right. As for the "bully" nonsense? You need to brush up on the history of the region.

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Of course, China doesn't have anything to say about it. Things can happen very quickly.

As for what Putin wants? I think he just wants to secure Russia from external threats. Remember how this thing stated. Ukrainian units would not stop shelling the Russian speaking people in the Donbas. That and continued Western interference in Ukraine's politics. And I'm sure the last thing Putin wants to deal with at this point is the crumbling Western Europe.

Anyway, if think that Russia doesn't have a point beyond which they would retaliate with all the force they have, then you are delusional.

China absolutely have a say in this. Putin does what Xi advice him to do. Russia is depending heavily on China.

And Xi has made clear he doesn't want a nuclear war, he did so when they last met too. Since then, Putin hasn't used that threat as much as he did before.

Russia and Putin know very well what will happen if a nuclear war is started. Their own country will turn into dust too, there are no winners in a nuclear outburst. Only losers.

And please, stop using words like delusional etc. towards others on this forum. We are better than that. It's only making ourself look bad.

3 hours ago, jas007 said:

That's exactly what I mean. Or are those drones flying into Russia imaginary?

Defend itself after having bombed Ukraine for four years? 🤣🤣🤣

1 hour ago, thaibreaker said:

This, right there, is what Putin wants. To spread fear into all countries who are helping Ukraine.

If you or we fall for that trick, there is nothing stopping Russia to advance further.

We must stand up to the bully, if it's in a schoolyard, or like here, to Putin. And we see it's working. The threat isn't anything else than empty threats.

And, China would never let Russia start a nuclear war.

It seems that Russian propaganda works better than its military! 😀

25 minutes ago, thaibreaker said:

China absolutely have a say in this. Putin does what Xi advice him to do. Russia is depending heavily on China.

And Xi has made clear he doesn't want a nuclear war, he did so when they last met too. Since then, Putin hasn't used that threat as much as he did before.

Russia and Putin know very well what will happen if a nuclear war is started. Their own country will turn into dust too, there are no winners in a nuclear outburst. Only losers.

And please, stop using words like delusional etc. towards others on this forum. We are better than that. It's only making ourself look bad.

What words would you have me use? I thought "delusional" was a polite way to put it.

I can understand that some people simply don't understand the issues. That much is obvious. I also understand that it's not their fault. Propaganda works well.

And yes, there would be no winner to a nuclear war. That's what many people don't understand. The concept of a "limited" nuclear was is a fiction. When the missiles start flying, no one waits around to see what happened during the first exchange. It's use them or lose them.

1 hour ago, thaibreaker said:

We must stand up to the bully, if it's in a schoolyard, or like here, to Putin. And we see it's working. The threat isn't anything else than empty threats.

Here's the problem: Eastern Europe is not a schoolyard, and Putin isn't the only "bully" in the mix. And yes, I have experience in dealing with bullies.

One time, when I was in grade school, we were outside playing baseball. I must have been in the 6th or 7th grade. Anyway, there was a guy named John who was a few years older than me, taller than me, and about 50 pounds heavier than me. An offensive lineman type guy. Anyway, his favorite trick was to punch me in the stomach. He did that all the time. One time he did it when I happened to have a baseball bat in my hand. I lost my temper and clobbered the guy. I could have ruptured some of his internal organs. Anyway, from that day forward, never again did he even think about punching me in the stomach.

On another occasion, another kid, another bully, thought he could start a fight and win. That didn't work out too well for him.

The problem with the war in Ukraine is simple: it isn't a school yard. The consequences of a nuclear war would end civilization as we know it, with hundreds of millions if not billions of people dead. Risking that to stand up to the "bully" is a risk that should not be taken. We have diplomacy and diplomates for that reason.

16 minutes ago, jas007 said:

What words would you have me use? I thought "delusional" was a polite way to put it.

I can understand that some people simply don't understand the issues. That much is obvious. I also understand that it's not their fault. Propaganda works well.

It's the third time in this thread alone, I'm accused of not understanding the war.. Seriously. Are you American too? Maga?

When the fact is that it's others (including you) who has grabbed the whole Russian propaganda, hook, line and sinker, thinking they understand the war better than us Europeans, many living it every day, AND know the Ukrainian history very well.

(You, with the Donbass claim).

I have many friends (and family) in Ukraine, I have family in Russia (I was born there), so please, give others some credit. I get reports every day, from people who actually are living it, and I have done so the last decade, and more.

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1 hour ago, jas007 said:

If I continue to repeat myself, it's because I continue to believe I'm right. As for the "bully" nonsense? You need to brush up on the history of the region.

So now you moved from the bully putin to "history of the region..."

Jeez, such kremlin propaganda already started 4 years ago in Reader comments in reputable newspapers in Europe. In the meanwhile the pro putin writers gave up, as history facts are easy to be found.

So maybe you want to try a different argumentation than the history and what Putin and Alexander Dugin - for sure you know who he is - are trying to sell. Nobody believes this who is just a little informed.

1 hour ago, thaibreaker said:

It's the third time in this thread alone, I'm accused of not understanding the war.. Seriously. Are you American too? Maga?

When the fact is that it's others (including you) who has grabbed the whole Russian propaganda, hook, line and sinker, thinking they understand the war better than us Europeans, many living it every day, AND know the Ukrainian history very well.

(You, with the Donbass claim).

I have many friends (and family) in Ukraine, I have family in Russia (I was born there), so please, give others some credit. I get reports every day, from people who actually are living it, and I have done so the last decade, and more.

I'm American, and I'm hardly MAGA. Trump is one of the nutcases behind all this nonsense. For example, there was a good treaty in place to limit intermediate range nuclear forces and Trump tore it up.

And I don't doubt you have personal experience. My overall view is that there's a lot of blame to go around for this war. Britain, for example, has a longstanding animosity towards Russia from back in the days of the East India Company. "The Great Game." You can look that up. More recently, we have Brzezinski bring the concept into the 20th century. Heartland geopolitics. The problem with that is that the concept no longer comports with reality. We no longer live in a Unipolar world.

The war in Ukraine is a conflict that has been years in the making.

At least this guy got something right once upon a time.