Brit, 32, dies in Thailand days before wedding after crash

NB The 10,000 GBP JustGiving request for body repatriation has reached over 11,000 GBP.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by JerryM

11 minutes ago, Mr Awesome said:

This is sad news. RIP.

Yes, tragic. Motorcycles dangerous on the islands.

Edited August 3Aug 3 by jacko45k

Just now, SingAPorn said:

Very tragic once again.

When will the UK government ban it's own to travel without proper travel health or accident insurance ? Because at this rate of all the gofundme's for the brits, at one point countries will ban them from entry if they cannot prove having adequate insurance, like most of the west europeans have compulsory by law. I would think that the best insured and often even over-insured would be the citizens from Switzerland.

Reality is there is not enough cost to the UK government to justify forcing insurance, more so it is on the hosting countries, and the success of goFundMe efforts seems to make that redundant. In this case it is more about the quality of the treatment that perhaps failed to check for more serious injury.,,

1 hour ago, SingAPorn said:

Very tragic once again.

When will the UK government ban it's own to travel without proper travel health or accident insurance ? Because at this rate of all the gofundme's for the brits, at one point countries will ban them from entry if they cannot prove having adequate insurance, like most of the west europeans have compulsory by law. I would think that the best insured and often even over-insured would be the citizens from Switzerland.

Yes, I agree 💯. But I'm afraid the dumbness will not stop, more increasing. Look around and you will see it.

7 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

All places have dangerous roads. It's not so much the roads as it is the inexperience of the motorbike drivers, often not wearing helmets.

Experienced over confident drivers as well.

9 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

Obstacles and hazards can be avoided with diligent defensive safe driving. People on bikes fail to be fully aware of how vulnerable they are to others' mistakes, or when they take chances. So sad.

Speeding is a real killer. Every time whenever in the city see careless, mostly farangs (per capita by far) risking life and limb just to gain a car length just to stop fifty meters ahead or going nowhere fast, utmost epitome of stupid on the road.

Just now, novacova said:

Experienced over confident drivers as well.

Speeding is a real killer. Every time whenever in the city see careless, mostly farangs (per capita by far) risking life and limb just to gain a car length just to stop fifty meters ahead or going nowhere fast, utmost epitome of stupid on the road.

Entirely relative, anyone with a actual big bike license knows there is places where you can enjoy that speed, and where you do the opposite. That is more the issue aside from actual people violating traffic rules, causing issues for people that drive a bike with less experience.

In for example samui the speed limit is even 75-80kmph in the ring road, it is dangerous to not follow the flow of traffic and that's about the cap of a 115cc. Also you do not need to drive fast to get a very bad accident, it just depends how you get hit and land. Seen bad at 35kmph.

This is also the issue with capping the CC on bikes due to the mountains / hills, you need it to be able and drive up. If someone were to invent a smart CC cap sensor, it would sure be a hit. In theory not that hard, it could detect the level of the bike. But This is Thailand.

Also most accidents happen due to cars and minivans or trucks sandwiching them, or pushing them to go faster or out of the way where they then get stuck or hit a pothole / slippery or sandy parts etc etc. Cars either drive way too slow or way too fast in Thailand.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by sunrisecoconuts

1 minute ago, hanbla said:

Here we go again. No helmet. No insurance. GoFundMe.

Not wearing helmet. Head injuries and they're saying that he got inadequate treatment. What? Inadequate health care in Thailand? They've probably never been here, they don't know what they're talking about. But Thailand's excellent health care had of course problem to safe life of another ignorant moron driving motorcycle without helmet, as every other health care would have.

No insurance, when would people understand they need insurance, always. Gofundme beggars.

The ''cheap'' full face helmets for around 2-4K baht prevent already 85% more but as long they not force people to use those on 115CC + bikes or any bikes, nothing changes. Instead they allow german nazi helmets from plastic, which actually turn into knives that puncture the skull on accidents. Most landings are also frontal (chin / nose first), not head first.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by sunrisecoconuts

2 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

Sad story, but wearing helmets??? If he had a helmet, maybe he was still alive. Everybody knows also in the UK and the rest of the world. and Thailand has very very dangerous roads.

Maybe. Helmets reduce deaths by about 40%. But if he was in a car with his seat belts fastened, it's about 100%

Tragic data point. My condolences to his loved ones.

8 minutes ago, sunrisecoconuts said:

The ''cheap'' full face helmets for around 2-4K baht prevent already 85% more but as long they not force people to use those on 115CC + bikes or any bikes, nothing changes. Instead they allow german nazi helmets from plastic, which actually turn into knives that puncture the skull on accidents. Most landings are also frontal (chin / nose first), not head first.

Agree, but we don't know if he was wearing a helmet or not. I assume he didn't wear any.

Just now, hanbla said:

Agree, but we don't know if he was wearing a helmet or not. I assume he didn't wear any.

I almost never ever see anyone wear a full face helmet except when it is an actual big sportsbike or ducati etc. Just maybe 10% wearing those 400-500 baht ones from Big C that are full face but too weak too. Still better already for minor falls; full face should be mandatory.

I would literally have died twice already, without mine. That over 15 years daily driving in Thailand. Aside of 100+ close calls.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by sunrisecoconuts

Brits are obviously not well traveled so they require a risk assessment. Instead of banning them outright after reading all these sad stories about Brits and their misfortunes in Thailand, i think the UK government should put in place some sort of bilateral agreement with Thailand. Just check into a public hospital, bring your NHS certificate and you are all set.

Edited August 4Aug 4 by Celsius

23 minutes ago, sunrisecoconuts said:

Also you do not need to drive fast to get a very bad accident, it just depends how you get hit and land. Seen bad at 35kmph.

15 20 kmph no helmet can kill. But we are invincible and since nothing happened the last time nothing is going to happen this next time until it does but by then it’s too late anyway.

44 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Again a Brit, who didn't know the danger riding a bike in Thailand,.

Again a British family trying to make money out of this fatal accident!

He planned his life here in Thailand. His place would be here, not in UK.

Give the money to his Thai wife to be instead

Yeah, if it is a Brit or not has really no relevance here. First, it looks like the guy was driving without a helmet, which is plain stupidity! However, dying at 32 is very tragic and sad.

What I fail to understand, though. The guy was planning to marry a Thai woman. Euther bring her to live in the UK or live together in Thailand. That has also no relevance. What has, is that it seems like he was flying on fluffy clouds. All that he wanted to do, will cost some money. So, why the need for a Go Fund me page? The money must be there, or he was just another guy thinking that no planning needed, I am hopelessly in love, and I just do and sort the problem out later. I just don´t get things like this!

Edited August 4Aug 4 by Gottfrid