WHO Raises Alarm Over Growing Ebola Outbreak

If Ebola reaches the USA, nothing to fear, Kennedy is in control of Health.

16 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

If Ebola reaches the USA, nothing to fear, Kennedy is in control of Health.

Indee, the virus has nothing to fear.

And now Germany is good enough again to treat the Ebola-infected American doctor in the quarantine station of the Berlin Charité, one of the world's best clinics for research and treatment of the Ebola virus:

"US authorities have asked the German Government to help treat an Ebola patient in Uganda. Washington organizes the transport, then the US citizen is to be treated in Berlin".

The treatment in Germany will be better than in the USA. In Germany there is no Secretary of Health Kennedy.

They really are trying to kill us. Too many people on the planet. Elites will keep the viruses coming until we're down to 4 billion. Stay on your guard.

4 minutes ago, LALes said:

They really are trying to kill us. Too many people on the planet. Elites will keep the viruses coming until we're down to 4 billion. Stay on your guard.

Who are these elites? Name some names.

WEF, Bilderburg Group, Bill Gates, the Davos billionaire class. Nothing will ever be said publicly. The small group who really run the world. CCP also responsible for Covid leak. You want the ultimate conspiracy, this transcends polical parties and national boundaries. Pooh pooh at your own risk.

5 hours ago, LALes said:

WEF, Bilderburg Group, Bill Gates, the Davos billionaire class. Nothing will ever be said publicly. The small group who really run the world. CCP also responsible for Covid leak. You want the ultimate conspiracy, this transcends polical parties and national boundaries. Pooh pooh at your own risk.

Given my background and specialty, you'd probably count me as among that "elite" you are afraid of.

Your <deleted> ridiculous so-called theory is intellectually embarrassing.

It is what happens when people like you, who do not understand economics, government, science, logistics, or human nature try to compress the entire complexity of the modern world into a cartoon villain plot.

Apparently the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg Meeting, the Chinese Communist Party, billionaire philanthropists like Bill Gates, Western governments, pharmaceutical companies, banks, and rival intelligence services are all secretly cooperating in perfect harmony to depopulate the Earth.

These are groups that cannot agree on tariffs, climate policy, Taiwan, taxation, immigration, interest rates, semiconductor exports, or whose ambassador gets photographed standing where at a summit. But somehow they are flawlessly coordinating the largest mass-murder conspiracy in human history without credible evidence leaking from the millions of people who would need to be involved.

That is not skepticism. That is adolescent fan fiction for people who confuse YouTube algorithms with research.

The basic economics alone annihilates the theory.

Rich people need civilization to remain rich. Billionaires do not eat money. Their wealth depends on functioning markets, stable societies, workers, consumers, engineers, infrastructure, logistics, electricity grids, and supply chains. Cut the global population in half suddenly and you do not get a sleek technocratic paradise — you get economic collapse, food shortages, financial panic, political violence, and states falling apart.

The “elites” would be obliterating the very system that gives them power.

It is the equivalent of claiming airline executives secretly want to blow up airports.

And the secrecy argument is laughable.

Real conspiracies leak constantly. The Watergate scandal leaked. Intelligence operations leak.

Military plans leak. Corporate fraud leaks. Private messages leak. Celebrity affairs leak.

Government surveillance leaked. Entire wars have been exposed by low-level analysts with USB sticks.

Yet we are expected to believe that a plan to murder four billion people — requiring coordination between scientists, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, militaries, bureaucracies, laboratories, and governments across hostile nations — has remained hidden except for grainy podcasts, Facebook memes, and men staring intensely into webcams.

Convenient.

And notice how these theories always work psychologically.

Every piece of evidence against them becomes evidence for them.

No proof? “That proves how powerful they are.”
Contradictions? “Disinformation.”
Rival countries fighting? “Controlled opposition.”
Failed predictions? “The plan changed.”

It is a closed belief system. A secular apocalypse cult wearing the aesthetic of politics.

And its believers flatter themselves constantly. They imagine they are among the tiny band of awakened intellectual rebels who “see through the lies,” while billions of ordinary people — including scientists, doctors, engineers, intelligence analysts, and researchers — are supposedly sheep.

In reality, many conspiracy theories survive because they make people feel important. They turn confusion into certainty and ignorance into hidden wisdom. It is psychologically easier to believe in an all-powerful evil mastermind than to accept that the world is mostly driven by messy incentives, incompetence, competing interests, bureaucratic failure, and chaos.

Reality is untidy.

Conspiracy fantasies are emotionally satisfying.

That is why these narratives resemble religion more than analysis:

• hidden evil forces,

• secret knowledge,

• prophecies,

• heretics,

• revelations,

• apocalyptic transformation.

The only thing missing is robes and candles.

And the final irony is this: people who claim to distrust propaganda often end up consuming industrial quantities of it. They sneer at “mainstream narratives” while uncritically swallowing stories that would make a mediocre thriller writer ask for revisions.

The world absolutely contains corruption, lobbying, greed, manipulation, and elite influence. None of that is controversial.

But “powerful people exist” is not evidence for “a unified cabal is engineering viruses to reduce humanity to four billion.”

That leap is not courageous skepticism.

It is gullibility dressed up as rebellion.

Is it a coincidence that the Dems need more mail in voting. Like in 2020?

I think not...

They learned their lesson in 2024.

12 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

Given my background and specialty, you'd probably count me as among that "elite" you are afraid of.

Your <deleted> ridiculous so-called theory is intellectually embarrassing.

It is what happens when people like you, who do not understand economics, government, science, logistics, or human nature try to compress the entire complexity of the modern world into a cartoon villain plot.

Apparently the World Economic Forum, the Bilderberg Meeting, the Chinese Communist Party, billionaire philanthropists like Bill Gates, Western governments, pharmaceutical companies, banks, and rival intelligence services are all secretly cooperating in perfect harmony to depopulate the Earth.

These are groups that cannot agree on tariffs, climate policy, Taiwan, taxation, immigration, interest rates, semiconductor exports, or whose ambassador gets photographed standing where at a summit. But somehow they are flawlessly coordinating the largest mass-murder conspiracy in human history without credible evidence leaking from the millions of people who would need to be involved.

That is not skepticism. That is adolescent fan fiction for people who confuse YouTube algorithms with research.

The basic economics alone annihilates the theory.

Rich people need civilization to remain rich. Billionaires do not eat money. Their wealth depends on functioning markets, stable societies, workers, consumers, engineers, infrastructure, logistics, electricity grids, and supply chains. Cut the global population in half suddenly and you do not get a sleek technocratic paradise — you get economic collapse, food shortages, financial panic, political violence, and states falling apart.

The “elites” would be obliterating the very system that gives them power.

It is the equivalent of claiming airline executives secretly want to blow up airports.

And the secrecy argument is laughable.

Real conspiracies leak constantly. The Watergate scandal leaked. Intelligence operations leak.

Military plans leak. Corporate fraud leaks. Private messages leak. Celebrity affairs leak.

Government surveillance leaked. Entire wars have been exposed by low-level analysts with USB sticks.

Yet we are expected to believe that a plan to murder four billion people — requiring coordination between scientists, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, militaries, bureaucracies, laboratories, and governments across hostile nations — has remained hidden except for grainy podcasts, Facebook memes, and men staring intensely into webcams.

Convenient.

And notice how these theories always work psychologically.

Every piece of evidence against them becomes evidence for them.

No proof? “That proves how powerful they are.”
Contradictions? “Disinformation.”
Rival countries fighting? “Controlled opposition.”
Failed predictions? “The plan changed.”

It is a closed belief system. A secular apocalypse cult wearing the aesthetic of politics.

And its believers flatter themselves constantly. They imagine they are among the tiny band of awakened intellectual rebels who “see through the lies,” while billions of ordinary people — including scientists, doctors, engineers, intelligence analysts, and researchers — are supposedly sheep.

In reality, many conspiracy theories survive because they make people feel important. They turn confusion into certainty and ignorance into hidden wisdom. It is psychologically easier to believe in an all-powerful evil mastermind than to accept that the world is mostly driven by messy incentives, incompetence, competing interests, bureaucratic failure, and chaos.

Reality is untidy.

Conspiracy fantasies are emotionally satisfying.

That is why these narratives resemble religion more than analysis:

• hidden evil forces,

• secret knowledge,

• prophecies,

• heretics,

• revelations,

• apocalyptic transformation.

The only thing missing is robes and candles.

And the final irony is this: people who claim to distrust propaganda often end up consuming industrial quantities of it. They sneer at “mainstream narratives” while uncritically swallowing stories that would make a mediocre thriller writer ask for revisions.

The world absolutely contains corruption, lobbying, greed, manipulation, and elite influence. None of that is controversial.

But “powerful people exist” is not evidence for “a unified cabal is engineering viruses to reduce humanity to four billion.”

That leap is not courageous skepticism.

It is gullibility dressed up as rebellion.

Thanks for prefacing your remarks with the fact that you qualify as "elite".

We are now suitably impressed to believe anything you say. No true elite

would EVER disclose the fact. Your carefully worded rebuttal turns out to

be just another voice in the night screaming "conspiracy theory". What are

your sources for news, O mighty one?

10 hours ago, LALes said:

Thanks for prefacing your remarks with the fact that you qualify as "elite".

We are now suitably impressed to believe anything you say. No true elite

would EVER disclose the fact. Your carefully worded rebuttal turns out to

be just another voice in the night screaming "conspiracy theory". What are

your sources for news, O mighty one?

Me? I work in the field for the last 35 years. Glad you are <deleted> impressed. My mission is complete. You apparently speak on behalf of others, your followers. Don't forget your meds.

Not sure what it is about you Apple Mac freaks, always dissing Microsoft.

To me, the bigger picture is how the world hasn't learned enough from the last pandemic - or memories are just short.

The fact this deadly Ebola strain was circulating unreported for weeks speaks volumes about the health authorities in a country that has dealt with Ebola countless times. Also did the WHO have its eye on the ball with independent monitoring there - an established base, or just relying on DRC officials to monitor and report?

The second thing involves the handling of the hanta virus. To disembark all the passengers and then send them to a dozen different countries - some of which are worse (less experienced) than others at quarantine protocols and health checks - almost beggars belief.

Washing up soon, undocumented, to a beach near you.

#refugeeswelcome

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

To me, the bigger picture is how the world hasn't learned enough from the last pandemic - or memories are just short.

The fact this deadly Ebola strain was circulating unreported for weeks speaks volumes about the health authorities in a country that has dealt with Ebola countless times. Also did the WHO have its eye on the ball with independent monitoring there - an established base, or just relying on DRC officials to monitor and report?

The second thing involves the handling of the hanta virus. To disembark all the passengers and then send them to a dozen different countries - some of which are worse (less experienced) than others at quarantine protocols and health checks - almost beggars belief.

USAID used to be the "First Responders" to these outbreaks. Once this wretched US administration has been removed, I firmly believe they will be reinstated. Until then, we can only hunker down and wait this nonsense out.

On 5/20/2026 at 8:08 AM, JimHuaHin said:

If Ebola reaches the USA, nothing to fear, Kennedy is in control of Health.

A plane traveling to Detroit was diverted to Canada after a traveler from the Ebola-hit Democratic Republic of the Congo boarded the plane in error.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesperson revealed that after learning an Air France flight had a passenger from the Congo, they immediately ordered the flight to be diverted from the Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County Airport to the Montreal Trudeau International Airport.

Let those French speaking cheese eaters handle Air France's mistake letting the passenger board.

Detroit Bound Flight Diverts to Canada After Traveler from Ebola-impacted Region Boards in Error | The Gateway Pundit | by Anthony Scott

On 5/20/2026 at 3:08 PM, LALes said:

WEF, Bilderburg Group, Bill Gates, the Davos billionaire class. Nothing will ever be said publicly. The small group who really run the world. CCP also responsible for Covid leak. You want the ultimate conspiracy, this transcends polical parties and national boundaries. Pooh pooh at your own risk.

Soros! You forgot to mention Soros! 🤣

On 5/21/2026 at 3:52 AM, impulse said:

Is it a coincidence that the Dems need more mail in voting. Like in 2020?

I think not...

They learned their lesson in 2024.

Is it a coincidence that this thread is polluted by ridiculous conspiracy theories? 😂

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

USAID used to be the "First Responders" to these outbreaks. Once this wretched US administration has been removed, I firmly believe they will be reinstated. Until then, we can only hunker down and wait this nonsense out.

On top of it, the US has withdrawn from the WHO, which is operating now with a lower budget.

5 minutes ago, candide said:

On top of it, the US has withdrawn from the WHO, which is operating now with a lower budget.

Yes I heard Tedros had to downgrade from a Bentley to a Benz.

In fact he's so skint he's started using Rachel Markle for speeches. 😄

1 hour ago, candide said:

Is it a coincidence that this thread is polluted by ridiculous conspiracy theories? 😂

You enjoy the next 2-1/2 years anyway.

6 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

To me, the bigger picture is how the world hasn't learned enough from the last pandemic - or memories are just short.

The fact this deadly Ebola strain was circulating unreported for weeks speaks volumes about the health authorities in a country that has dealt with Ebola countless times. Also did the WHO have its eye on the ball with independent monitoring there - an established base, or just relying on DRC officials to monitor and report?

None of that is true. Monitoring of Ebola outbreaks has never been interupted.

However, testing rates are an extreme challenge. 10 years during the last big outbreak, the combined efforts of the US/British/French/German/South African/Russian and Chinese militaries really struggled to cope with diagnostic testing capacity/

The USMC took over a biotech insitute in Liberia, and were barely able to carry out more than 100 Ebola tests a week, using military kit, primarily because the road infrastructure is so poor, they had to air lift in the diesel. With the number of people deployed, to feed, to keep cool, that meant lab freezer capacity was severely limited.

The DRC are saying they are maxed out at 6 tests per day. The WHO deploy field labs in the region. And when you talk about field labs, these really are field labs. They will take over an abandoned warehouse or somethign, get fold out tables, set up the inlatable BSL4 enclosures and run the Smartcyclers inside.

Civvies like you just don't realise how difficult it is to detect this virus. Initial symptoms present as flu like. There is no reliable antigen test. By the time you can do serology testing, the patient is dead, or infected others. Symptoms are much like the 100 other filoviruses in the region. There are only 2 FDA approved Ebola tests on the market, one of which is basically a US military test. All the testing is pretty much based on little more than a semi-commerical LDT kit. When you run these Smartcycles, you don't get a yes/no answer. You get an amplification curve, that the lab worker must then interpret. These machinese are basically the sames as what you will find in a research lab. PCR can screw up for lots of reasons; operator error, machine error, reagent contamination, sample contramination. The operators need to recognise false positives and false negatives.

During the Liberia-Sierra Leone crisis, a well known Sierra Leone surgeon fell ill. He was convinced it was Ebola. Went to the Chinese Army mobile lab. And they said no. repeated testing, no. Finally he went to the South Africans; yes, positive. Likely his titer was up by then allowing for detection by their threshold. His church did a whip around, to get the money to evacuate him to the US for treatment. He died in the US. It was too late for him.

Sadly, the current state of diagnostics technology, the limited financial resources and the poor infrastructure in the region (and the DRC is HUGE, there are places which are properly remote, and with all the money in the world, will stay properly remote), means that Ebola diagnostics will always remain problematic. Frankly not enough people die of it, and they die in the wrong place, for the diagnostic companies to become commercially interested. What worked for COVID-19 doesn't necessarily translate to a different virus.

Disease surveillance is typically through syndromic surveilland, a concept created by the French and British militaries, first tried out in French Guyana to detect an Anthrax outbrek, and then deployed to the Gulf by the British in GW1, with mixed success it has to be said. In a way, syndromic surveillance was used in 1968-69 by the British to detect Hong Kong flu, and help mitigate its impacts.

In the 50s and 60s, the British monitored Chinese radio and newsprints, and picked up reports of a flu outbreak in the Canton region; people were talking abut , people getting sick, going to the doctors.

60 years on, Promed does the same sort of thing, but on a vastly bigger scale thanks to scraping technologies. They monitor reporting in the DRC not of doctors reporting Ebola, but Doctors reporting symptoms. Cluster analysis allows mapping of outbreaks, and then a warroom of essentially doctors determines what the symptoms are consistant with. Promed allows crowd sourcing diagnostics. It does work. Syndromic surveillance picked up COVID before tests existed.

In the last big outbreak, the WHO was expecting 10,000 cases a week (seems small beer now compared to COVID-19), 1400 a day. For a normal diagnostic test, driven by symptoms, you would expect about 60% of tests to be negative. So its not 1400 tests a day, it's 2,300 a day. And more than that, because if you had a positive, you likely want a retest (there are reasons why PCR, the usual modality, is a good confirmatory test, but a rubbish diagnostic, but its the best we've got at the moment). So call it 3,500 tests a day (not all cases will need retest). At the time, the combined effort of the entire world could manage maybe 200-300 tests a day.

If you scaled up for screening, that means likely 90-95% of tests are negative. You see where the numbers are heading to.

Post COVID, I thought, professionally, that the Lighthouse-type labs set up around the world, would be a worthwhile legacy (Lighthouse labs were massive warehouse type places, with lots of automated liquid handling robots, able to carry out PCR at scale) from the Pandemic (every Pandemic in the modern era has left a positive impact on medicine; 1918 flu created concepts about PPE and distancing, Polio caused Intensive Care medicine to be invented, 1957 flu saw labs identify strains during a outbreak). But after COVID, rather than being mothballed on low maintenance, those labs were basically scrapped, the kit thrown on the proverbial tip, the trained staff dispersed. The news that the DRC still has limited testing capacity, based around exactly the same machines of 10+ years ago, is dispiriting. THe WHO isn't a thing; its a collaboration of the world's healthcare systems. If the WHO fails, its because those countries have failed.

I mentioned FDA tests, and the US military in Liberia. When the US deployed, they used their JBAIDS system. This is military kit, only used by the military. Because there were US citizens in Liberia, uniquely, the US military had to get that test FDA approved, by submitting testing data. It revealed many years of testing with first synthetic Ebola, then inactivated wild type Ebola and then live agent testing across multiple strains obtained from god knows where. None of the other militaries put their tests up for scrutiny, for obvious reasons.

Ebola has been considered a potential BW agent for decades. But two accidents in the US and USSR illustrated a difference in emphasis. An American labworker suffered a Hollywood style needle stick injury. She was well treated, and nursed back to health. Everyone was interested in her health. In the USSR, a lab worker suffered a similar injury. He was locked in a containment room, with a diary, and told to think of Mother Russia, and make sure he got his thoughts down. In the USSR, all BW scientists were first trained medical doctors, and then co-opted into the programme through deception. Ken Alibek, an Uzbek, defected, and explained the process. He was told he would be researching the treatment of Plague, identifying new antibiotics, because Yersinia pestis is actually a problem them. But he soon twigged when they got him to work on antibiotic resistant strains......

In the end, the previous Ebola outbreak just burnt itself out. It was never controlled, because they could never identify all the cases. Its virulance and lethality limited the spread. The same will happen this time around. Lots of African people will died, people like you will start shatting themselves, then it will "go away" and you'll lose interest.

Well!!

This has Bill Gates sticky fingers all over it....not only is there no such thing as Ebola....how can there be there are no such things as pathogens?.........these all look like Alex Jones disaster actors to me.

And the US doctor just about to die? Now he says he's on the mend.....it all stinks of corruption by big pharam.

1 hour ago, Roadsternut said:

None of that is true. Monitoring of Ebola outbreaks has never been interupted.

I didn't say testing had been interupted. I said the outbreak and its spread went unreported for too long. And I'm not a 'Civvie' by the way.

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

I didn't say testing had been interupted. I said the outbreak and its spread went unreported for too long. And I'm not a 'Civvie' by the way.

So you are also an infectious disease expert. Where were you, F or G Squadron? You remember Ollie?

The outbreak was not "unreported". Since you are not a "civvie" in this context then you will full know that the Ebola PCR tests are strain specific, and then in order to detect an outbreak, you need the right set of primers for, in this case, the Bundibugyo strain rather than wild type Ebola and Sudan.

You were blaming the WHO, when all along you were knowing the real reason the strain was not picked up. And thats mainly due to a 70% shortfall in funding for a lab, resulting it it not being able to perform Reference Lab duties. As a microbiologist, you would know all about the importance of reference labs in strain surveillance.

Briefly, for the benefit of the civvies on this thread, when you get a blood test, say for a STD, you are not tested against all the possible strains, because that would be stupid when per strain testing is $100 or so in reagents. You are tested against the strains known to be in circulation, indicated by the reference lab. The Reference Lab is able to detect strain shifts through randomised testing of samples. No one on this god given Earth has the resources to analyse every bood sample received for every strain of virus or bacterium known. You use sampling, and use probability to assess the chances of missing a shift in serology.

ronnie50 is being disengenious, by saying he's not a "civvie" in the context of this discussion, which was a serving or former operator from one of the CBRNE units of the sort that were deployed to Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone in 2014, which I referenced. When he criticises the WHO, he knows exactly what is going on when he said that.

2 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Well!!

This has Bill Gates sticky fingers all over it....not only is there no such thing as Ebola....how can there be there are no such things as pathogens?.........these all look like Alex Jones disaster actors to me.

And the US doctor just about to die? Now he says he's on the mend.....it all stinks of corruption by big pharam.

What the giddigy <deleted> is "big pharam"

I reckon iPhones spread diseases like sneezes.

12 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

Briefly, for the benefit of the civvies on this thread

You really need to get over yourself. Or get some help. Or both.