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Trump Orders US Carrier Back to Steam Catapults

Donald Trump has ordered the Pentagon to redesign a new US aircraft carrier so it can launch fighter jets using steam catapults rather than electromagnetic systems, a move he has advocated since at least 2017.

Trump signed a national security memorandum on Thursday directing the defence secretary, Pete Hegseth, and the acting secretary of the navy, Hung Cao, to prepare what he called a plan to replace key systems on the USS Doris Miller, a Ford-class carrier.

Memorandum sets a 60-day planning deadline

The memorandum gives the Pentagon leaders 60 days to develop “a plan on the required measures” to swap out the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System and the Advanced Weapons Elevators for “steam and hydraulic systems” for the construction of the USS Doris Miller.

The carrier is already two years behind schedule, according to the information in the report.

Trump has pushed the change for years

Trump has repeatedly criticised the electromagnetic launch system used on the latest US aircraft carriers, arguing that steam is preferable and that digital systems are too complicated.

His decision follows years of public remarks in which he described complaints about “digital” catapults and said he believed they were unnecessarily complex. In 2017, he told Time magazine that he questioned what he described as a “digital catapult system” and said it sounded complicated.

He said in the interview that he was told the Navy intended to stay with the digital approach, and he argued that steam would be better, adding that the digital option was more expensive.

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Picture courtesy of The Hill

A review of Trump’s public comments by the Guardian shows he retold the same anecdote, with variations, every year from 2017 onward.

In 2018, he brought up the issue during a phone call connected to the USS Ronald Reagan while it was docked in Hong Kong. In 2019, he recounted the exchange with a “catapulter” to Republican donors at a fundraiser. In 2020, he incorporated it into campaign speeches during the pandemic. He again referenced it in 2021 at CPAC, in 2022 in a campaign speech in Texas, and in 2023 on the campaign trail in Iowa. He also repeated it shortly before the 2024 election at an event where he spoke to Tucker Carlson.

After returning to office in 2025, Trump raised steam catapults during the swearing-in of Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence and again in remarks to the crew of the USS George Washington, a carrier based in Japan.

Navy and industry warn of cost and integration risks

The Wall Street Journal, which first reported the order, said senior US Navy and industry leaders have resisted the move, citing the “enormous expense” involved in removing the complex system that was built into the design of the latest carriers.

General Atomics, the company that builds the electromagnetic aircraft launch system for the Ford-class ships, said the decision to revert to steam “warrants careful reconsideration”.

The company told the Journal that its work on the new ship is nearly 50% complete and that changing course at this stage would create “significant cost, schedule, and integration risks”.

US senator criticises Trump’s intervention

Senator Mark Kelly, an Arizona Democrat and former astronaut, reacted sharply to the news, writing on social media that he would not suggest engineering changes for a warship, and adding that he believed Trump should “stick to what he knows best – ballrooms, bankruptcy, and bullshit”.

The order comes amid separate reporting on an intensifying mental health crisis onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, where about 5,000 sailors and marines are said to be enduring a record-breaking deployment tied to the war with Iran.

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JAG Ruby Member

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On 8/15/2026 at 12:47 PM, JimGant said:

And the latest change to the second in the Ford class of carriers:

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Is the garish stain down the blunt end of this LGB (large grey boat) from the USN's signature blocked khazi?

Roadsternut Platinum Member

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1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

The other side - China know that already; China commissioned its 80,000-tonne aircraft carrier Fujian in November 2025. Unlike the ski-jump-equipped Liaoning and Shandong, Fujian is fitted with three electromagnetic catapults as will the French on their new carrier.

There is probably more than one way to implement.

Its not so much China (and any potential adversary) copying, its about knowing your operational capabilities and drills. For instance, you will not find actual performance data of CBRN defensive front line kit (time to detect, sensitivity, specificity etc), because to reveal that doesn't enable someone to have better CBRN defensive equipment, but it might provide direction on better offensive systems, or development of drills that subvert CBRN capabilities.

The CdG is very similar to the Queen Elizabeth class carriers, which were originally intended to have CATOBAR, but moved to ramp launch only, because of cost.

The CATOBAR version was supposed to take the F-35C, which turned out to be a donkey of an aircraft. Fortuitously, the Royal Navy opted for the F-35B. The F-35C is a heavy beast. CATOBAR is being fitted to CdG to enable cross-compatibility with USN aircraft. But the F-35C is too heavy for the deck, So what's that leave? The ancient Hornet and some recce aircraft. These vessels are supposed to have a 50 year lifespan. I honestly think within 10 years, the majority of carriers, such as they are, will be deploying drones.

The risk is building large carriers with facilities for aircrews is that they are obsolete, and the future is actually UXV Combatant type vessels.

Edited by Roadsternut

scottiejohn Star Member

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41 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

CATOBAR is being fitted to CdG to enable cross-compatibility with USN aircraft.

CdG was commissioned in 2001 with CATOBR!

Her replacement is planned to EMLS.

The Chinese Fujian already has 3 EMLS, not CATOBR!

"The newest Chinese aircraft carrier has started with “dead load” launch testing for her electromagnetic catapult system, as was confirmed by footage circulating on Chinese and Western social media."

PLA Navy commission Fujian, China’s first carrier with EMALS catapults - Naval Technology

Chinese Carrier Has Started Catapult Testing

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GammaGlobulin Star Member

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On 8/15/2026 at 9:26 AM, spidermike007 said:

Trump is so fabulously dim he probably would not understand the engineering behind a slingshot, much less an electronic catapult system.

He simply likes the sound of his own voice just a little bit too much. If he shut up more often it's likely his approval rating would be considerably higher, but he just can't help shooting himself in the foot every day with this stupid stuff that he says.

When rubber is stretched, it acts strangely.

VERY strangely....

Stretching rubber is governed by Rubber elasticity, where long-chain Elastomer polymers stretch up to 10 times their length. Unlike metals, rubber elasticity is driven by changes in entropy rather than bond stretching, releasing heat when pulled and absorbing it when released.

Pretty cool, I would say, this heating and cooling of rubber upon stretching and relaxing it.

FinChin67 Gold Member

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I would wait as the political direction is clear but the actual engineering and budget decision is still subject to the 60-day assessment.

Steam is cheaper and simpler if you already have the industrial base and ship design for it. EMALS costs more to develop and buy but was intended to save money and improve performance over a 50-year ship life. Forcing a switch on a ship already designed and partially built around EMALS is the most expensive option of all — likely measured in billions plus significant delay. Exact numbers for a full steam redesign of Doris Miller are not yet public; the 60-day Pentagon study ordered in August 2026 is supposed to produce them.

But it’s a perfect article and topic if Trump lives in your head rent-free and you need somewhere to vent.

Lacessit Star Member

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3 hours ago, FinChin67 said:



But it’s a perfect article and topic if Trump lives in your head rent-free and you need somewhere to vent.

"As expected. Trump-focused personal attacks, insults about intelligence, Epstein references, distractions, and sarcasm."

You were doing fairly well with your argument until you took that road yourself.

Tug Star Member

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13 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Seems it's you that knows nothing about the pro's and cons of both aircraft launching systems on carriers. As it stands 10 out of the 11 active carriers (Nimitz Class) use steam launching systems. Only the Gerald A. Ford uses EMALS. As I posted above steam is reliable and easily maintained.

You can put all the lipstick on that pig ya like it’s still going to be a pig.the unfortunate truth is trump is just using this as another source of outrage to get folks to stop thinking about the last one……personally I find that …..shall we say unproductive and quite expensive…..furthermore it seriously affects our readiness hella of a way to do business ehh?

Rams86 Gold Member

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On 8/14/2026 at 7:32 PM, scottiejohn said:

What a total Idiot!

He has no understanding regarding the take-off weights/acceleration/landing restrictions wrt to steam catapult launchers and arrestors of the pre Ford class vessels compared to today's requirements!

Being an outsider I just can't understand how he got the Replican nomination for President in the first place. It says a lot for the sanity of many Republicans who accepted his nomination. Surely the Republicans could've came up with another person. Even a person who's not that smart would've been much more capable than Trump. I'm not an American but I'm totally p*ssed off as Trump has made the cost of living very expensive in not only America but for the rest of the World.

gk10012001 Gold Member

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I worked on some early prototypes design and testing of the electronic catapults. Theoretically they are a really good idea, dial in launch forces, smoother G loadings etc. But they do use a lot of electricity. I defer to the current designs and reality as far as how fast the can be re-charged, launch again, etc. I would not be surprised that some people want more electrical power to be available for newer weapon systems?

JimGant Ruby Member

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....and hooking the steam system up to the toilet plumbing might fix the Ford-class clogged toilet problem. Just don't be sitting down when you flush.....

stevenl Star Member

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8 hours ago, FinChin67 said:

Almost no discussion of actual catapult performance data, reliability numbers, maintenance realities, or the engineering trade-offs. What a surprise.

Better reread the thread.

gamb00ler Ruby Member

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15 hours ago, JAG said:

For some it has been the indisputable arbiter of many discussions. You have blown that out of the water!

NO...he hasn't blown it out of the water! His post points out that one of the greatest weaknesses of AI is that if the queries given to it are poorly constructed the results are also poor. Trained researchers know how to create queries that yield much more informative results than lay people.

Mavideol Star Member

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things are not going his way, he keeps saying one thing and the evidence shows something else and based on his lying history I wouldn't believe one word out of his mouth

Trump's warship breaks down with sailors going four days without food, water and toilets

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/trump-s-warship-breaks-down-with-sailors-going-four-days-without-food-water-and-toilets/ar-AA2aoiMt?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6a850d0cceb94b45aa543eba50edbdcc&ei=16

Mavideol Star Member

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The loser keeps saying he is in control of the strait however Iran disagrees with that statement and for a country that had their army & navy obliterated and has been beaten very bad how can they be so defiant and be making such requests, these are not statements from a loosing country, it's correct that Iran control their "North passage" where barely no ship pass and the US appears (not confirmed) to control the "South passage" near Oman but again the grifter just threaten Oman an ally

Iran's top negotiator Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf says that the strategic Strait of Hormuz will not be opened until the United States meets Tehran's demands, including lifting a naval blockade.

An unidentified projectile damaged the ship's engine room and "resulted in a crew casualty" off the coast of Oman, the United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said on Tuesday, citing a report from the company's security office.

Strait of Hormuz to remain closed until US meets Iran's demands, top negotiator says

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/strait-of-hormuz-to-remain-closed-until-us-meets-iran-s-demands-top-negotiator-says/ar-AA2aoqo1?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=6a850d0cceb94b45aa543eba50edbdcc&ei=68

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