Trump floats US seizure of Iran oil hub Kharg Island

7 minutes ago, TedG said:

Is the 65% in the UK awesome? Trump lives in your head 24/7.

It's the influence of brain rotting American 'culture which is basically rapacious crapatilsm backed by the marketing/advertsing of junk to the masses - now add tech bros infernal dopamine addicted tech features and we have a perfect storm of a tsunami of <deleted>e washing over the world. By giving you the English language we remain uniquley open to this perncious filth. Mainland Europe has maitained a much healthrier culture. You did ask ....

59 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

It's the influence of brain rotting American 'culture which is basically rapacious crapatilsm backed by the marketing/advertsing of junk to the masses - now add tech bros infernal dopamine addicted tech features and we have a perfect storm of a tsunami of <deleted>e washing over the world. By giving you the English language we remain uniquley open to this perncious filth. Mainland Europe has maitained a much healthrier culture. You did ask ....

The influence of American food makes it worse, but genuine British food is also not that dietetic: English breakfast, fish and chips, bangers and mash....

2 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

It's the influence of brain rotting American 'culture which is basically rapacious crapatilsm backed by the marketing/advertsing of junk to the masses - now add tech bros infernal dopamine addicted tech features and we have a perfect storm of a tsunami of <deleted>e washing over the world. By giving you the English language we remain uniquley open to this perncious filth. Mainland Europe has maitained a much healthrier culture. You did ask ....

Oh yeah, nothing is your fault. The people in the UK have no agency. May you have too much in-breading, which explains the bad teeth and the bald heads.

1 hour ago, TedG said:

Oh yeah, nothing is your fault. The people in the UK have no agency. May you have too much in-breading, which explains the bad teeth and the bald heads.

In breading? You mean inbreeding. Only west of the Bann.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/incest-cases-on-rise-in-the-us-dna-testing-family-13751377.html

Research using popular genealogical tests has revealed that the prevalence of incest in America is significantly higher than previously believed, with a rate of one in 7,000. The numbers are shocking since the 1975 estimate was one in a million

Some Americans like to shag their sisters, and its getting more "common".

When it comes to gene pools, the American population is made up of many groups who are mostly descendants of European peoples and quite a narrow banding of African people (West Africa, not East Africa). Each of these groups of emigrants are a subset of the parent population, sometimes concentrated from quite narrow areas, but otherwise, a small gene pool than the parent. Now each of these groups can marry across ethnicities, expanding their gene pools, but how much of that is still going on. The African-American community is still basically African after 250 years. 12% of Americans identy as mixed-race; lets assume this means mixed White-Black (yes, there are mixed Asians, but a much smaller populaton). In the European descendant population, how much mixing occurs? It does occur, but you still have strongly Irish populations, strongly Italian, and Russians, and Polish, and of course, German.

And gene inheritance depends on if you are male or female. Men inherit more from their mother than women. Trumps lineage was 100% German/Central European until his old man mysteriously met a Scottish scrubber at a high society party. So Trmp is a bit more Scottish than German now.

Overall, I suspect the actual gene pool for each group in the US is smaller than the parent populations. Yes, there is a small amount of new DNA brought in when an Irish American marries an Italian American. And in the old countries, there is also a legacy of lots of DNA moving around the continent.

eg. this is me. Typical Anglo-Saxon-Celtic with some viking thrown in. And that DNA has gotten around a bit, but surprisingly, has kept localised, suggesting not that much moving outside the parental country gene pool.

ie. Americans are a little more inbred.

39 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

In breading? You mean inbreeding. Only west of the Bann.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/incest-cases-on-rise-in-the-us-dna-testing-family-13751377.html

Research using popular genealogical tests has revealed that the prevalence of incest in America is significantly higher than previously believed, with a rate of one in 7,000. The numbers are shocking since the 1975 estimate was one in a million

Some Americans like to shag their sisters, and it's getting more "common".

When it comes to gene pools, the American population is made up of many groups who are mostly descendants of European peoples and quite a narrow banding of African people (West Africa, not East Africa). Each of these groups of emigrants are a subset of the parent population, sometimes concentrated from quite narrow areas, but otherwise, a small gene pool than the parent. Now each of these groups can marry across ethnicities, expanding their gene pools, but how much of that is still going on. The African-American community is still basically African after 250 years. 12% of Americans identy as mixed-race; lets assume this means mixed White-Black (yes, there are mixed Asians, but a much smaller populaton). In the European descendant population, how much mixing occurs? It does occur, but you still have strongly Irish populations, strongly Italian, and Russians, and Polish, and of course, German.

And gene inheritance depends on if you are male or female. Men inherit more from their mother than women. Trumps lineage was 100% German/Central European until his old man mysteriously met a Scottish scrubber at a high society party. So Trmp is a bit more Scottish than German now.

Overall, I suspect the actual gene pool for each group in the US is smaller than the parent populations. Yes, there is a small amount of new DNA brought in when an Irish American marries an Italian American. And in the old countries, there is also a legacy of lots of DNA moving around the continent.

eg. this is me. Typical Anglo-Saxon-Celtic with some viking thrown in. And that DNA has gotten around a bit, but surprisingly, has kept localised, suggesting not that much moving outside the parental country gene pool.

ie. Americans are a little more inbred.

You do know the origins of USA are Brits.

51 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

In breading? You mean inbreeding. Only west of the Bann.

https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/incest-cases-on-rise-in-the-us-dna-testing-family-13751377.html

Research using popular genealogical tests has revealed that the prevalence of incest in America is significantly higher than previously believed, with a rate of one in 7,000. The numbers are shocking since the 1975 estimate was one in a million

Some Americans like to shag their sisters, and its getting more "common".

When it comes to gene pools, the American population is made up of many groups who are mostly descendants of European peoples and quite a narrow banding of African people (West Africa, not East Africa). Each of these groups of emigrants are a subset of the parent population, sometimes concentrated from quite narrow areas, but otherwise, a small gene pool than the parent. Now each of these groups can marry across ethnicities, expanding their gene pools, but how much of that is still going on. The African-American community is still basically African after 250 years. 12% of Americans identy as mixed-race; lets assume this means mixed White-Black (yes, there are mixed Asians, but a much smaller populaton). In the European descendant population, how much mixing occurs? It does occur, but you still have strongly Irish populations, strongly Italian, and Russians, and Polish, and of course, German.

And gene inheritance depends on if you are male or female. Men inherit more from their mother than women. Trumps lineage was 100% German/Central European until his old man mysteriously met a Scottish scrubber at a high society party. So Trmp is a bit more Scottish than German now.

Overall, I suspect the actual gene pool for each group in the US is smaller than the parent populations. Yes, there is a small amount of new DNA brought in when an Irish American marries an Italian American. And in the old countries, there is also a legacy of lots of DNA moving around the continent.

eg. this is me. Typical Anglo-Saxon-Celtic with some viking thrown in. And that DNA has gotten around a bit, but surprisingly, has kept localised, suggesting not that much moving outside the parental country gene pool.

ie. Americans are a little more inbred.

BTW..here is a more up to date paper.

Sorry to ruin your day

https://www.sciepublish.com/article/pii/816?utm

14 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

More nonsense. You are just looking for an opportunity to engage in your usual anti Israel politicking. Are you really this ignorant?

The Strait of Hormuz is being managed and handled by the Gulf Arabs. The Gulf arabs neither want, nor need the Israeli navy. It must upset you tremendously that the Arab world did not turn on Israel, and looked the otherway when there were over flights by the IAF. Israel is doing what the Arabs have wanted to do for decades but were blocked from doing so.

Speaking of being ignorant, making stuff up much? What evidence can you offer that "The Strait of Hormuz is being managed and handled by the Gulf Arabs."

I did see this in today's Wall Street Journal

U.A.E. Wants to Force Hormuz Open and Is Willing to Join the Fight

The United Arab Emirates is preparing to help the U.S. and other allies open the Strait of Hormuz by force, Arab officials said, a move that would make it the first Persian Gulf country to become a combatant, after being hit by Iranian attacks.

The U.A.E. is lobbying for a United Nations Security Council resolution that would authorize such action, the officials said. Emirati diplomats have urged the U.S. and military powers in Europe and Asia to form a coalition to open the strait by force, a U.A.E official said, adding that the Iranian regime thinks it is fighting for its existence and is willing to bring the global economy down with it in a chokehold on the strait.

The U.A.E. official said the country was actively reviewing how it could play a military role in securing the strait, including efforts to help clear it of mines and other support services.

The Gulf state has also said the U.S. should occupy islands in the strategic waterway including Abu Musa, which has been held by Iran for a half-century and is claimed by the U.A.E., some of the Arab officials said.

https://archive.ph/kaQBO#selection-951.0-955.215

Is that your idea of handling? Offering to assist the USA and others? It looks more like manipulating the United States not only to open the Strait, but get the UAE back territory they claim belongs to them. Well, if attempting to turn the United States into a catspaw is your idea of "handling", then you've made a great point.

8 hours ago, TedG said:

BTW..here is a more up to date paper.

Sorry to ruin your day

https://www.sciepublish.com/article/pii/816?utm

Literally none of those groups listed on that paper are significant contributors to your personal gene pool, you inbred colonial. We all know rednecks marry their sisters and daughters.

You have not read a single one of those sources. Just furious googling.

19 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

1898 Spanish-American War

Ah, Grenada was a tough war. The enemy wore sports shorts, colourful shirts and sometimes sneakers.

10 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Speaking of being ignorant, making stuff up much? What evidence can you offer that "The Strait of Hormuz is being managed and handled by the Gulf Arabs."

I did see this in today's Wall Street Journal

U.A.E. Wants to Force Hormuz Open and Is Willing to Join the Fight

The United Arab Emirates is preparing to help the U.S. and other allies open the Strait of Hormuz by force, Arab officials said, a move that would make it the first Persian Gulf country to become a combatant, after being hit by Iranian attacks.

The U.A.E. is lobbying for a United Nations Security Council resolution that would authorize such action, the officials said. Emirati diplomats have urged the U.S. and military powers in Europe and Asia to form a coalition to open the strait by force, a U.A.E official said, adding that the Iranian regime thinks it is fighting for its existence and is willing to bring the global economy down with it in a chokehold on the strait.

The U.A.E. official said the country was actively reviewing how it could play a military role in securing the strait, including efforts to help clear it of mines and other support services.

The Gulf state has also said the U.S. should occupy islands in the strategic waterway including Abu Musa, which has been held by Iran for a half-century and is claimed by the U.A.E., some of the Arab officials said.

https://archive.ph/kaQBO#selection-951.0-955.215

Is that your idea of handling? Offering to assist the USA and others? It looks more like manipulating the United States not only to open the Strait, but get the UAE back territory they claim belongs to them. Well, if attempting to turn the United States into a catspaw is your idea of "handling", then you've made a great point.

You have not disproven my statement. On the contrary, in your haste to criticize, you support the statement. The UAE is making its position known, which is that it supports the US intervention. The UAE cannot do it alone and this is why it is asking for help. The Iranians have been bullying the Gulf Arabs for decades.

All you do is copy and paste. There isn't an original thought ever, it's like a chatbot.

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

You have not disproven my statement. On the contrary, in your haste to criticize, you support the statement. The UAE is making its position known, which is that it supports the US intervention. The UAE cannot do it alone and this is why it is asking for help. The Iranians have been bullying the Gulf Arabs for decades.

All you do is copy and paste. There isn't an original thought ever, it's like a chatbot.

How does "making its position known" qualify as "handling the situation". Those are mere words. If the situation was merely a debate, you would have made a good point.

And then there's your absurd belief that opinions and evidence can't coexist. That somehow citing actual evidence makes an argument weaker. Do you understand that your position puts you in opposition to what responsible editorializing does. Do you really prefer opinions either devoid of evidence or actually incorrect over opinions backed by evidence.

As for this:

8 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

All you do is copy and paste. There isn't an original thought ever, it's like a chatbot.

Once again you are demonstrably wrong:

On 3/31/2026 at 11:23 PM, TedG said:

They rolled over Iraq in the first Gulf War.

They bombed everything, killed its leader but didn't win a war.

If US was to launch an invasion of Iran, it will happen this week-end when the market is closed.